#Pack9 Victory Over Cancer game April 11 vs Duke

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11:33a, 4/6/26
One of the most special days of the year is back!

NC State Baseball's third annual Victory Over Cancer game is set for April 11th against Duke. Join us and help make a difference by donating today.

Donate: v.org/pack9
: bit.ly/4d0n2Dh

We are just five days away from our Victory over Cancer game!

Help us fight pediatric cancer and reach our $60,000 goal by donating to the @TheVFoundation.

Donate: v.org/pack9
: bit.ly/4d0n2Dh



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Now is your chance to own a piece of NC State Baseball while supporting a great cause!

The Victory Over Cancer auction is now live. Every bid will support the @TheVFoundation through April 11th. Follow the link below, and these items can be yours!

: bit.ly/3OeSIul

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11:39a, 4/8/26
Great cause. 4 in a row! Teams fixin ta go on a run!!
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3:25p, 4/9/26
What's the word on Dudan? Not in the rotation this weekend. His exit from the game Saturday looked a little odd in my opinion and I was wondering if something was wrong.
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3:30p, 4/9/26
Reliever moved to starter who has already thrown more innings than his 1st two seasons. Mismanagement of a high level arm. Hate it for him, especially in draft year.
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In reply to Pack92036 • 3:40p, 4/9/26
Brutal to lead the acc in innings and then this happens on pitch 116 of an outing. Is he out for multiple weeks?

RPI is in trouble already, now at risk of losing 2 of 3 at home to #103
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4:21p, 4/9/26
IMO only, I would be shocked if he ever throws again for Pack9.
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4:48p, 4/9/26
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Some of it got edited out I think but we talked about it on the pod. Could see this coming after the way he left on Saturday. Heartbreaker
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In reply to EthanBarry • 5:23p, 4/9/26
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Some of it got edited out I think but we talked about it on the pod. Could see this coming after the way he left on Saturday. Heartbreaker


Yep you could see his reaction after his last pitch and immediately knew something was wrong. Unbelievable
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In reply to Pack92036 • 5:29p, 4/9/26
Pack92036 said:
Reliever moved to starter who has already thrown more innings than his 1st two seasons. Mismanagement of a high level arm. Hate it for him, especially in draft year.

how was it mismamanged? what would someone have done better?
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5:46p, 4/9/26
I don't know much about baseball. IMO limit him to a max of 90 pitches max per start.
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In reply to seapineswolf • 5:57p, 4/9/26
seapineswolf said:
Pack92036 said:
Reliever moved to starter who has already thrown more innings than his 1st two seasons. Mismanagement of a high level arm. Hate it for him, especially in draft year.

how was it mismamanged? what would someone have done better?


In my experience with arm injuries it wasn't the 116th pitch of that game that did it. Not knowing the injury or being a doctor. But from my understanding if it wasn't the 116th pitch of this game it would have been the 30th pitch of the next.
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In reply to PGAWolf • 6:03p, 4/9/26
PGAWolf said:
seapineswolf said:
Pack92036 said:
Reliever moved to starter who has already thrown more innings than his 1st two seasons. Mismanagement of a high level arm. Hate it for him, especially in draft year.

how was it mismamanged? what would someone have done better?


In my experience with arm injuries it wasn't the 116th pitch of that game that did it. Not knowing the injury or being a doctor. But from my understanding if it wasn't the 116th pitch of this game it would have been the 30th pitch of the next.

so are you saying it was kind of inevitable?

I know people like to blame Elliott for everything, so I was just checking...

he has always seemed to take a very conservative approach, including holding marohn out earlier this year when he wanted to pitch, to be careful with him
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In reply to seapineswolf • 6:21p, 4/9/26
seapineswolf said:
PGAWolf said:
seapineswolf said:
Pack92036 said:
Reliever moved to starter who has already thrown more innings than his 1st two seasons. Mismanagement of a high level arm. Hate it for him, especially in draft year.

how was it mismamanged? what would someone have done better?


In my experience with arm injuries it wasn't the 116th pitch of that game that did it. Not knowing the injury or being a doctor. But from my understanding if it wasn't the 116th pitch of this game it would have been the 30th pitch of the next.

so are you saying it was kind of inevitable?

I know people like to blame Elliott for everything, so I was just checking...

he has always seemed to take a very conservative approach, including holding marohn out earlier this year when he wanted to pitch, to be careful with him


Keep in mind I am saying this without knowing what the problem is, he could be back tomorrow for all I know.

This is just a general statement about arm injuries
It's like a rubber band. Every pitch stretches it, and over time it can get weaker, so the pitch where it tears isn't what caused it, it's just when it finally gives out

Combine that with Dudan is a slider heavy guy. Has been his whole career. Sliders are the most taxing on the arm.
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In reply to PGAWolf • 9:06p, 4/9/26
PGAWolf said:
seapineswolf said:
PGAWolf said:
seapineswolf said:
Pack92036 said:
Reliever moved to starter who has already thrown more innings than his 1st two seasons. Mismanagement of a high level arm. Hate it for him, especially in draft year.

how was it mismamanged? what would someone have done better?


In my experience with arm injuries it wasn't the 116th pitch of that game that did it. Not knowing the injury or being a doctor. But from my understanding if it wasn't the 116th pitch of this game it would have been the 30th pitch of the next.

so are you saying it was kind of inevitable?

I know people like to blame Elliott for everything, so I was just checking...

he has always seemed to take a very conservative approach, including holding marohn out earlier this year when he wanted to pitch, to be careful with him


Keep in mind I am saying this without knowing what the problem is, he could be back tomorrow for all I know.

This is just a general statement about arm injuries
It's like a rubber band. Every pitch stretches it, and over time it can get weaker, so the pitch where it tears isn't what caused it, it's just when it finally gives out

Combine that with Dudan is a slider heavy guy. Has been his whole career. Sliders are the most taxing on the arm.


That's why you see so many guys in the minors kept to strict inning limits. Teams have learned to baby those guys along and then keep them on hard pitch counts once they get into the show.
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In reply to seapineswolf • 9:08p, 4/9/26
seapineswolf said:
PGAWolf said:
seapineswolf said:
Pack92036 said:
Reliever moved to starter who has already thrown more innings than his 1st two seasons. Mismanagement of a high level arm. Hate it for him, especially in draft year.

how was it mismamanged? what would someone have done better?


In my experience with arm injuries it wasn't the 116th pitch of that game that did it. Not knowing the injury or being a doctor. But from my understanding if it wasn't the 116th pitch of this game it would have been the 30th pitch of the next.

so are you saying it was kind of inevitable?

I know people like to blame Elliott for everything, so I was just checking...

he has always seemed to take a very conservative approach, including holding marohn out earlier this year when he wanted to pitch, to be careful with him


You also talking about the same guy that let Rodon throw 10 innings and over 120 pitches multiple times. He will ride a pitcher if he trust them.

He got a ton of crap from MLB people for the way he managed Rodon. Was rumored a lot of teams had him off their draft board due to it.
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In reply to PGAWolf • 9:32p, 4/9/26
PGAWolf said:
seapineswolf said:
PGAWolf said:
seapineswolf said:
Pack92036 said:
Reliever moved to starter who has already thrown more innings than his 1st two seasons. Mismanagement of a high level arm. Hate it for him, especially in draft year.

how was it mismamanged? what would someone have done better?


In my experience with arm injuries it wasn't the 116th pitch of that game that did it. Not knowing the injury or being a doctor. But from my understanding if it wasn't the 116th pitch of this game it would have been the 30th pitch of the next.

so are you saying it was kind of inevitable?

I know people like to blame Elliott for everything, so I was just checking...

he has always seemed to take a very conservative approach, including holding marohn out earlier this year when he wanted to pitch, to be careful with him


Keep in mind I am saying this without knowing what the problem is, he could be back tomorrow for all I know.

This is just a general statement about arm injuries
It's like a rubber band. Every pitch stretches it, and over time it can get weaker, so the pitch where it tears isn't what caused it, it's just when it finally gives out

Combine that with Dudan is a slider heavy guy. Has been his whole career. Sliders are the most taxing on the arm.


To add to this, I'm not sure the human arm is meant to withstand the torque of throwing 95+ mph thousands of times, year after year. TJ is more and more prevalent and it sucks to see the way Avent and Chrysler run these pitchers into the ground. Recruit better bullpen arms. The game really needs more Greg Madduxs and less Randy Johnsons.
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