Just going to have Dom pitch his arm off?
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Last: 4 mo ago by Jtilley
Given our bullpen, it's not like we got a lot of options for guys that can actually throw strikes.
They needed to pull him about three batters ago.
ChemE94 said:
Given our bullpen, it's not like we got a lot of options for guys that can actually throw strikes.
Its 6th inning. You are going to have to go to bullpen at some point. Dom aint pitching 270 pitches. You got to pull him after 100 in 6.
The coaching decision to leave him in at 100 pitches cost us that inning. In the 6th we went from being about to break it wide open to losing.
Fourth time through the lineup this inning. Think he was at 85 pitches entering this inning, up to 116 now.
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Tried to ride our guy through the 6th. Got to a 2 strike count twice with two outs and UVA made some good swings.
Avent allows UVA to score 4 runs and UVA leads 5-4
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Glasswolf said:
Avent allows UVA to score 4 runs and UVA leads 5-4
Oh come on, Glass.
Agree. When a guy is at 100 pitches and starting to struggle take him out!Glasswolf said:
Avent allows UVA to score 4 runs and UVA leads 5-4
Avent has always reminded me of Bobby Cox. Hes really loyal to his guys to a fault. I respect it even if it doesnt work out all the time. But man it makes you shake your head cause it goes against the numbers.
Alex Gee said:
Tried to ride our guy through the 6th. Got to a 2 strike count twice with two outs and UVA made some good swings.
I'm fine sending him back out but I think you should have pulled him with two on and their best hitter up and for sure pulled him after giving up the three run homer to him. I don't get that there.
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Guys some of Fritton's best innings this year have been when he's over 100 pitches. He was still touching 95. Gets to a two out, two strike count and UVA makes a swing. The other team is allowed to make a clutch swing too.
State has not. They did.
State has not. They did.
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Jtilley said:Alex Gee said:
Tried to ride our guy through the 6th. Got to a 2 strike count twice with two outs and UVA made some good swings.
I'm fine sending him back out but I think you should have pulled him with two on and their best hitter up and for sure pulled him after giving up the three run homer to him. I don't get that there.
They had two runs. Dude hits a 94moh exit home run to the short corner. Ground ball for a base hit. They weren't banging the ball. He had him in a two strike count. That's a hindsight decision. Like 10th on the complaint list from tonight with 1-9 being offense
Alex Gee said:
Guys some of Fritton's best innings this year have been when he's over 100 pitches. He was still touching 95. Gets to a two out, two strike count and UVA makes a swing. The other team is allowed to make a clutch swing too.
State has not. They did.
He was laboring way too much towards the end of that inning. You get two on there after the first home run go to the right on right matchup. Fourth time best hitter seeing a guy who wasn't locating nearly as well.
Alex Gee said:
Guys some of Fritton's best innings this year have been when he's over 100 pitches. He was still touching 95. Gets to a two out, two strike count and UVA makes a swing. The other team is allowed to make a clutch swing too.
State has not. They did.
Yeah but thats a pretty outlier stat. Its going to burn you at some point. Baseball is a game that we have so much analytics on. Cant imagine College pitcher over a hundred Pitches 4th time through the lineup the card tells you to keep him in.
Alex Gee said:Jtilley said:Alex Gee said:
Tried to ride our guy through the 6th. Got to a 2 strike count twice with two outs and UVA made some good swings.
I'm fine sending him back out but I think you should have pulled him with two on and their best hitter up and for sure pulled him after giving up the three run homer to him. I don't get that there.
They had two runs. Dude hits a 94moh exit home run to the short corner. Ground ball for a base hit. They weren't banging the ball. He had him in a two strike count. That's a hindsight decision. Like 10th on the complaint list from tonight with 1-9 being offense
I just prefer going to the matchup there, that's high leverage situation and it burned you.
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Should we have taken Nance out too? 
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Should we have taken Nance out too?
Now we are just being sour.
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wbkook said:Alex Gee said:
Should we have taken Nance out too?
Now we are just being sour.
Chrysler is one of those coaches we shouldn't question, IMO. He pulls the right string most times at the right time.
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Should we have taken Nance out too?
Should have pulled Shaffner during your midweek game so you could have him tonight but I digress…..
Dom is good but you cant keep expecting him to be superhuman.
This is probably good for the long term. Avent will hopefully adjust for later in the season.
This is probably good for the long term. Avent will hopefully adjust for later in the season.
Wow- these middle relievers are doing so much better! If only avent had gone to them sooner!
ChemE94 said:
Wow- these middle relievers are doing so much better! If only avent had gone to them sooner!
Analytics says go to your best RP or the matchup in those situations, just not sure state has one right now and maybe that played into leaving Dom in.
Just can't make plays when we need them
Man this is the most non fundamentally sound teams State has had in a long while
Imploding. Heavner makes that play 9 out of 10 times.
Jtilley said:ChemE94 said:
Wow- these middle relievers are doing so much better! If only avent had gone to them sooner!
Analytics says go to your best RP or the matchup in those situations, just not sure state has one right now and maybe that played into leaving Dom in.
Just love the avent second guessing and nonsense that he cost us the game. The pen ain't been the strength we thought it would be and he was trying to ride dom to get out of the inning. Coaches are trying to make chicken salad out of chicken s h I t with the pitching staff at the moment….
ChemE94 said:Jtilley said:ChemE94 said:
Wow- these middle relievers are doing so much better! If only avent had gone to them sooner!
Analytics says go to your best RP or the matchup in those situations, just not sure state has one right now and maybe that played into leaving Dom in.
Just love the avent second guessing and nonsense that he cost us the game. The pen ain't been the strength we thought it would be and he was trying to ride dom to get out of the inning. Coaches are trying to make chicken salad out of chicken s h I t with the pitching staff at the moment….
My biggest gripe with Avent is by far he's too old school and hasn't adapted more to the analytics or data. It's hard to push the right buttons in every situation but there is plenty of information available that gives you the help. He went with his guy there and it might not have mattered either way with how bad this pen is right now.
For two teams that were supposed to be really good this year, both teams have played like sh*t this entire game.
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This spot used to be Pennington. Come on Josh
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Yeah that's about right
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