Pack 9 (4-0)vs. Princeton (0-1)2/20-2/22 double header

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wilmwolf
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A close review goes against us. It's definitely baseball season.
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Good to get out of it but did Luke boot that ball the guy scored on?
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ICW Wolf
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Alex Gee said:

ICW Wolf said:

Alex Gee said:

Nance is in the right spot. If there's any program's fanbase in the country that should see the value in bullpen arms, then it should be NC State. State's "closer" has almost always thrown a similar number of innings as the 3rd starter.

FSU is the best example of why you need a bullpen. 3 starters have been really good over the past 2 years, but they've lost a ton of games from the 6th inning onwards.

Nance is still going to get a ton of innings - being able to choose the spot into which he's used is invaluable in locking down wins.


How many did Dudan throw last year. Your comment is as if you are the authority here. There is certainly room for debate on this topic.

First off, can't even believe I'm responding to you at this point.

Nance & Shaffner were 1a/1b as State's best guys out of the bullpen last year and threw 54 & 37 respectively. Shaffner with more bounce back & Nance with more length.

2 years ago it was Dudan throwing 38, but you also had SVD throw 37 in an abbreviated season + Coop throwing 42

You can keep going. Lawson & Fritton, Villaman & Lawson, Justice & Villaman

I'd say this year it will probably be Nance and Hemrick as the two names we talk about eat a ton of innings in big relief spots.

But numbers aren't real. And neither are results.


You said it - 38 innings for Dudan 2 years ago. I am not removing potentially my best starter for 38 innings out of the pen. A starter will throw upwards of 80-100 without looking.
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Alex Gee
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ICW Wolf said:

Alex Gee said:

ICW Wolf said:

Alex Gee said:

Nance is in the right spot. If there's any program's fanbase in the country that should see the value in bullpen arms, then it should be NC State. State's "closer" has almost always thrown a similar number of innings as the 3rd starter.

FSU is the best example of why you need a bullpen. 3 starters have been really good over the past 2 years, but they've lost a ton of games from the 6th inning onwards.

Nance is still going to get a ton of innings - being able to choose the spot into which he's used is invaluable in locking down wins.


How many did Dudan throw last year. Your comment is as if you are the authority here. There is certainly room for debate on this topic.

First off, can't even believe I'm responding to you at this point.

Nance & Shaffner were 1a/1b as State's best guys out of the bullpen last year and threw 54 & 37 respectively. Shaffner with more bounce back & Nance with more length.

2 years ago it was Dudan throwing 38, but you also had SVD throw 37 in an abbreviated season + Coop throwing 42

You can keep going. Lawson & Fritton, Villaman & Lawson, Justice & Villaman

I'd say this year it will probably be Nance and Hemrick as the two names we talk about eat a ton of innings in big relief spots.

But numbers aren't real. And neither are results.


You said it - 38 innings for Dudan 2 years ago. I am not removing potentially my best starter for 38 innings out of the pen. A starter will throw upwards of 80-100 without looking.

I was wrong. It was 48.

And you should look, State's third starter has consistently thrown 60-65innings going back at least 6 seasons with 2021 being the exception
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Well this isn't an ideal start
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Ty Head is such a smart ballplayer
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So they let him do that same pickoff move for 2 years and now they are going to start calling it?
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wilmwolf
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Yeah, I can't see how these balks are any different than the pick off move he's always had. They haven't shown a real good angle of one yet, but looks the same as it always does to me.
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I40Wolf
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wilmwolf said:

Yeah, I can't see how these balks are any different than the pick off move he's always had. They haven't shown a real good angle of one yet, but looks the same as it always does to me.


Haven't figured out the 68 mph breaking ball.
Wbtaylor
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I know it's early and we are trying a lot of different things but haven't seen a lot from Rhett. Thought Wiggins looked good in PR. Wondering how long we stick with Rhett.
wbkook
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McHugh BOOM!!!

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Slobbering_Wolf said:

Well this isn't an ideal start

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Wbtaylor said:

I know it's early and we are trying a lot of different things but haven't seen a lot from Rhett. Thought Wiggins looked good in PR. Wondering how long we stick with Rhett.


Likely because of his play in LF, that ball he ran down Wednesday vs Winthrop was impressive
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Tomas93
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I did not realize Des our former OC was Aiden's dad. Interesting.
Tomas93
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Pull him now before runs score?
Alex Gee
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Great fight by AK47 right there.
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Tomas93 said:

Pull him now before runs score?


Negative
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Tomas93
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Impressive! That kid locked in. Glad I'm not the manager I would have pulled him!
SportManagementEngineer
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Kitchings might be the closer sooner than later
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FlockaWolf
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Let Wiggins get a crack at this guy
Glasswolf
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What's going on with Wiggins?
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Slobbering_Wolf
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Avent made a mistake there, you have to bunt him over with Ty Head coming up
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FlockaWolf said:

Let Wiggins get a crack at this guy


Or ground into dp on a 3-1 count
Wbtaylor
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Slobbering_Wolf said:

Wbtaylor said:

I know it's early and we are trying a lot of different things but haven't seen a lot from Rhett. Thought Wiggins looked good in PR. Wondering how long we stick with Rhett.


Likely because of his play in LF, that ball he ran down Wednesday vs Winthrop was impressive



That's great. He also gave one up on the ball down the line today that cost us a run and has given you absolutely zero with the bat.
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I don't like this move. I stand corrected
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SportManagementEngineer
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Ethan gotta have a huge grin after seeing Black strike out the side
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wbkook
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Just steal Nixon here
wbkook
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The nerds left that guy in way to long. Dalton Boom!
Alex Gee
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That was the opposite of a home run trot lol. He was moving around those bases.

Big time swing
wilmwolf
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I had switched to radio to walk the dog, so couldn't see the Bargo bomb, but it almost burst my eardrums when he made contact.
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Packamylase
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3 outs by our bullpen and we win Game #1.
wbkook
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Princeton only bring 6 pitchers to Raleigh for the weekend (1 starter 1 reliever for each day)?
I40Wolf
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wbkook said:

Princeton only bring 6 pitchers to Raleigh for the weekend (1 starter 1 reliever for each day)?


I was talking to one of the players mother and she said today was the first day outside for their team. Weather has kept them inside.
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That's E-3 IMHO. He's got to pick that. Should've been 6-2 if he did but got Black an extra strikeout.
wbkook
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I40Wolf said:

wbkook said:

Princeton only bring 6 pitchers to Raleigh for the weekend (1 starter 1 reliever for each day)?


I was talking to one of the players mother and she said today was the first day outside for their team. Weather has kept them inside.


You would think they would all be itching to get in then. Not sure what you're saving in bottom of the 8th. I mean if you bring in a guy for 10 pitches or so you can still use him in a pinch on Sunday.
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