IseWolf22 said:

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An area like yours is probably not a high priority to add new high density housing with the Affirmative Fair Housing Plan. They are targeting areas like mine. Imagine if those filling these units were people that were newly appointed citizens, under the Left's new infrastructure bill, and they were living off of programs from this same bill. Now you have lots of new neighbors, not contributing to the local tax revenue, and also living in housing they did nothing to earn, but were given. How do you think that would look?

I'm not okay with the government choosing my neighborhood. I'd be surprised if you were okay with it.

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Mandated single family zoning IS the government choosing neighborhoods. Up zoning is far more in line with free market development than the status quo. For older neighborhoods, these zoning decisions are often decades old and any attempt to change them is met with fierce resistance from entrenched interests (the residents). If someone wants to sell their land to a developer who wants to make a condo or duplex, why are we using government to block that. That homeowner has more valuable land if it can be used for more purposes.

Also, maybe we are reading different articles, but from what I've seen the entire point is to focus on density in places like Civ's neighborhood, not yours. Basically suburbs that were built decades ago and have since been integrated into the ever expanding city. At some point those neighborhoods should be able to densify, or increasingly valuable land is being blocked from development.

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Not by the Federal Mafia!!! As I have stated a number of times, the Cities, Counties, and States need to quit taking funding from the Federal Government Mafia!

Use your tax revenue wisely and quit relying on the Mafia!!!

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caryking said:

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Folks, we can't afford the Iron Dome spending as well as anything more that the Dems are proposing!

I'll say it again: we have a One Trillion Dollar deficit right now!!! The debt ceiling needs to be increased just to allow us to try and fund this One Trillion Dollars!!! So, let this run the next Ten Years and that's Ten Trillion Dollars that needs to be funded!!!

Remember this, NOBODY is going to buy our bonds! That means, they will try and get the Treasury to print more money and have the Federal Reserve place it on the balance sheet!

Anytime you hear anyone, in the pathetic media, say we are at risk of killing the full faith and credit of the US, that is YOU, ME, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN. They will ask us to pay this back via raising taxes for all!!!!

This country is BROKE!!!! Spending, by both parties, has caused this! It's time to call your representatives (I have) and tell them to vote NO on any new spending, vote NO on a continuing resolution, vote NO on increasing the debt limit!

It's time for all of us to buckle up our belts and TELL our Representatives to cut spending significantly!!!!

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Cary -- this isn't meant to be confrontational, but I'm curious where you think we should cut to balance the budget?

I've played around with those online calculators before and, man, it'll be painful. Do you see any new revenue sources as part of this?

And I agree -- fully -- that the debt is unsustainable and we've got to find a way to get out of this spiral.

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Entitlements have to be focus #1, Not because they are currently the largest driver of debt, but because of the absolutely massive projected shortfalls over the next 50 years as our population ages. It'd be great to change SS to a form of mandated, private 401k (I don't like mandating it, but it will never pass otherwise).

We need to look for ways to reduce the military budget without harming our defensive capabilities. That means looking for waste in the contracting process, as well as a reduction in being the world police.

Domestic, discretionary spending can be reduced by consolidation of various agencies. Entire cabinet positions could be abolished with key functions being rolled into another area. We have way too much sprawl, redundancy, and overlapping missions and it's not efficient.

On taxation, we do need to change the current tax structure. Move to more consumption and sin taxes. If we had a VAT, we could reduce income taxes and eliminate corporate taxes. In general I'd be more amenable to raising revenue if we were committed to putting surpluses into debt reduction, but the cynic in me says it will just be spent elsewhere

IseWolf22 said:

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packwest said:

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caryking said:

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Folks, we can't afford the Iron Dome spending as well as anything more that the Dems are proposing!

I'll say it again: we have a One Trillion Dollar deficit right now!!! The debt ceiling needs to be increased just to allow us to try and fund this One Trillion Dollars!!! So, let this run the next Ten Years and that's Ten Trillion Dollars that needs to be funded!!!

Remember this, NOBODY is going to buy our bonds! That means, they will try and get the Treasury to print more money and have the Federal Reserve place it on the balance sheet!

Anytime you hear anyone, in the pathetic media, say we are at risk of killing the full faith and credit of the US, that is YOU, ME, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN. They will ask us to pay this back via raising taxes for all!!!!

This country is BROKE!!!! Spending, by both parties, has caused this! It's time to call your representatives (I have) and tell them to vote NO on any new spending, vote NO on a continuing resolution, vote NO on increasing the debt limit!

It's time for all of us to buckle up our belts and TELL our Representatives to cut spending significantly!!!!

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Cary -- this isn't meant to be confrontational, but I'm curious where you think we should cut to balance the budget?

I've played around with those online calculators before and, man, it'll be painful. Do you see any new revenue sources as part of this?

And I agree -- fully -- that the debt is unsustainable and we've got to find a way to get out of this spiral.

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Entitlements have to be focus #1, Not because they are currently the largest driver of debt, but because of the absolutely massive projected shortfalls over the next 50 years as our population ages. It'd be great to change SS to a form of mandated, private 401k (I don't like mandating it, but it will never pass otherwise).

We need to look for ways to reduce the military budget without harming our defensive capabilities. That means looking for waste in the contracting process, as well as a reduction in being the world police.

Domestic, discretionary spending can be reduced by consolidation of various agencies. Entire cabinet positions could be abolished with key functions being rolled into another area. We have way too much sprawl, redundancy, and overlapping missions and it's not efficient.

On taxation, we do need to change the current tax structure. Move to more consumption and sin taxes. If we had a VAT, we could reduce income taxes and eliminate corporate taxes. In general I'd be more amenable to raising revenue if we were committed to putting surpluses into debt reduction, but the cynic in me says it will just be spent elsewhere

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Building off of this bolded part, I think you could combine various welfare and social programs too. I believe it was Utah (or somewhere else) that experimented with this consolidation and saw (a) tremendous savings and (b) increase in benefits being used as intended.

You have six different bureaucracies handling six different programs -- each with overlap.

That won't solve the whole deficit, but it's a big piece of it.

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Actually I'm not proud of abortion up the point of birth and my knowledge it's never happened. I am supportive of a women's right to choose as I am a mans or any humans right to choose . I pray they choose adoption. And I never tried to register people to vote Democrat. I just registered people to vote. No your narrative is once again shot down. I am not registered as a Democrat. I am unaffiliated. I vote for the best candidate period fo back and look at my previous post. I voted republican just as much as Democrat. I'm currently helping Donnie Harrison, a republican raise money to get re-elected as wake county sheriff.

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I think Donnie is a good guy!

Donnie is a good man and he was a good sheriff. Also support Steve troxler another republican

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Donnie is a good man and he was a good sheriff. Also support Steve troxler another republican

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Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors... and bowling, and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo.

He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Donny.

Donny, who loved bowling.

And so, Theodore Donald Karabotsos, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes might well have been, we commit your final mortal remains to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well.

Good night, sweet prince

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Hokie, what the hell are you talking about?

caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Glasswolf said:

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Donnie is a good man and he was a good sheriff. Also support Steve troxler another republican

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Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors... and bowling, and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo.

He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Donny.

Donny, who loved bowling.

And so, Theodore Donald Karabotsos, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes might well have been, we commit your final mortal remains to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well.

Good night, sweet prince

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Hokie, what the hell are you talking about?

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I'm glad I wasn't the only one wondering wth he's talking about

You gonna tell 'em?

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You gonna tell 'em?

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I don't think I've seen that movie in its entirety. That's why I didn't pick-up on your reference...

packwest said:

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IseWolf22 said:

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packwest said:

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caryking said:

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Folks, we can't afford the Iron Dome spending as well as anything more that the Dems are proposing!

I'll say it again: we have a One Trillion Dollar deficit right now!!! The debt ceiling needs to be increased just to allow us to try and fund this One Trillion Dollars!!! So, let this run the next Ten Years and that's Ten Trillion Dollars that needs to be funded!!!

Remember this, NOBODY is going to buy our bonds! That means, they will try and get the Treasury to print more money and have the Federal Reserve place it on the balance sheet!

Anytime you hear anyone, in the pathetic media, say we are at risk of killing the full faith and credit of the US, that is YOU, ME, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN. They will ask us to pay this back via raising taxes for all!!!!

This country is BROKE!!!! Spending, by both parties, has caused this! It's time to call your representatives (I have) and tell them to vote NO on any new spending, vote NO on a continuing resolution, vote NO on increasing the debt limit!

It's time for all of us to buckle up our belts and TELL our Representatives to cut spending significantly!!!!

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Cary -- this isn't meant to be confrontational, but I'm curious where you think we should cut to balance the budget?

I've played around with those online calculators before and, man, it'll be painful. Do you see any new revenue sources as part of this?

And I agree -- fully -- that the debt is unsustainable and we've got to find a way to get out of this spiral.

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Entitlements have to be focus #1, Not because they are currently the largest driver of debt, but because of the absolutely massive projected shortfalls over the next 50 years as our population ages. It'd be great to change SS to a form of mandated, private 401k (I don't like mandating it, but it will never pass otherwise).

We need to look for ways to reduce the military budget without harming our defensive capabilities. That means looking for waste in the contracting process, as well as a reduction in being the world police.

Domestic, discretionary spending can be reduced by consolidation of various agencies. Entire cabinet positions could be abolished with key functions being rolled into another area. We have way too much sprawl, redundancy, and overlapping missions and it's not efficient.

On taxation, we do need to change the current tax structure. Move to more consumption and sin taxes. If we had a VAT, we could reduce income taxes and eliminate corporate taxes. In general I'd be more amenable to raising revenue if we were committed to putting surpluses into debt reduction, but the cynic in me says it will just be spent elsewhere

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Building off of this bolded part, I think you could combine various welfare and social programs too. I believe it was Utah (or somewhere else) that experimented with this consolidation and saw (a) tremendous savings and (b) increase in benefits being used as intended.

You have six different bureaucracies handling six different programs -- each with overlap.

That won't solve the whole deficit, but it's a big piece of it.

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Who would give up your Social Security retirement benefit in order to stop the program?

Example: If you are under the age of 60 (or any age), as of a certain date, you would not receive Social Security at retirement. We moderate the payments for those that will receive Social Security and balance the program, then, shut it DOWN for everyone else!!! Its a bad Ponzi scheme, at best!

I'm onboard!

packwest said:

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IseWolf22 said:

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packwest said:

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caryking said:

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Folks, we can't afford the Iron Dome spending as well as anything more that the Dems are proposing!

I'll say it again: we have a One Trillion Dollar deficit right now!!! The debt ceiling needs to be increased just to allow us to try and fund this One Trillion Dollars!!! So, let this run the next Ten Years and that's Ten Trillion Dollars that needs to be funded!!!

Remember this, NOBODY is going to buy our bonds! That means, they will try and get the Treasury to print more money and have the Federal Reserve place it on the balance sheet!

Anytime you hear anyone, in the pathetic media, say we are at risk of killing the full faith and credit of the US, that is YOU, ME, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN. They will ask us to pay this back via raising taxes for all!!!!

This country is BROKE!!!! Spending, by both parties, has caused this! It's time to call your representatives (I have) and tell them to vote NO on any new spending, vote NO on a continuing resolution, vote NO on increasing the debt limit!

It's time for all of us to buckle up our belts and TELL our Representatives to cut spending significantly!!!!

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Cary -- this isn't meant to be confrontational, but I'm curious where you think we should cut to balance the budget?

I've played around with those online calculators before and, man, it'll be painful. Do you see any new revenue sources as part of this?

And I agree -- fully -- that the debt is unsustainable and we've got to find a way to get out of this spiral.

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Entitlements have to be focus #1, Not because they are currently the largest driver of debt, but because of the absolutely massive projected shortfalls over the next 50 years as our population ages. It'd be great to change SS to a form of mandated, private 401k (I don't like mandating it, but it will never pass otherwise).

We need to look for ways to reduce the military budget without harming our defensive capabilities. That means looking for waste in the contracting process, as well as a reduction in being the world police.

Domestic, discretionary spending can be reduced by consolidation of various agencies. Entire cabinet positions could be abolished with key functions being rolled into another area. We have way too much sprawl, redundancy, and overlapping missions and it's not efficient.

On taxation, we do need to change the current tax structure. Move to more consumption and sin taxes. If we had a VAT, we could reduce income taxes and eliminate corporate taxes. In general I'd be more amenable to raising revenue if we were committed to putting surpluses into debt reduction, but the cynic in me says it will just be spent elsewhere

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Building off of this bolded part, I think you could combine various welfare and social programs too. I believe it was Utah (or somewhere else) that experimented with this consolidation and saw (a) tremendous savings and (b) increase in benefits being used as intended.

You have six different bureaucracies handling six different programs -- each with overlap.

That won't solve the whole deficit, but it's a big piece of it.

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Definitely. If we are going to have welfare, it should all be run from a single agency with straightforward rules and qualifications. You could probably save a significant amount doing so. Less complicated rules would make it harder for fraudsters to game the system and easier for the truly needy to get aid.

caryking said:

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Who would give up your Social Security retirement benefit in order to stop the program?

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My father has been telling me to not count on SS since I was 10. It has zero factor in my retirement planning.

hokiewolf said:

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This is reason for me not to trust you…

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Hey, I'm 55 and have paid in a ton! I'd give it up today and let people 60 (or any age agreed upon) receive their amount. This program needs to go away!

Anybody not trusting me because I'm willing to give up money paid in so, my daughters don't have this over their heads, well... that probably says more about you, than me...

IseWolf22 said:

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caryking said:

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Who would give up your Social Security retirement benefit in order to stop the program?

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My father has been telling me to not count on SS since I was 10. It has zero factor in my retirement planning.

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I agree! I care more about my daughters than myself. I'll leave them with plenty of assets so they will have a start! That is.. if the Dems, and probably some Pubs, don't try and tax inheritance more!

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hokiewolf said:

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This is reason for me not to trust you…

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Hey, I'm 55 and have paid in a ton! I'd give it up today and let people 60 (or any age agreed upon) receive their amount. This program needs to go away!

Anybody not trusting me because I'm willing to give up money paid in so, my daughters don't have this over their heads, well... that probably says more about you, than me...

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. No, I do t trust you because you haven't watched the Big Lebowski all the way through. I don't care about your SS stance

hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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This is reason for me not to trust you…

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Hey, I'm 55 and have paid in a ton! I'd give it up today and let people 60 (or any age agreed upon) receive their amount. This program needs to go away!

Anybody not trusting me because I'm willing to give up money paid in so, my daughters don't have this over their heads, well... that probably says more about you, than me...

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. No, I do t trust you because you haven't watched the Big Lebowski all the way through. I don't care about your SS stance

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I gotcha you…. Yea, that's probably a good reason not to trust me. I've heard it's a great movie!!!

Well, yes, I don't think anyone is claiming that a lot of fraudulent votes for Trump were found.

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hokiewolf said:

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This is reason for me not to trust you…

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Cary, much like Donny, is out of his element.

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Thanks Civ! When I read things like your post, I just consider the source...

Things just stink!!

BREAKING: FBI had Proud Boy informant in crowd during Capitol riot https://t.co/gsgtisSKC0

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) September 25, 2021

As the Proud Boys marched to the Capitol on Jan. 6, a member of the far-right group was texting real-time updates — to his FBI handler.

The informer gave the bureau an inside view that day, according to confidential records obtained by The New York Times. https://t.co/QkBptydk2Z

— The New York Times (@nytimes) September 25, 2021

Let me give you guys how this Arizona audit needs to be looked at...

If you have 100, 1dollar bills with 17 being counterfeit. Every time you count the 100, 1 dollar bills, you will always get, how many? 100

The audit revealed that the recount netted roughly the same number of ballots. Ok, with that result, everyone can say, we had the same number of votes and Biden won.

Like the 100, 1 dollar bills, if you pull the 17 counterfeit bills out, do you still have 100, 1 dollar bills? No, you have 83, 1 dollar bills.

So, the audit also listed a number of categories that shouldn't be in the final count (the same as the 17 counterfeit). One example is: we had roughly 32K votes that were duplicates! So, we counted 16K votes twice. How did they vote? I don't know!

What we do know is that the State of Arizona certified an invalid election result. That in of itself can be enough to decertify and bring charges against those that signed the certification.

Now, why do you think the Governor of Arizona is fighting this in the public? He has liability!!!

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Things just stink!!

BREAKING: FBI had Proud Boy informant in crowd during Capitol riot https://t.co/gsgtisSKC0

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) September 25, 2021

As the Proud Boys marched to the Capitol on Jan. 6, a member of the far-right group was texting real-time updates — to his FBI handler.

The informer gave the bureau an inside view that day, according to confidential records obtained by The New York Times. https://t.co/QkBptydk2Z

— The New York Times (@nytimes) September 25, 2021

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Wasn't it discovered, not long ago, that the FBI was online stirring up the entire scheme to kidnap and kill the Mich governor and that a handful of the Proud Boys got caught up and went along with it? Is it too far off a reach to think that something similar could've been at play on Jan 6?

Steve Videtich said:

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caryking said:

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Things just stink!!

BREAKING: FBI had Proud Boy informant in crowd during Capitol riot https://t.co/gsgtisSKC0

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) September 25, 2021

As the Proud Boys marched to the Capitol on Jan. 6, a member of the far-right group was texting real-time updates — to his FBI handler.

The informer gave the bureau an inside view that day, according to confidential records obtained by The New York Times. https://t.co/QkBptydk2Z

— The New York Times (@nytimes) September 25, 2021

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Wasn't it discovered, not long ago, that the FBI was online stirring up the entire scheme to kidnap and kill the Mich governor and that a handful of the Proud Boys got caught up and went along with it? Is it too far off a reach to think that something similar could've been at play on Jan 6?

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Haven't seen or read any such thing. Some of what I've read concerning the Arizona recount is people voting from one address and being registered at another address. Same as absentee voting from overseas. Having a address in Arizona but voting from another address.

Steve Videtich said:

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caryking said:

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Things just stink!!

BREAKING: FBI had Proud Boy informant in crowd during Capitol riot https://t.co/gsgtisSKC0

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) September 25, 2021

As the Proud Boys marched to the Capitol on Jan. 6, a member of the far-right group was texting real-time updates — to his FBI handler.

The informer gave the bureau an inside view that day, according to confidential records obtained by The New York Times. https://t.co/QkBptydk2Z

— The New York Times (@nytimes) September 25, 2021

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Wasn't it discovered, not long ago, that the FBI was online stirring up the entire scheme to kidnap and kill the Mich governor and that a handful of the Proud Boys got caught up and went along with it? Is it too far off a reach to think that something similar could've been at play on Jan 6?

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Yes! Of the 18 people involved with the Michigan Governor plot, 12 were FBI informants and maybe a few FBI agents! The head of the FBI in the district where the Michigan Governor debacle happened, well… get this…. where do you think he was transferred? Washington DC!

Some are saying that the DC Jan 6th debacle wasn't an intelligence failure; rather an intelligence operational failure!!!