I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

avent vaccinated or not ? that nosey crowd can finally stfu now

So, since we had so many positive players, that in theory could have been positive when facing Vanderbilt, was Vanderbilt retested at all prior to the no contest?

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Wolfpacklife said:

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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Who determined contact tracing ? How would they even know at 2am who had been 6' from whom for 15 min ? Impossible . Why are we contact tracing vaccinated 18-22 yr olds at this point ? It affects 0.0000001 of people in their age group .Whole thing is absurd.

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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they should've held a press conference saturday morning and taken questions from the media. simple as that.

The stupidity of PCR testing asymptomatic- vaccinated players.

It's virology 101.

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Wolfpacklife said:

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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So contact tracing is more important than a negative test result? 19 of them to be exact

If there's an "outbreak" then all teams at the event need to be tested.

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If there's an "outbreak" then all teams at the event need to be tested.

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agreed, but you can read between the lines in their "official" covid protocol guidelines. "outbreak" is only applied in the world of each individual team. what happens to us doesn't affect the other teams. they've got to have a multiple positives among their own team first to trigger "outbreak" status.

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If there's an "outbreak" then all teams at the event need to be tested.

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This is what has me the most angry. They tested out vaccinated players, if being vaccinated does not clear you from having to sit or being a danger to everyone else, they need to be testing everyone.

Only NC State could be dumb enough to order the less effective and higher risk J&J vaccine for its athletes and staff, and then unlucky enough to have 4 of 6 vaccinated players test positive and cost us our best chance of a national championship in a generation.

So does anyone know what exactly we're fighting? In the beginning of the article Kendall says the issues between NC State and the NCAA are far from over......

Probably the never ending Dennis Smith saga. That dude will be collecting social security by the time it's resolved.

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So does anyone know what exactly we're fighting? In the beginning of the article Kendall says the issues between NC State and the NCAA are far from over......

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kmb717 said:

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So does anyone know what exactly we're fighting? In the beginning of the article Kendall says the issues between NC State and the NCAA are far from over......

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I didn't take that to necessarily mean we were fighting anything. There may be disputes about the bills. Who knows. Maybe he's talking about basketball. I don't see what we could be fighting at this point.

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So does anyone know what exactly we're fighting? In the beginning of the article Kendall says the issues between NC State and the NCAA are far from over......

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Simply put, the man. We're fighting the man, pal. They, like the refs, know who is supposed to win..

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BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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Wolfpacklife said:

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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So contact tracing is more important than a negative test result? 19 of them to be exact

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Brother, my daughter tested positive for Covid on a Sunday.

I tested Sunday Monday tuesday and Wednesday l, all negatives.

Finally tested positive Thursday. There's a reason one initial negative test doesn't mean anything at all.

Hell my doc told me I may not test positive for a week, which is why I don't think those non vaxed players were going to be allowed to return until maybe Tuesday or wed, pending all negatives.

Especially after apparently two more positives Friday am.

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Then what's the point of testing at all? We are testing players 1 day before the game knowing full well the tests don't prove anything one way or the other?

James Henderson said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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Wolfpacklife said:

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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So contact tracing is more important than a negative test result? 19 of them to be exact

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Brother, my daughter tested positive for Covid on a Sunday.

I tested Sunday Monday tuesday and Wednesday l, all negatives.

Finally tested positive Thursday. There's a reason one initial negative test doesn't mean anything at all.

Hell my doc told me I may not test positive for a week, which is why I don't think those non vaxed players were going to be allowed to return until maybe Tuesday or wed, pending all negatives.

Especially after apparently two more positives Friday am.

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So why isn't Vandy being held out due to contact tracing if negatives don't tell the whole story

I took the day with my family and puppy to drive up to Blowing Rock and do a waterfall hike. It was nice

I got home right about the time Rogers article was released

I realize now how emotionally invested I had become and how drained I am by all this, and I had only a handful of hours on my couch invested.

I can't imagine the sickness that the staff, players and families must feel to have had all this taken away like this.
Whether it was ultimately the right decision or not, the way it happened in "darkness" and when. I think it was clear we were maybe the best team playing, the kick in the stomach feeling must be really difficult to handle

So far, from all we've seen, our guys have done it with admirable class

James Henderson said:

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Wolfpacklife said:

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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Well, it said 8 traveling party members. So 6 were conformed players. 2 may not have been. 4 played Friday. You don't think we could have fielded a good team with all the players that were negative Friday evening? Plus whomever the non 4 were that played Friday? I mean we would have had guaranteed Murr, McDonough, Torres, Tatum, Johnston, Villaman, Waldelson, Soles...because they were negative. Hmm

James Henderson said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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Wolfpacklife said:

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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So contact tracing is more important than a negative test result? 19 of them to be exact

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Brother, my daughter tested positive for Covid on a Sunday.

I tested Sunday Monday tuesday and Wednesday l, all negatives.

Finally tested positive Thursday. There's a reason one initial negative test doesn't mean anything at all.

Hell my doc told me I may not test positive for a week, which is why I don't think those non vaxed players were going to be allowed to return until maybe Tuesday or wed, pending all negatives.

Especially after apparently two more positives Friday am.

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This anecdote is a crystalline picture of why PCR tests alone don't mean a dam thing.

It's why the clinical trials, designed by the FDA, to prove the efficacy and safety of the vaccines, required two prong confirmation of disease: Positive Tests AND Symptoms

The NCAA's testing protocol requiring the testing of asymptomatic and asymptomatic-vaccinated is a flawed protocol that is FUBAR.

BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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Wolfpacklife said:

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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So contact tracing is more important than a negative test result? 19 of them to be exact

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Brother, my daughter tested positive for Covid on a Sunday.

I tested Sunday Monday tuesday and Wednesday l, all negatives.

Finally tested positive Thursday. There's a reason one initial negative test doesn't mean anything at all.

Hell my doc told me I may not test positive for a week, which is why I don't think those non vaxed players were going to be allowed to return until maybe Tuesday or wed, pending all negatives.

Especially after apparently two more positives Friday am.

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Then what's the point of testing at all? We are testing players 1 day before the game knowing full well the tests don't prove anything one way or the other?

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Ding ding ding

Plus....its a freaking outdoor sport. Probably less than a 5% chance we spread to another team on the field. Hell, let us wear masks and that's lower. Faucci says so. Lmao

Posted in the wrong thread initially..

After waiting and getting all of the facts confirmed we have a better overall picture. Though we may not have all the answers, I wish people would pause and wait for everything to come out before blasting people.

Too dang easy to jump on Twitter and criticize our players and coach. It's shameful. Happens when we lose games too. Some people just can't help themselves.

Pack31 said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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Wolfpacklife said:

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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So contact tracing is more important than a negative test result? 19 of them to be exact

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Brother, my daughter tested positive for Covid on a Sunday.

I tested Sunday Monday tuesday and Wednesday l, all negatives.

Finally tested positive Thursday. There's a reason one initial negative test doesn't mean anything at all.

Hell my doc told me I may not test positive for a week, which is why I don't think those non vaxed players were going to be allowed to return until maybe Tuesday or wed, pending all negatives.

Especially after apparently two more positives Friday am.

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Then what's the point of testing at all? We are testing players 1 day before the game knowing full well the tests don't prove anything one way or the other?

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Ding ding ding

Plus....its a freaking outdoor sport. Probably less than a 5% chance we spread to another team on the field. Hell, let us wear masks and that's lower. Faucci says so. Lmao

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What a joke. If you are NC State, a positive test means you have to sit.......a negative test means you might still have it so you have to sit as well. Makes perfect sense

I asked and was told Vandy was not an issue.

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I'd still like to know why they wouldn't play a double header Saturday and why is State so mad if this is how it played out? Why didn't the NCAA say something if this is actually what happened?

I know they said Corbin did nothing but it's not like somebody would admit that on the record. His comments last couple days have been awfully fishy.

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He's cut from the same bolt of cloth that guys like roy and K are cut from. Lying and cheating just come naturally to him. F him, his school, and the ncaa. Just because it's been published doesn't make it so.

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I'd still like to know why they wouldn't play a double header Saturday and why is State so mad if this is how it played out? Why didn't the NCAA say something if this is actually what happened?

I know they said Corbin did nothing but it's not like somebody would admit that on the record. His comments last couple days have been awfully fishy.

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you really think vandy would've agreed to play a double header? you'd be asking them to win two games in the one day. no way corbin's going for that.

BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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Wolfpacklife said:

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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So contact tracing is more important than a negative test result? 19 of them to be exact

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Brother, my daughter tested positive for Covid on a Sunday.

I tested Sunday Monday tuesday and Wednesday l, all negatives.

Finally tested positive Thursday. There's a reason one initial negative test doesn't mean anything at all.

Hell my doc told me I may not test positive for a week, which is why I don't think those non vaxed players were going to be allowed to return until maybe Tuesday or wed, pending all negatives.

Especially after apparently two more positives Friday am.

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Then what's the point of testing at all? We are testing players 1 day before the game knowing full well the tests don't prove anything one way or the other?

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This is the point I am trying to make to my friends too. If you can test negative, but still have it, why test and play the next day? Test, keep players in bubble (lol), and play 3-4 days later.

BobbyCox95 said:

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Pack31 said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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Wolfpacklife said:

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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So contact tracing is more important than a negative test result? 19 of them to be exact

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Brother, my daughter tested positive for Covid on a Sunday.

I tested Sunday Monday tuesday and Wednesday l, all negatives.

Finally tested positive Thursday. There's a reason one initial negative test doesn't mean anything at all.

Hell my doc told me I may not test positive for a week, which is why I don't think those non vaxed players were going to be allowed to return until maybe Tuesday or wed, pending all negatives.

Especially after apparently two more positives Friday am.

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Then what's the point of testing at all? We are testing players 1 day before the game knowing full well the tests don't prove anything one way or the other?

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Ding ding ding

Plus....its a freaking outdoor sport. Probably less than a 5% chance we spread to another team on the field. Hell, let us wear masks and that's lower. Faucci says so. Lmao

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What a joke. If you are NC State, a positive test means you have to sit.......a negative test means you might still have it so you have to sit as well. Makes perfect sense

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Idk how to link but its come to light too that The county health depth in Omaha DID NOT recommend NC State be removed. In fact they said they saw nothing in their guidelines that would cause us to be removed.

The Health dept simply stated they would support the ncaas decision. So essentially the ncaa threw them under the bus, as to why we were removed.

There you go! That's probably why it said things aren't finished between State and the ncaa

James Henderson said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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James Henderson said:

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Wolfpacklife said:

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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So contact tracing is more important than a negative test result? 19 of them to be exact

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Brother, my daughter tested positive for Covid on a Sunday.

I tested Sunday Monday tuesday and Wednesday l, all negatives.

Finally tested positive Thursday. There's a reason one initial negative test doesn't mean anything at all.

Hell my doc told me I may not test positive for a week, which is why I don't think those non vaxed players were going to be allowed to return until maybe Tuesday or wed, pending all negatives.

Especially after apparently two more positives Friday am.

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Then what's the point of testing at all? We are testing players 1 day before the game knowing full well the tests don't prove anything one way or the other?

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Well a positive would prove something but with Covid the positive test can have a 7 day window from exposure iirc.

That's why I was shocked to see folks think a lot of these guys could be back if they were in contact tracing.

Contact tracing and testing isn't a one or two day deal.

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The team was exposed likely more than a week ago James. Jarrett was symptomatic as early as Sunday. He would've been contagious before then. Even accounting for differences in incubation period, the timeline isn't as far out as you are saying.