Well, I don't know....maybe you can define "all out assault on Chinese people". We have millions of Chinese people here....what is your scope of ones you assault? And what do you even mean by assault?pineknollshoresking said:How would you have worded this different?Packchem91 said:Re: China -- but see, you pulled a Trump, and said "an assault on Chinese people...". If you meant a specific group, say that. This was one of Trump's biggest issues -- words matter.pineknollshoresking said:Packchem91 said:I honestly don't have any major differences on most of these --- save for perhaps your proposed "assault on Chinese people here in the US". I think I understand your goal, but this was one area Trump hurt us all, and we see the effects with violence against certain peoples now. We have an extreme difference in people of Asian descent. I'm speaking specifically about Chinese CCP members infiltrating so much of our country. Remember Fan Fan with Swalwell?pineknollshoresking said:
Packchem,
Your post sure make it look like you have left leanings; however, you say you're not. Perhaps, if you state what you are for and against, this pissing match could be rectified.
I'll start:
- reduce spending on social items (safety net programs)
- reduce spending on Medicare and Social Security
- Reduce spending on unnecessary (I know, this word has different meaning to people) wars
- Remove our military out of most places (this will lower expenses)
- Ramp up spending on war items (planes, ships, bombs, etc) China is doing this.
- Increase tariffs on China and perhaps decouple the dollar from them
- Seize all assets, of the CCP, in the US
- Do an all out assault on Chinese people, working in Government, Education, Big Business/Tech and determine if they are related to the CCP. If so, remove their Visa's and escort them out of the US
- Term limits on Congress
- Term limits on Supreme Court and Federal Courts
- Term limits on Federal Employees
- No more Free trade with any country. I'm not saying to add Tariffs; however, I support a "fair trade" agenda with the use of tarrifs when things get out of bounds for the US.
- Decouple Wall Street from having unique access to the markets. The game is rigged against retail investors (Game Stop and AMC situation).
- No more bail outs for Investment houses that use the markets as a casino. This is coming in the next 5 to 10 years. Mark my words!
- Simplify the tax code system
- Repeal the 17th Amendment
- Repeal the 16th Amendment
- Regulations in Federal Agencies need to be taken to congress to process as a bill like everything else we do. We have given too much control to different Federal Agencies.
- Require all bills, in Congress, to state the Constitutional Power, they have to pass such bill. The courts can rule on them without a person or State bringing a case against the bill.
- Secure the DAMN border
- Clean up the bureaucracy for immigrant to migrate to America and limit the number of people allowed in.
- I can add more however, this a good start...
Pachchem, your turn?
I don't recall - we did the tariffs on China thing under Trump -- did it help (not being difficult, just don't recall). Yes, Trump added tariffs to China in a large way. In fact, he called for a 100% tariff on China just last weekend. I can get into long term positive affects along with the short term negative affects at another time
All for term limits -- while it helps to have experience in law-making, clearly the life-long terms some of these folks are granted is bad for all, and reduced military spending.
All for regulating wall street (kinda funny though, as GOP to ask for regulations there)
Secure the borders, give better access to citizenship. Limit it? I'm not sure...we should all be glad our predecessors didn't think that way. That just foolish talking. Think about American workers before immigration. If you do that, then we can create an fair and promising immigration program that protects and provides for all.
Whats the concerns with 16/17th amendments? Unfettered taxing allowed the congress to steal our money. Senators should be selected by our congress. We elect congress people locally (our State) to send representative to the Federal Government. The power shift to the Federal government is a direct result of this amendment.
I think the GOP should have taken a more proactive role in healthcare. Not Obamacare, but other options. They talked it as a way to get rid of Obamacare, but then did nothing. We shouldn't have American citizens who can't get healthcare (and yes, the amount we spend on healthcare for illegal immigrants should bother us all). The Republicans that wouldn't allow change were the establishment Republicans. I've said this before and I'll say it again: this is about America First vs Global Big Business; not Republican vs Democrat
I know its more of a state issue now, but I have tons of trouble with the progression of abortion laws, allowing them so late in term. Its disgusting.
Ultimately though....its not Trump's policies I have issue with. In fact, he was seeing successes that he could / should have been able to promote to FINALLY bring more black voters into the GOP fold, as after years of being mired in the same, or worsening conditions under Dem policies, they had great job improvements.
But...the man's complete lack of "reading the room" and having any sort of common decency disrupted that. He read the room better than any other person we have seen. Unfortunately, the room was against his America First policies (Globalist) and made a mockery out of everything he stood for. He had only one choice: go after them and call them for what they are, including Mitch mcConnell...
And ultiamtely, to me, the most important job of the POTUS is to be presidential. For all his people, for his party, for the legislators, for international leaders, etc. And I think Trump got so caught up in "beating the media" and continually focused on them, and his legacy, that he forfeited all the rest. And so divisiveness ended up worse than its ever been. That is exactly what needed to happen!!! Trust me, you will be thankful to him as the "Ends will justify the Means". Look at Obama's diplomacy. We agreed to so many horrible things for this country with diplomacy. Paris Accord, Iran Deal, Paying the majority to the WHO, NATO, unbalanced trade deals, Rocket Man stopped his actions, and so on. Trump did extremely good for this country. Diplomacy would not have gotten it done. You know how I know that? History shows it!! Diplomacy got us into this mess!!
Re: tariffs: and didn't teh Chinese apply tariffs on us, that hurt farmers? BTW, I'm all for the government ensuring we arent' getting screwed. How many small farmers get access to exports? Most of these farming companies are now big business. Nonetheless, our farming exports went up during the Trump admin
Re: immigration -- protect jobs, 100% -- but do we have Americans lining up for farm work, restaurant work, mowing grass, cleaning hotel rooms? I think many have moved past this, no? (sadly). They have moved pass this right into Government subsidy's.
Re: Trump's style...I'm all for holding those international cartels (WHO, NATO, etc) accountable, and looking for more $$ input from our capable peers. My point was more about -- he could have appealed to blacks, but 100% p'd that away with his ignorant comments after Charlottesville. Blacks got p'd by the narrative created by the media. Trump did not say what the media said he said. The words and context were about people with different opinions are the issue and there are good people on both sides. He clearly called the both sides of the radicals in Charlottesville at that event.
He lost an entire voting block at that point. Funny enough, Black votes actually went up for Trump in 2020. Or just look at the turnover in his own cabinet / key leaders -- either he was the worst hiring source ever, or he was incapable of working with others who were supposedly in philosophical agreement with him. And while those where having some stability would actually be helpful to policy development and support. I think he trusted too many Globalist people that had philosophical differences with him. So, yes, he hired poorly and/or was advised poorly.
- Do an all out assault on Chinese people, working in Government, Education, Big Business/Tech and determine if they are related to the CCP. If so, remove their Visa's and escort them out of the US
BTW, I think the actions of the CCP are so bad for us and the rest of the world, that the actions are warranted by our government. Not like we did to the Japanese, but in a way that identify's and eradicate them from the US.
And...I'm sure you mean non-violent, but when your POTUS, who has made himself a fan-favorite of the most ardent nationalists, says these kinds of unchecked off the cuff comments like he did, it has a HUGE potential impact.
And just imagine how much more black votes could have gone up? And those were also offset by the moderates and soccer moms who just wore out of the message, and maybe just didn't vote even instead of voting for Biden (basically the same thing that plagued the equally hateable HRC the previous election)
