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mdreid said:

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estimated 12 years left for Social Security.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/business/economy/social-security-funding.html

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I most certainly dont want to defend Biden at this point given all thats going on, but this isnt all on him. This has been going on for LOOOOOOOOOONG time. SS is a ponzi scheme and has been since the beginning

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Sure but Biden would get a lot of credit if he just diverted that multi-trillion dollars into the SS fund instead of wasteful and often BS definitions of "infrastructure".

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I would prefer the government to stop spending money they dont have, personally. Problem is that no one wants to do that from either party.

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IseWolf22 said:

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FlossyDFlynt said:

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mdreid said:

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estimated 12 years left for Social Security.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/business/economy/social-security-funding.html

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I most certainly dont want to defend Biden at this point given all thats going on, but this isnt all on him. This has been going on for LOOOOOOOOOONG time. SS is a ponzi scheme and has been since the beginning

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Sure but Biden would get a lot of credit if he just diverted that multi-trillion dollars into the SS fund instead of wasteful and often BS definitions of "infrastructure".

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I would prefer the government to stop spending money they dont have, personally. Problem is that no one wants to do that from either party.

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Not Completely True!!!

Most all Dems and 50% of Pubs don't care about spending. The other 50% of Pubs get it! Now, based on those numbers, you are correct. The 75% that don't care will spend us into insolvency!!!

FlossyDFlynt said:

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estimated 12 years left for Social Security.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/business/economy/social-security-funding.html

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I most certainly dont want to defend Biden at this point given all thats going on, but this isnt all on him. This has been going on for LOOOOOOOOOONG time. SS is a ponzi scheme and has been since the beginning

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Sure but Biden would get a lot of credit if he just diverted that multi-trillion dollars into the SS fund instead of wasteful and often BS definitions of "infrastructure".

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I would prefer the government to stop spending money they dont have, personally. Problem is that no one wants to do that from either party.

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Well there is one party that is attempting to pass a $3.5 TRILLION dollar "human infrastructure" deal.

I remember when all the lefties were complaining about me calling them SOCIALIST and "junking" up every thread with the word... my my my how times have changed. A couple of the comrades openly admitted to supporting the ideas.

I apologized for calling the lefties on here SOCIALISTS several times. They aren't wanting SOCIALISM. They are full blown MARXIST/COMMUNIST now that the horse has left the barn. And they don't have the kahunas to even come on here and stand by their radical left wing ideas other than to drop by to piss and moan about the "mean poster BBW..."

Sorry to hurt your precious little "feewlings" like the Big Bad Orange Man did... but hey... I don't tweet and I'm not a "con man.." so at least I have that going for me right comrades?

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IseWolf22 said:

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FlossyDFlynt said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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estimated 12 years left for Social Security.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/business/economy/social-security-funding.html

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I most certainly dont want to defend Biden at this point given all thats going on, but this isnt all on him. This has been going on for LOOOOOOOOOONG time. SS is a ponzi scheme and has been since the beginning

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Sure but Biden would get a lot of credit if he just diverted that multi-trillion dollars into the SS fund instead of wasteful and often BS definitions of "infrastructure".

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I would prefer the government to stop spending money they dont have, personally. Problem is that no one wants to do that from either party.

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Not Completely True!!!

Most all Dems and 50% of Pubs don't care about spending. The other 50% of Pubs get it! Now, based on those numbers, you are correct. The 75% that don't care will spend us into insolvency!!!

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LMAO... some of the "Pretendependents" clamoring that they are against spending as their party is set to pass the biggest pork barrel budget in the history of our country...

Lefties gonna lefty... biggest bunch of hypocrites walking the face of the Earth. 2022 comrades...2022.... you'll be on here pissing and moaning about how the GOP is a bunch of ".....-ist." Fill in the first part for whoever is being discriminated against that day.

Clown show.. that's all the left is. Every. Single. One.

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estimated 12 years left for Social Security.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/business/economy/social-security-funding.html

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I most certainly dont want to defend Biden at this point given all thats going on, but this isnt all on him. This has been going on for LOOOOOOOOOONG time. SS is a ponzi scheme and has been since the beginning

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Sure but Biden would get a lot of credit if he just diverted that multi-trillion dollars into the SS fund instead of wasteful and often BS definitions of "infrastructure".

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I would prefer the government to stop spending money they dont have, personally. Problem is that no one wants to do that from either party.

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Not Completely True!!!

Most all Dems and 50% of Pubs don't care about spending. The other 50% of Pubs get it! Now, based on those numbers, you are correct. The 75% that don't care will spend us into insolvency!!!

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That 50% is generous. I have no faith in politicians. I identify as a republican but there are very few of them that give a **** either particularly when it comes to spending.

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Does this allow you to go into either bathroom? Or play on the women's beach volleyball team?

Sorry, I know exactly what you are saying, but like some other word uses have gotten usurped by the left, "I identify...." is the newest one!

You lefties are really something else..... I'm sure this is "fake news" am I right??? LMAO.... again... at least your leader Sleepy Joe doesn't send out "mean tweets" and isn't a "con man..."

🚨🚨🚨🚨 Per former Deputy Assistant SecDef Roger Pardo-Maurer, the DoD had foreknowledge of the Kabul bomber AND denied permission to fire to the Predator drone that had a lock on the bomber. pic.twitter.com/ZDh27drdwu

— Jorge Bonilla (@BonillaJL) August 31, 2021

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Truth.

Imagine—just for a second—what the reaction would be if Trump:

Armed our enemies
Gave the Taliban a list of Americans
Bombed civilians
Killed Afghan children
Left Americans in Afghanistan
Left worker dogs
Let 13 U.S. soldiers die
Checked his watch as they were being brought home

— Alana Mastrangelo (@ARmastrangelo) September 1, 2021

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No doubt about it, he would have been shredded. And the list omitted....had an angry press conference where he defiantly promoted his own decision while laying blame at the feet of others.

packgrad said:

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Truth.

Imagine—just for a second—what the reaction would be if Trump:

Armed our enemies
Gave the Taliban a list of Americans
Bombed civilians
Killed Afghan children
Left Americans in Afghanistan
Left worker dogs
Let 13 U.S. soldiers die
Checked his watch as they were being brought home

— Alana Mastrangelo (@ARmastrangelo) September 1, 2021

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Yeah.. but we've been assured that the dogs left behind were not "military dogs.." even though it was sad they were left behind it's still just a "working" dog.

The same poster failed to acknowledge the Americans left behind, the Afghanis' that helped us, their families...

But... at lest Sleepy Joe isn't tweeting mean things and isn't a "con man.." Because.. you know.... all that really matters at the end of the day is precious little "feewlings..." LMAO...

No where can a Liberal be in a position of strength, or decision making, at any level, including private business! They just can't make good decisions!!! 100% ineptness!!!

They were neither military or working dogs, they were peoples pets.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/31/kabul-animal-rescue-tried-to-save-pets-who-couldnt-get-out-of-afghanistan/

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They were neither military or working dogs, they were peoples pets.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/31/kabul-animal-rescue-tried-to-save-pets-who-couldnt-get-out-of-afghanistan/

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Yeah... there are a dozen other stories, articles and blogs that I can post that say they were emotional support animals, "working" dogs for interpreters etc... bottom line is they along with Americans and Afghani allies were LEFT by the guy you voted for and still have yet to acknowledge he failed.

That's OK.. you have your moments where you seem to have some form of common sense but the lefty liberal in you always comes out.

You are correct, all of us should be in the business of defending Truth, regardless of in whose favor, the Truth is.

I didn't get it wrong. I followed the "science" of the press like you and your comrades did for four years when you had your panties in a wad 24/7 over the "Big Bad Orange Man."

And you still have yet to acknowledge that your leader Sleepy Joe has left hundreds of Americans in Afghanistan along with Afghani allies. You and your ilk refuse to lay blame or call out the person you voted for because you didn't like "mean tweets" and according to you, and a few lefties on here that do not have the testicular fortitude to show up and defend their position, a "con man."

I've seen con men in action before and there damn sure is one on here... and I'll leave it at that.

Since I was called out for using the "conservative" New York Post by Shine Box Boy here is one from his lefty MSM propaganda machine overlords... Now try and tell me this is "fake news" comrades.

NBC News International Affairs Analyst Atia Abawi on abandoned Americans in Afghanistan: “They’re all terrified...I can't tell them what's going on because we don't really know and I don't think the administration knows either" pic.twitter.com/C1XMvmwkgX

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) September 1, 2021

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I didn't get it wrong. I followed the "science" of the press like you and your comrades did for four years when you had your panties in a wad 24/7 over the "Big Bad Orange Man."

And you still have yet to acknowledge that your leader Sleepy Joe has left hundreds of Americans in Afghanistan along with Afghani allies. You and your ilk refuse to lay blame or call out the person you voted for because you didn't like "mean tweets" and according to you, and a few lefties on here that do not have the testicular fortitude to show up and defend their position, a "con man."

I've seen con men in action before and there damn sure is one on here... and I'll leave it at that.

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This will be the last time I respond to you, mainly because you continue to brow beat everyone who does, including me, ignoring all the other posts where I have said that Biden has done a worse than horrible job with his decision to retreat from Afghanistan.

So, have fun continuing to yell into the ether claiming everyone on here is a "lefty" who voted for Biden except your buddies.

I think I've tried to be fair with you and try to engage you in a positive way, and sometimes I have poked fun at you, but you continue to insult me and call me names and such and it's just so juvenile and I'm sick of it. So, good luck finding another fake foil to regurgitate your one talking point over and over.

Its a shame because you have basically hijacked any constructive discussion with your refusal to be respectful to anyone except a few select posters who are in lock step with your views.

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hokie, in all seriousness... name one thing that you Biden has done correctly.

I'll start. Keeping the Trump era tariff on China and allowing his administration to say they are working. Other than that, I can't think of one. Your turn...

No... not the case at all. You and your band of lefties come on with "hit and run" posts, flag everything you don't agree with, yell "Trump, Trump, Trump" and absolutely do not engage in ANY debate because you don't like the facts that are presented.

Take your little red wagon and go home with your tail between your legs. One of your quotes I believe was "the difference between me and you is that I'm funny."

Well.. you proved to be funny alright. So funny you run home and hide.

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I honestly can't think of one either Cary. I don't think I've ever defended Biden, I also have never run down Trump. My only complaint with Trump is his messaging and ego made for poor policy roll out, but that didn't prevent me for voting for him, nor do I think he did a terrible job and is the worst president ever.

Biden is swiftly approaching Jimmy Carter territory, which to me is a bit surprising, I thought he would be a little more competent and more center left, but it seems he sold out to the far left portions of the Democratic party to get his 4 years in office.

With Afghanistan, he's basically enacted the strategy for retreat that he tried to do in Iraq, and thankfully Obama did the right thing and we beat back ISIS in Iraq. Biden has longing for getting out of Afghanistan. I'm not surprised he did it so haphazardly.

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Well stated. Though I voted for Trump, I actually thought Biden would not be horrible. But -- he has gone straight left, he's proving to be not be able to navigate working with both sides, and he's not only butchered the withdrawal, but his messaging during and after has been shockingly bad.
And I can't help but think he's much more feeble-minded than probably anyone except his most ardent detractors thought a year ago. Which is scary considering the far-left leaning folks he's surrounded himself with.

Hokie, I know a lot of people were hoping that Biden would stay stay center left, but do you think hes the one making all the decisions?

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Hokie, I know a lot of people were hoping that Biden would stay stay center left, but do you think hes the one making all the decisions?

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I think the back deal making of politics in the Democratic party meant that they would push Biden ahead and get him in office in exchange for a far left agenda. So, no I don't think he's 100% in charge. I think he's beholden to the Democratic political machine, which has taken a big leap left in the last dozen years or so.

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Hokie, I know a lot of people were hoping that Biden would stay stay center left, but do you think hes the one making all the decisions?

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I think the back deal making of politics in the Democratic party meant that they would push Biden ahead and get him in office in exchange for a far left agenda. So, no I don't think he's 100% in charge. I think he's beholden to the Democratic political machine, which has taken a big leap left in the last dozen years or so.

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I agree. I'm starting to feel sorry for the guy a little. He's fallen into the same category as Ozzie Osborne, in that he's incoherent 90% of the time and they have to sit him up with cochise when they need him.

I was anti Biden because he had been the epitome of a true politician his entire career. And reason I was anti Hillary.

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Here a few questions for the "democrats" on here. I have to be careful not to be too abrasive so as to not hurt anyone's precious little "feewlings.."

1 - Why is Sleepy Joe running off to Delaware every weekend and not taking ANY questions when he is there?

2 - Why are the visitor logs kept private when he is there?

3 - Who is telling him what reporters to call on and if he can or cannot take questions?

4 - Where the hell is Horizontal "Cackling Hyena" Harris?

There. I've given you something to talk about. Also... for all of you that voted for Biden riddle me this. Do you still stand by your vote and are proud of voting this ****show of an administration into office just because you didn't like President Trump's personality?

If you can say yes to that then God help you. There is really no help for you.

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Hokie, I know a lot of people were hoping that Biden would stay stay center left, but do you think hes the one making all the decisions?

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I think the back deal making of politics in the Democratic party meant that they would push Biden ahead and get him in office in exchange for a far left agenda. So, no I don't think he's 100% in charge. I think he's beholden to the Democratic political machine, which has taken a big leap left in the last dozen years or so.

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I agree. I'm starting to feel sorry for the guy a little. He's fallen into the same category as Ozzie Osborne, in that he's incoherent 90% of the time and they have to sit him up with cochise when they need him.

I was anti Biden because he had been the epitome of a true politician his entire career. And reason I was anti Hillary.

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Agree with that, I am wary of anyone who's career consists of just being a politician. They have no real life experience.

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I honestly can't think of one either Cary. I don't think I've ever defended Biden, I also have never run down Trump. My only complaint with Trump is his messaging and ego made for poor policy roll out, but that didn't prevent me for voting for him, nor do I think he did a terrible job and is the worst president ever.

Biden is swiftly approaching Jimmy Carter territory, which to me is a bit surprising, I thought he would be a little more competent and more center left, but it seems he sold out to the far left portions of the Democratic party to get his 4 years in office.

With Afghanistan, he's basically enacted the strategy for retreat that he tried to do in Iraq, and thankfully Obama did the right thing and we beat back ISIS in Iraq. Biden has longing for getting out of Afghanistan. I'm not surprised he did it so haphazardly.

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I understand that people did not like Trump's persona; however, I do not understand how you can equate it to rolling out a policy.

Regarding Biden, all any of us had to do is really listen to him (whenever he got out of the basement) and the people associated with him, you would have known he would have been a far leftest. So, that one is confusing to me...

Afghan withdrawal is only bad for those that lost their loved ones. We can defend ourselves perfectly fine, provided we get a change in Military leadership, so, as bad as the leaving the equipment behind is, we will be ok...

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Hokie, I know a lot of people were hoping that Biden would stay stay center left, but do you think hes the one making all the decisions?

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I think the back deal making of politics in the Democratic party meant that they would push Biden ahead and get him in office in exchange for a far left agenda. So, no I don't think he's 100% in charge. I think he's beholden to the Democratic political machine, which has taken a big leap left in the last dozen years or so.

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I agree. I'm starting to feel sorry for the guy a little. He's fallen into the same category as Ozzie Osborne, in that he's incoherent 90% of the time and they have to sit him up with cochise when they need him.

I was anti Biden because he had been the epitome of a true politician his entire career. And reason I was anti Hillary.

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Agree with that, I am wary of anyone who's career consists of just being a politician. They have no real life experience.

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Welcome to the world of politics... I introduce to you, our next President... Donald J. Trump

I'll take it point by point.

Trump - His choices in communication as well as some of his antics took precedent over his policy roll outs. So, for the majority of America who does not pay close attention to politics, all they here about is his latest tweet, his latest gripe about the media, etc. The policy message then gets lost to the average voter - probably a good percentage of those who are the people who voted because Trump was a "Mean Orange Man"

Biden - I thought the campaign rhetoric was that - rhetoric and that when he got in office he would move Center Left, which is similar to what Bill Clinton did. But that didn't happen for sure. I mean, look at this mess:

https://www.atr.org/biden-impose-largest-tax-increase-1968?amp

I disagree with your sentiment on the withdrawal. That is a lot of American tax dollars wasted for nothing, on top of leaving assets on the ground. That is not good governance and stewardship of tax payer dollars. But, I don't think that's been a priority for politicians for a very very long time.

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Hokie, I know a lot of people were hoping that Biden would stay stay center left, but do you think hes the one making all the decisions?

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I think the back deal making of politics in the Democratic party meant that they would push Biden ahead and get him in office in exchange for a far left agenda. So, no I don't think he's 100% in charge. I think he's beholden to the Democratic political machine, which has taken a big leap left in the last dozen years or so.

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I agree. I'm starting to feel sorry for the guy a little. He's fallen into the same category as Ozzie Osborne, in that he's incoherent 90% of the time and they have to sit him up with cochise when they need him.

I was anti Biden because he had been the epitome of a true politician his entire career. And reason I was anti Hillary.

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Agree with that, I am wary of anyone who's career consists of just being a politician. They have no real life experience.

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Welcome to the world of politics... I introduce to you, our next President... Donald J. Trump

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I'm also wary of anyone who's career consists of being a developer.