Decrescio doubles to score two.

Sosa drive in a RBI on a out to make it 12-4

Fraasman flies out to end the inning. 12-4 B7

Alex Gee said:

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Back to back doubles right on cue lol.

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From your lips to God's ears. Lol. RBI fielders choice scores sosa. Think it's 12-4 for the pack heading into the bottom of the 7th

Would make sense to try Smith here?

12-4 T8

12-4 B8 Pack.

Who's pitching for the Pack?

Why is Dudan still out there?

Alex Gee said:

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Don't understand Dudan staying out there unless there's zero plan to pitch him Thursday and only use him Friday/Sunday

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Even if that was the plan, he's still your most reliable arm so throwing him for 2 1/3 on a Tuesday is odd.

Potts out for the third time in five days.

Wanted to boost his Ks total I reckon

Alex Gee said:

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Don't understand Dudan staying out there unless there's zero plan to pitch him Thursday and only use him Friday/Sunday

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Most likely feels good about Nance/Shaffner for Thursday/Friday

14-4 Pack B9

I guess if you had to win 1 of the 2 games winning at Wilmington is better for the RPI so that's a positive.

Good win. Great to SVD back out there. Carson Kelly looked good, too. Bats got some confidence going into the weekend.

Alex Gee said:

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Don't understand Dudan staying out there unless there's zero plan to pitch him Thursday and only use him Friday/Sunday

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I think that tells you Nance isn't moving to the rotation

Didn't get to watch was at the Braves game, win in the 10th, but sounds like a good bounce back game maybe.

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PGAWolf said:

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Alex Gee said:

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Don't understand Dudan staying out there unless there's zero plan to pitch him Thursday and only use him Friday/Sunday

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I think that tells you Nance isn't moving to the rotation

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Dudan has done the 2 day turnaround, midweek to weekend once this season. So there is a precedent. I'm not expecting any changes to the rotation but don't necessarily think this is an indicator of that.

I'm most interested in who starts Thursday with the opportunity to keep Dom on schedule the rest of the way - Stanford series starts on Thursday and then best case he'd pitch the opener of the tournament on a Friday as well.

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With the Thursday Friday Sunday series it would be a good "excuse" to go to Nance on Thursday and leave the Friday and Sunday guys in place. Plus with the extra day in between day games 2 and 3 it should be easier on the bullpen (Dudan pitching today). I think they should at least move Andrews back to game 3. But. They've kept the same rotation all year and I don't expect a change right now.

So how did SVD look?

I think Dom goes the next two Thursdays

I'm more than fine with Andrews sticking in the rotation as he's normally been able to get into the 3rd or 4th before things go sideways in his more rough outings. However, I just wish they'd have quicker hooks with him (or just kind of with the starters in general given the weapons we have in the pen that can give you length).

wroncsu said:

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I'm more than fine with Andrews sticking in the rotation as he's normally been able to get into the 3rd or 4th before things go sideways in his more rough outings. However, I just wish they'd have quicker hooks with him (or just kind of with the starters in general given the weapons we have in the pen that can give you length).

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Can I ask why you are fine keeping a guy in the rotation that is giving 3-4 innings as you say at the expense of having your best arm in the rotation?

I thought Smith would be worked in at least for an inning. That was a little disappointing. Good to see Potts continue to get some work though. We're going to need another lefty coming out of the bullpen on the weekend the rest of the way.

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StateFan2001 said:

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wroncsu said:

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I'm more than fine with Andrews sticking in the rotation as he's normally been able to get into the 3rd or 4th before things go sideways in his more rough outings. However, I just wish they'd have quicker hooks with him (or just kind of with the starters in general given the weapons we have in the pen that can give you length).

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Can I ask why you are fine keeping a guy in the rotation that is giving 3-4 innings as you say at the expense of having your best arm in the rotation?

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You keep saying this and I can't quite grasp it. Yes, Nance should probably be in the rotation if SVD and Consiglio can give you something out of the bullpen.

Marohn and Fritton have had sustained success against top tier opponents. Hell, Fritton might be the unluckiest starter State has had in a while in ERA terms when you look at the advanced stuff compared to his K rate.

Shaffner and Dudan have been lock down arms out of the pen in conference play. And Nance has been great recently, no doubt. But I don't think it's as much of a slam dunk as "your best arm isn't in the rotation".

Fatigue not considered, one game to win the ACC title, I'd start Marohn, Fritton, or Dudan in that order. Then probably Nance. And I'd want Dudan or Shaffner to close it.

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Obviously it is an opinion at this point based on the fact that we haven't seen him in the rotation. However, when you command 3 pitches at this point and I mean command and that includes a 94-97 fb, haven't walked a dude in weeks and has been already throwing extended outings it isn't a stretch to say best arm.
Marohn has been throwing it well but Dom has been a bit up and down and Dudan is exclusively a back end of pen guy throwing 1 pitch.

It really just boils down to that unless Nance can go 9, you realistically still need someone to pick up 2-3 innings if Nance can give you 6-7 innings as a starter (which isn't a given). Andrews has either been pretty great or not good at all in his starts with a lot of variability, but he's been able to give you at least 2-3 decent innings most of his outings. I'd like the staff to look at him more like an opener and at least keep the same structure in place with who is starting vs. coming out of the pen. Would just like us to be more willing to go pull Andrews for Nance or Shaffner if things start going sideways.

With SVD (and hopefully Smith) able to give you some innings as well, I'd just like us to use the bullpen more aggressively as a real weapon rather than trying to steal a couple extra outs of our starters.

wroncsu said:

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It really just boils down to that unless Nance can go 9, you realistically still need someone to pick up 2-3 innings if Nance can give you 6-7 innings as a starter (which isn't a given). Andrews has either been pretty great or not good at all in his starts with a lot of variability, but he's been able to give you at least 2-3 decent innings most of his outings. I'd like the staff to look at him more like an opener and at least keep the same structure in place with who is starting vs. coming out of the pen. Would just like us to be more willing to go pull Andrews for Nance or Shaffner if things start going sideways.

With SVD (and hopefully Smith) able to give you some innings as well, I'd just like us to use the bullpen more aggressively as a real weapon rather than trying to steal a couple extra outs of our starters.

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Yeah I guess I just don't know of any planet where you leave a guy who has a starter profile and in my opinion is your best arm coming out of the bullpen. Seems we are overcomplicating this discussion. Give Nance the ball on Saturday's and my suspicion is he will give you regularly 6 to 7 innings of outstanding work and then go give it to Dudan to close it. It doesn't need to be that complicated. As we all know, Nance didn't touch the ball last weekend and our 6th best guy (at best) had a hand in a loss in game 2.

Some pitchers don't pitch well as a starter. Some are just built to come out of the bull pen. Anyone remember Evan Justice starting 4 games in 2021? He then moved to the pen and the rest is history. He was lights out as a relief pitcher

StateFan2001 said:

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wroncsu said:

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It really just boils down to that unless Nance can go 9, you realistically still need someone to pick up 2-3 innings if Nance can give you 6-7 innings as a starter (which isn't a given). Andrews has either been pretty great or not good at all in his starts with a lot of variability, but he's been able to give you at least 2-3 decent innings most of his outings. I'd like the staff to look at him more like an opener and at least keep the same structure in place with who is starting vs. coming out of the pen. Would just like us to be more willing to go pull Andrews for Nance or Shaffner if things start going sideways.

With SVD (and hopefully Smith) able to give you some innings as well, I'd just like us to use the bullpen more aggressively as a real weapon rather than trying to steal a couple extra outs of our starters.

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Yeah I guess I just don't know of any planet where you leave a guy who has a starter profile and in my opinion is your best arm coming out of the bullpen. Seems we are overcomplicating this discussion. Give Nance the ball on Saturday's and my suspicion is he will give you regularly 6 to 7 innings of outstanding work and then go give it to Dudan to close it. It doesn't need to be that complicated. As we all know, Nance didn't touch the ball last weekend and our 6th best guy (at best) had a hand in a loss in game 2.

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We have seen Elliot do this in multiple seasons with this exact scenario. And its ended up in Omaha or the supers when he does. It's not surprising at all and i'd be shocked if he changes it prior to post season play. May change it up for a regional if we get a stinker game and need something goes sideways and we have to play 4 or 5 games but at that point it all goes out the window.