Yep. Those are the four (4) states where the cheating was the most blatant - and for anybody awake and watching it happen - the most obvious. Milwaukee. Detroit. Philadelphia (Pittsburgh to a lesser extent). Atlanta.Dmax95 said:
interesting
They had enough information and people in place to know exactly where to place the "chips" when needed. Pelosi even said that "Biden WILL be sworn in January 21." She said the quiet part out loud. Dims stole this election and the American people know it. Hopefully SCOTUS steps in and disallows the votes that were questionable and President Trump prevails!!!TheStorm said:Yep. Those are the four (4) states where the cheating was the most blatant - and for anybody awake and watching it happen - the most obvious. Milwaukee. Detroit. Philadelphia (Pittsburgh to a lesser extent). Atlanta.Dmax95 said:
interesting
Game planned out well in advance (if needed). And it was needed.
And China helped make it possible with the virus. Remember Pelosi as soon as he became speaker tried to pass election reform in their first bill which would take away security measures and allow mass mail in ballots. Now we know why. And I'm not entirely sure that China didn't have this in mind with the virus. We know a lot of our wealth power class and gov't leaders are in bed with CCP.BBW12OG said:They had enough information and people in place to know exactly where to place the "chips" when needed. Pelosi even said that "Biden WILL be sworn in January 21." She said the quiet part out loud. Dims stole this election and the American people know it. Hopefully SCOTUS steps in and disallows the votes that were questionable and President Trump prevails!!!TheStorm said:Yep. Those are the four (4) states where the cheating was the most blatant - and for anybody awake and watching it happen - the most obvious. Milwaukee. Detroit. Philadelphia (Pittsburgh to a lesser extent). Atlanta.Dmax95 said:
interesting
Game planned out well in advance (if needed). And it was needed.
Yea, I just don't remember. Yes, I do agree, the SCOTUS is going to be deciding some, if not all, of this. Some State Congress may make take some actions that causes a different action. I'm just not sure...BBW12OG said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Al Gore referred to as "President- Elect" for 37 days before the case was decided in the SCOTUS? Again, I could be wrong. But it is going to be decided at the SCOTUS.... heads will explode if President Trump prevails.
Well, since nearly every accusation has turned out to be bogus, at what point do you just accept the fact that there's no way possible for Trump to have lost this badly and it not be legit?BBW12OG said:That's hilarious. How do you find evidence if you don't investigate and look into EVERY accusation. Funny how the dems never once had an issue chasing every whisper of something negative about President Trump and his campaign from the second he was nominated. The left has something going for them that they will never lose... HYPOCRISY. I for one am praying that the election IS overturned just to see the smug, arrogant, condescending heads on the left explode. Good times I tell you, good time.Wolfpackrich1 said:
Nit a shred of evidence. Just normal lies by Trump and his three blind mice.
No, Gore was never referred to as such. Bush was determined to have won and was the presumptive winner the entire time, as Gore challenged the results.BBW12OG said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Al Gore referred to as "President- Elect" for 37 days before the case was decided in the SCOTUS? Again, I could be wrong. But it is going to be decided at the SCOTUS.... heads will explode if President Trump prevails.
bogus - Not TruePacfanweb said:Well, since nearly every accusation has turned out to be bogus, at what point do you just accept the fact that there's no way possible for Trump to have lost this badly and it not be legit?BBW12OG said:That's hilarious. How do you find evidence if you don't investigate and look into EVERY accusation. Funny how the dems never once had an issue chasing every whisper of something negative about President Trump and his campaign from the second he was nominated. The left has something going for them that they will never lose... HYPOCRISY. I for one am praying that the election IS overturned just to see the smug, arrogant, condescending heads on the left explode. Good times I tell you, good time.Wolfpackrich1 said:
Nit a shred of evidence. Just normal lies by Trump and his three blind mice.
You simply cannot cheat or organize a cheating scandal of this magnitude without hundreds of thousands being "in on it" and you can't have more than about 2 people be "in on it" and someone not talk.
And nobody's talked.
The fraud could be so deep we don't know how badly Trump lost or if he lost at all on a national level. I assume you're talking about the national totals.Pacfanweb said:Well, since nearly every accusation has turned out to be bogus, at what point do you just accept the fact that there's no way possible for Trump to have lost this badly and it not be legit?BBW12OG said:That's hilarious. How do you find evidence if you don't investigate and look into EVERY accusation. Funny how the dems never once had an issue chasing every whisper of something negative about President Trump and his campaign from the second he was nominated. The left has something going for them that they will never lose... HYPOCRISY. I for one am praying that the election IS overturned just to see the smug, arrogant, condescending heads on the left explode. Good times I tell you, good time.Wolfpackrich1 said:
Nit a shred of evidence. Just normal lies by Trump and his three blind mice.
You simply cannot cheat or organize a cheating scandal of this magnitude without hundreds of thousands being "in on it" and you can't have more than about 2 people be "in on it" and someone not talk.
And nobody's talked.
Yes, it appears a State can appeal to the SCOTUS directly when it concerns another State. Regarding the lawsuit, well, I'm not sure what to think. As far I know, this is uncharted territory. That being said, the whole election is uncharted territory...ncsualum05 said:
Was just getting ready to post about Texas. What do you think about this lawsuit? This is interesting. Didn't realize a state could sue other states and it goes directly to supreme court. If nothing else I am learning a lot about our constitution during this crisis.
Dmax, I missed your post, as well as the other post, replying to your post. WTH was I doing? Nonetheless, this is going to be considered grandstanding by liberals; however, it will definitely put this election on the forefront of things; hell, maybe even the MSM, including Fox.Dmax95 said:
posted that above...:-)
ncsualum05 said:The fraud could be so deep we don't know how badly Trump lost or if he lost at all on a national levePacfanweb said:Well, since nearly every accusation has turned out to be bogus, at what point do you just accept the fact that there's no way possible for Trump to have lost this badly and it not be legit?BBW12OG said:That's hilarious. How do you find evidence if you don't investigate and look into EVERY accusation. Funny how the dems never once had an issue chasing every whisper of something negative about President Trump and his campaign from the second he was nominated. The left has something going for them that they will never lose... HYPOCRISY. I for one am praying that the election IS overturned just to see the smug, arrogant, condescending heads on the left explode. Good times I tell you, good time.Wolfpackrich1 said:
Nit a shred of evidence. Just normal lies by Trump and his three blind mice.
You simply cannot cheat or organize a cheating scandal of this magnitude without hundreds of thousands being "in on it" and you can't have more than about 2 people be "in on it" and someone not talk.
And nobody's talked.
Yeah cnn, msnbc, abc, cbs, nbc, wa post, ny times, and parts of fox will all continue to ignore it or say that they have "debunked" things without actually checking into it. The alternate realities will continue b/c a lot of people are brainwashed by these outlets.Dmax95 said:
Yeah, the headlines at some point can't be covered up. It's very clear, with mountains of evidence the best thing mainstream media can do is ignore it. The project veritas call ins to the CNN management meeting are very clear and specific. Don't talk about election fraud and people won't think it's legit.
Seems to be working. We have real people who believe there's no legit evidence. Zero evidence. That's wild. Even if you don't think it's possible, there's evidence. How important it is or how it should be handled is subject to people's beliefs. However denying such is like believing we're all alone in the universe.
Pacfan, why is the world would an entire STATE get involved if it was "really that simple"?Pacfanweb said:ncsualum05 said:The fraud could be so deep we don't know how badly Trump lost or if he lost at all on a national levePacfanweb said:Well, since nearly every accusation has turned out to be bogus, at what point do you just accept the fact that there's no way possible for Trump to have lost this badly and it not be legit?BBW12OG said:That's hilarious. How do you find evidence if you don't investigate and look into EVERY accusation. Funny how the dems never once had an issue chasing every whisper of something negative about President Trump and his campaign from the second he was nominated. The left has something going for them that they will never lose... HYPOCRISY. I for one am praying that the election IS overturned just to see the smug, arrogant, condescending heads on the left explode. Good times I tell you, good time.Wolfpackrich1 said:
Nit a shred of evidence. Just normal lies by Trump and his three blind mice.
You simply cannot cheat or organize a cheating scandal of this magnitude without hundreds of thousands being "in on it" and you can't have more than about 2 people be "in on it" and someone not talk.
And nobody's talked.
And if grasshoppers came with machine guns the birds would leave them alone. The fraud isn't that deep. There's no such thing. Trump lost. It's really that simple.
If you talk about something enough, it will eventually sound legit. That's all that's happening here.
Because the "current" result is the one that he wants... he will consider nothing but that.caryking said:Pacfan, why is the world would an entire STATE get involved if it was "really that simple"?Pacfanweb said:ncsualum05 said:The fraud could be so deep we don't know how badly Trump lost or if he lost at all on a national levePacfanweb said:Well, since nearly every accusation has turned out to be bogus, at what point do you just accept the fact that there's no way possible for Trump to have lost this badly and it not be legit?BBW12OG said:That's hilarious. How do you find evidence if you don't investigate and look into EVERY accusation. Funny how the dems never once had an issue chasing every whisper of something negative about President Trump and his campaign from the second he was nominated. The left has something going for them that they will never lose... HYPOCRISY. I for one am praying that the election IS overturned just to see the smug, arrogant, condescending heads on the left explode. Good times I tell you, good time.Wolfpackrich1 said:
Nit a shred of evidence. Just normal lies by Trump and his three blind mice.
You simply cannot cheat or organize a cheating scandal of this magnitude without hundreds of thousands being "in on it" and you can't have more than about 2 people be "in on it" and someone not talk.
And nobody's talked.
And if grasshoppers came with machine guns the birds would leave them alone. The fraud isn't that deep. There's no such thing. Trump lost. It's really that simple.
If you talk about something enough, it will eventually sound legit. That's all that's happening here.
Great Point!TheStorm said:Because the "current" result is the one that he wants... he will consider nothing but that.caryking said:Pacfan, why is the world would an entire STATE get involved if it was "really that simple"?Pacfanweb said:ncsualum05 said:The fraud could be so deep we don't know how badly Trump lost or if he lost at all on a national levePacfanweb said:Well, since nearly every accusation has turned out to be bogus, at what point do you just accept the fact that there's no way possible for Trump to have lost this badly and it not be legit?BBW12OG said:That's hilarious. How do you find evidence if you don't investigate and look into EVERY accusation. Funny how the dems never once had an issue chasing every whisper of something negative about President Trump and his campaign from the second he was nominated. The left has something going for them that they will never lose... HYPOCRISY. I for one am praying that the election IS overturned just to see the smug, arrogant, condescending heads on the left explode. Good times I tell you, good time.Wolfpackrich1 said:
Nit a shred of evidence. Just normal lies by Trump and his three blind mice.
You simply cannot cheat or organize a cheating scandal of this magnitude without hundreds of thousands being "in on it" and you can't have more than about 2 people be "in on it" and someone not talk.
And nobody's talked.
And if grasshoppers came with machine guns the birds would leave them alone. The fraud isn't that deep. There's no such thing. Trump lost. It's really that simple.
If you talk about something enough, it will eventually sound legit. That's all that's happening here.
Spoken like a true sheep. Just because the talking heads that you worship haven't covered it doesn't mean it's not legit. We went from "there are no cases of ballot tampering, ballots thrown in trash cans etc..." to "well it's not enough to swing the election." How many is enough to warrant an investigation? How is it that the ONLY four places under scrutiny are under the watchful eyes of democrats and the Dominion machines? Seriously you and your ilk spent years blasting away at how illegitimate President Trump is and now you are going to get all sanctimonious? I'm sure the Georgia Senate elections are going to be full of BS as well. Democrats want absolute power and absolute control over the country to push their socialist agendas. Figured you, after all your time on TOS would have mellowed out a bit... guess you are still as delusional here as you were there.Pacfanweb said:ncsualum05 said:The fraud could be so deep we don't know how badly Trump lost or if he lost at all on a national levePacfanweb said:Well, since nearly every accusation has turned out to be bogus, at what point do you just accept the fact that there's no way possible for Trump to have lost this badly and it not be legit?BBW12OG said:That's hilarious. How do you find evidence if you don't investigate and look into EVERY accusation. Funny how the dems never once had an issue chasing every whisper of something negative about President Trump and his campaign from the second he was nominated. The left has something going for them that they will never lose... HYPOCRISY. I for one am praying that the election IS overturned just to see the smug, arrogant, condescending heads on the left explode. Good times I tell you, good time.Wolfpackrich1 said:
Nit a shred of evidence. Just normal lies by Trump and his three blind mice.
You simply cannot cheat or organize a cheating scandal of this magnitude without hundreds of thousands being "in on it" and you can't have more than about 2 people be "in on it" and someone not talk.
And nobody's talked.
And if grasshoppers came with machine guns the birds would leave them alone. The fraud isn't that deep. There's no such thing. Trump lost. It's really that simple.
If you talk about something enough, it will eventually sound legit. That's all that's happening here.
Judge said that lawsuit was baseless. I am going to assume he saw those statements and viewed that so called video evidence.ncsualum05 said:Yep... not a shred, other than over 1000 witnesses including expert statisticians and computer scientists, experienced poll workers, poll watchers, and more. Also video evidence in GA.Wolfpackrich1 said:
Nit a shred of evidence. Just normal lies by Trump and his three blind mice.
caryking said:Great Point!TheStorm said:Because the "current" result is the one that he wants... he will consider nothing but that.caryking said:Pacfan, why is the world would an entire STATE get involved if it was "really that simple"?Pacfanweb said:ncsualum05 said:The fraud could be so deep we don't know how badly Trump lost or if he lost at all on a national levePacfanweb said:Well, since nearly every accusation has turned out to be bogus, at what point do you just accept the fact that there's no way possible for Trump to have lost this badly and it not be legit?BBW12OG said:That's hilarious. How do you find evidence if you don't investigate and look into EVERY accusation. Funny how the dems never once had an issue chasing every whisper of something negative about President Trump and his campaign from the second he was nominated. The left has something going for them that they will never lose... HYPOCRISY. I for one am praying that the election IS overturned just to see the smug, arrogant, condescending heads on the left explode. Good times I tell you, good time.Wolfpackrich1 said:
Nit a shred of evidence. Just normal lies by Trump and his three blind mice.
You simply cannot cheat or organize a cheating scandal of this magnitude without hundreds of thousands being "in on it" and you can't have more than about 2 people be "in on it" and someone not talk.
And nobody's talked.
And if grasshoppers came with machine guns the birds would leave them alone. The fraud isn't that deep. There's no such thing. Trump lost. It's really that simple.
If you talk about something enough, it will eventually sound legit. That's all that's happening here.
BBW12OG said:Spoken like a true sheep. Just because the talking heads that you worship haven't covered it doesn't mean it's not legit. We went from "there are no cases of ballot tampering, ballots thrown in trash cans etc..." to "well it's not enough to swing the election." How many is enough to warrant an investigation? How is it that the ONLY four places under scrutiny are under the watchful eyes of democrats and the Dominion machines? Seriously you and your ilk spent years blasting away at how illegitimate President Trump is and now you are going to get all sanctimonious? I'm sure the Georgia Senate elections are going to be full of BS as well. Democrats want absolute power and absolute control over the country to push their socialist agendas. Figured you, after all your time on TOS would have mellowed out a bit... guess you are still as delusional here as you were there.Pacfanweb said:ncsualum05 said:The fraud could be so deep we don't know how badly Trump lost or if he lost at all on a national levePacfanweb said:Well, since nearly every accusation has turned out to be bogus, at what point do you just accept the fact that there's no way possible for Trump to have lost this badly and it not be legit?BBW12OG said:That's hilarious. How do you find evidence if you don't investigate and look into EVERY accusation. Funny how the dems never once had an issue chasing every whisper of something negative about President Trump and his campaign from the second he was nominated. The left has something going for them that they will never lose... HYPOCRISY. I for one am praying that the election IS overturned just to see the smug, arrogant, condescending heads on the left explode. Good times I tell you, good time.Wolfpackrich1 said:
Nit a shred of evidence. Just normal lies by Trump and his three blind mice.
You simply cannot cheat or organize a cheating scandal of this magnitude without hundreds of thousands being "in on it" and you can't have more than about 2 people be "in on it" and someone not talk.
And nobody's talked.
And if grasshoppers came with machine guns the birds would leave them alone. The fraud isn't that deep. There's no such thing. Trump lost. It's really that simple.
If you talk about something enough, it will eventually sound legit. That's all that's happening here.
Relax Alice..... You think the media covered the Hunter Biden story? You think they are interested in any ties the Biden family have to China, Burisma or is it all made up? You should have stopped at your first post before your outed yourself completely. Pretty sure you got the ban hammer over there from a conservative mod if I'm not mistaken.... but you do you tough guy! Your defense of the media sums you up all too well.Pacfanweb said:
FYI, I spent the better part of 4 years laughing at and poking fun at the crocodile tears of the liberals as they gnashed their teeth at the thought of Trump being President.
You have never even read a post of mine at TOS if you think I spent a minute bashing away at him.
I'm as conservative as it gets, but I also have a VERY low threshold for bull*****
And that threshold has been crossed. I was here arguing with Civilized all during the runup to the election.
But we don't always disagree.
And you call ME a sheep? I'm not the one buying into every BS tweet or random nobody town councilman from East Jesus, USA that claims to know about fraud in another state.
I'm not the one falling in lock-step with anything that gets posted that I want to be true, with nary a thought of doing some research on it to see if it actually IS.
I'm all for any fraud getting exposed. Go for it. I've personally never claimed there was none. There was, and there always has been...but if you understand numbers well enough, you'd know that it's always there, and it's never been enough to matter. If that was the case, it would have certainly been found in the Florida recounts of 2000.
So when folks say "there's no fraud", THAT is what they mean. Not that some "Joe Mayor of Nowheresville" didn't stuff the ballot box at the local church. Just that there's not enough to matter, so basically there's "no fraud".
Should things like that example be investigated by local officials and something done about it? Sure.
Do things like that matter at ALL in the national election? No, not in the least.
So I'm not buying into the "Trump really won" BS.
As I've posted before.....all the media isn't "in on it". That's total horse crap. Is nearly all the media liberal and pro-Biden? Sure.
Would that matter to them if they found there was fraud on such a scale that it changed hundreds of thousands of votes?
Hell NO. At the end of the day, the news media cares about one thing: Money. And fraud of that magnitude would be the biggest story in history, at least in the Information Age. They'd not let partisan bias keep them from those $$$. THAT, you can take to the bank.
This isn't new - Sinclair owns a ton of stations and gives them scripts:Dmax95 said:
This video makes me laugh. No coordinated narratives from the media.
Quote:
The Washington Post noted that WJLA-TV's news content began to exhibit a conservative slant following Sinclair's acquisition of the station (including having also established a partnership with the conservative Washington Times newspaper), while the company also produces pieces from a Washington bureau that similarly exhibit a conservative viewpoint.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group#cite_note-nyt-foxrival-122][122][/url] Sinclair executive David Smith met with Trump during the 2016 election year, in which he told the future president, "We are here to deliver your message."[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group#cite_note-twsGuardian888-125][125][/url] It was part of a pitch to have reporters embedded in the Trump campaign.
BBW12OG said:Relax Alice..... You think the media covered the Hunter Biden story? You think they are interested in any ties the Biden family have to China, Burisma or is it all made up? You should have stopped at your first post before your outed yourself completely. Pretty sure you got the ban hammer over there from a conservative mod if I'm not mistaken.... but you do you tough guy! Your defense of the media sums you up all too well.Pacfanweb said:
FYI, I spent the better part of 4 years laughing at and poking fun at the crocodile tears of the liberals as they gnashed their teeth at the thought of Trump being President.
You have never even read a post of mine at TOS if you think I spent a minute bashing away at him.
I'm as conservative as it gets, but I also have a VERY low threshold for bull*****
And that threshold has been crossed. I was here arguing with Civilized all during the runup to the election.
But we don't always disagree.
And you call ME a sheep? I'm not the one buying into every BS tweet or random nobody town councilman from East Jesus, USA that claims to know about fraud in another state.
I'm not the one falling in lock-step with anything that gets posted that I want to be true, with nary a thought of doing some research on it to see if it actually IS.
I'm all for any fraud getting exposed. Go for it. I've personally never claimed there was none. There was, and there always has been...but if you understand numbers well enough, you'd know that it's always there, and it's never been enough to matter. If that was the case, it would have certainly been found in the Florida recounts of 2000.
So when folks say "there's no fraud", THAT is what they mean. Not that some "Joe Mayor of Nowheresville" didn't stuff the ballot box at the local church. Just that there's not enough to matter, so basically there's "no fraud".
Should things like that example be investigated by local officials and something done about it? Sure.
Do things like that matter at ALL in the national election? No, not in the least.
So I'm not buying into the "Trump really won" BS.
As I've posted before.....all the media isn't "in on it". That's total horse crap. Is nearly all the media liberal and pro-Biden? Sure.
Would that matter to them if they found there was fraud on such a scale that it changed hundreds of thousands of votes?
Hell NO. At the end of the day, the news media cares about one thing: Money. And fraud of that magnitude would be the biggest story in history, at least in the Information Age. They'd not let partisan bias keep them from those $$$. THAT, you can take to the bank.
Well said. I'll add that the Biden family is compromised with China and we are in extreme danger with regards to China in a Biden administration. This was brought out from the Hunter investigation and the Bobolinski interview that 90% of the media pretended didn't exist or was Russian disinformation.caryking said:
Pacfan, this is what I think...
- Trump is the only President and/or leader in any capacity to call out China for what it is. I believe they are a Geo-Political terrorist country. This country has to move our supply chain somewhere else. Preferably, the USA. This country has to look at all China related people and look at their doing as we could be too late in a total control by Communist China
- This election, first and foremost, is not about Trump. It is about integrity. State Governors, SOS, etc.. have bypassed State laws to allow for the changes in our voting systems.
- Dominion software has to be outlawed. Some Democratic lawyers are arguing the software is proprietary; therefore, lawyers on the Trump team should not have access into them. Really, this is our Damn election, not Dominion's... oh, and by the way, is primarily owned by China.
- I do believe we have significant evidence of fraud, irregularities, or whatever one wants to call it. Too many things have been brought up not to believe it
- At the end of all this, will it overturn the election? No idea...
In summary, my biggest challenge to this election is that we lose a warrior against China. Biden's family hasn't shown me where they recognize China as a threat!
My thoughts...
