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MCLAMB: Reconnect The Bridge, Build A Better Park

July 1, 2021
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NC State stepped off the bus in Ruston, Louisiana, and prepared to begin postseason play in the NCAA Baseball Championships.

The regional, hosted by Louisiana Tech, featured two Power-5 schools, but it was the park that caught the attention of folks arriving from out-of-state. 

Having only been back in play for a few months following a renovation to repair damage from a tornado in 2019, Louisiana Tech rebuilt its park quickly and effectively. After the natural disaster, there was immediately a plan in place, and it was executed with expeditious efficiency.

Once the Wolfpack advanced to the Super Regionals, that meant a trip to Fayetteville, Arkansas to face the top-ranked Arkansas Razorbacks.

Big-time baseball means big-time facilities, and Arkansas has invested heavily in its program. Baum-Walker Stadium resembles a better-than-average ballpark for a Triple-A franchise, and it has many of the amenities folks demand from their fan experience. More additions to Baum-Walker are currently underway and coming soon, as being top-ranked is no reason to rest on laurels.

It is not hard to wonder what those schools would have thought if they had to visit NC State.

The Wolfpack baseball program has been in the news quite a bit in recent weeks, and that is not completely basked in glory, but it has created a palpable momentum.

Deep down, almost all who have even a remote interest in NC State know that what currently exists within Doak Field at Dail Park in terms of the facility itself does not suffice. Yet, for all the agony that seems to come from the ending of each of its seasons since 2012, the Wolfpack has produced enough successful baseball during that timeframe that it somewhat clouds that knowledge.

In fact, the results over the past decade have effectively glossed over the deficiencies so well that they remain, but that day is coming to an end.

NC State’s baseball program does not just need a better facility. It is also a program that has shown it deserves more.

There is banter and speculation about why improvements to Doak – or simply building something new – have not happened, but underneath the surface is a truth.

At this point, none of that matters, nor will harping on It effectively utilize the momentum to finally get the plan in place so that the job gets done.

And it will require teamwork. As a result, NC State’s athletic administration will almost certainly solicit its leaders in the baseball program to ascertain what its wants and needs are. 

It should not stop there. Donors will have their say, but fans – especially season ticket holders – and students, both current and incoming, should also have their voices heard. Do not be afraid to ask the faculty. They will have an interest in where things are built. Find out if they actually are sports fans. If so, and they do not go to games, find out what it will take to get them to come.

Be available to speak, but also be open to listening. This cannot just stabilize the base; it should also build on it.

Fair or not, the NC State athletic department has not been seen in the greatest light since Friday. So this is a chance – a huge opportunity – to not just build a ballpark but also build a bridge back to those who are most unhappy right now. 

If the athletic department does try, they will require a fair chance from their constituents to articulate the future vision properly. Administrators in charge cannot be dismissed out of hand before they present their case.

NC State showed what it could accomplish when Reynolds Coliseum was renovated. The school can also have one of the best baseball facilities in the nation if they are motivated, working together, and truly want it. 

As it relates to baseball at NC State, there is a team, its leaders, its families, its fans, and those in charge of putting them all in the best position to succeed.

There are currently a lot of wolves, but there is not a Wolfpack.

And that sums up the crossroads NC State is at. Everyone is embarrassed, hurting, and/or angry. The end of the season has fragmented things in many ways.

But if everyone pulls together now, the baseball program, the athletic department, the University, and those who love NC State passionately can and will come out this stronger than ever. It starts with collective investment in the Wolfpack baseball program. 

Reconnect the bridge to other Wolfpackers. Give NC State a better baseball park. 

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MCLAMB: Reconnect The Bridge, Build A Better Park

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Wolfpackrich1
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I agree. I will be a part of this.
caryking
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I'm curious, from people that know about other stadiums in college BB... Other than seating capacity, what is Doak Field missing to be on par with other top 20 programs?

Thanks
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gopack_83
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Good article. While this has been one of the biggest heartbreaks in NCSU history for everyone involved, the moments to follow are so critical.

If we don't use this momentum to invest in a better ballpark/facilities, enhance the fan experience at games, and continue to generate more awareness & excitement surrounding the program than ever before.. then that will be the biggest loss.

I know so many situations where folks head out to games simply because of the environment. The stadium is nice & fan friendly. There's shade/beer/good fan engagement/etc. State has the fan base that would thrive in an environment like that. I think the tailgating section like Miss St has in the outfield is such a good idea. And with Raleigh being a growing area you'd think having a nice stadium would generate so many beyond just state fans.

But this team hopefully will not just be remembered for their heroics on the field, but for the movement they created to catapult the NCSU baseball program into a territory it's never been before.
Bigwuf
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Well said, agree.
williewolf
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agree that a better park is desirable but not sure if the needed space is around doak to do a modern upgrade;

if new construction - - - where?
cowboypack02
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damn right
Rob McLamb
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pineknollshoresking said:

I'm curious, from people that know about other stadiums in college BB... Other than seating capacity, what is Doak Field missing to be on par with other top 20 programs?

Thanks
Off the top of my head:

Seating numbers, seating comfort, stadium ambiance, stadium setting, honoring of NC State baseball heritage, locker room amenities, fan amenities, different types of seating areas, better restroom facilities, stadium direction in regard to the sun (and setting sun), adding and taking from the school setting, better scoreboard, bullpens in sightline, better parking, and tailgating abilities among other things.
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Rob McLamb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

I'm curious, from people that know about other stadiums in college BB... Other than seating capacity, what is Doak Field missing to be on par with other top 20 programs?

Thanks
Off the top of my head:

Seating numbers, seating comfort, stadium ambiance, stadium setting, honoring of NC State baseball heritage, locker room amenities, fan amenities, different types of seating areas, better restroom facilities, stadium direction in regard to the sun (and setting sun), adding and taking from the school setting, better scoreboard, bullpens in sightline, better parking, and tailgating abilities among other things.
That's a heck of a list and spot on
Rob McLamb
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I40Wolf said:

Rob McLamb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

I'm curious, from people that know about other stadiums in college BB... Other than seating capacity, what is Doak Field missing to be on par with other top 20 programs?

Thanks
Off the top of my head:

Seating numbers, seating comfort, stadium ambiance, stadium setting, honoring of NC State baseball heritage, locker room amenities, fan amenities, different types of seating areas, better restroom facilities, stadium direction in regard to the sun (and setting sun), adding and taking from the school setting, better scoreboard, bullpens in sightline, better parking, and tailgating abilities among other things.
That's a heck of a list and spot on
I would not be surprised if NC State rates in the lower 10 percent among P5 schools in baseball facilities. They certainly are bottom 25 percent. I am not sure that SEC has any that are worse, and only Duke and BC probably have worse in the ACC (Duke can go to DBAP to assuage that).

Many, and I mean many, non-P5 schools have better baseball set-ups than NC State. What I saw in Louisiana Tech is miles better than Doak. ECU is better. I have been told Coastal Carolina is better (I have not been there for baseball). I don't think UNCW or Elon is significantly worse than Doak.

It does not take once in a lifetime-type of donor activity to build it. That is why I have never understood what has happened at NC State. It can be done within the context of building an all-around athletic program.
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caryking
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Rob McLamb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

I'm curious, from people that know about other stadiums in college BB... Other than seating capacity, what is Doak Field missing to be on par with other top 20 programs?

Thanks
Off the top of my head:

Seating numbers, seating comfort, stadium ambiance, stadium setting, honoring of NC State baseball heritage, locker room amenities, fan amenities, different types of seating areas, better restroom facilities, stadium direction in regard to the sun (and setting sun), adding and taking from the school setting, better scoreboard, bullpens in sightline, better parking, and tailgating abilities among other things.
Thanks Rob... it's been a long time since I've been to a game. From what I remember, with the property behind left field and some behind right field, you would think we could do expansion for work out facilities back there. The fan experience is going to be tough with so little room behind the stands...

Can this be done at the current location?
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

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Rob McLamb
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pineknollshoresking said:

Rob McLamb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

I'm curious, from people that know about other stadiums in college BB... Other than seating capacity, what is Doak Field missing to be on par with other top 20 programs?

Thanks
Off the top of my head:

Seating numbers, seating comfort, stadium ambiance, stadium setting, honoring of NC State baseball heritage, locker room amenities, fan amenities, different types of seating areas, better restroom facilities, stadium direction in regard to the sun (and setting sun), adding and taking from the school setting, better scoreboard, bullpens in sightline, better parking, and tailgating abilities among other things.
Thanks Rob... it's been a long time since I've been to a game. From what I remember, with the property behind left field and some behind right field, you would think we could do expansion for work out facilities back there. The fan experience is going to be tough with so little room behind the stands...

Can this be done at the current location?
It depends on what they plan to do. Simple renovations would be easy at Doak. If they are going to make it one of the best in the nation -- which should be the plan -- it may take starting from close to scratch to stay at that same spot.
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Wingscupped
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Is there another local field that could be used in the interim if they were to tear it down and start over? You can't build a new stadium over night. And based on James' list, it looks like a stick of dynamite, a bulldozer and a ground up approach is the only solution. Otherwise you are putting lipstick on a pig.
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Wingscupped said:

Is there another local field that could be used in the interim if they were to tear it down and start over? You can't build a new stadium over night. And based on James' list, it looks like a stick of dynamite, a bulldozer and a ground up approach is the only solution. Otherwise you are putting lipstick on a pig.


There are plenty. The USA facility in Cary, DBAP, DAP, Five County, and others.

For me, if that's what James thinks then he is right. Burn it down and start from scratch. NC State should give themselves a baseball version of the new Reynolds.
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Cotten
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I agree with the article and the posts. The list of needs is spot on.

Wasn't facilities, lighting if I recall correctly, one of the main reasons Tanner left for South Carolina?
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Cotten said:

I agree with the article and the posts. The list of needs is spot on.

Wasn't facilities, lighting if I recall correctly, one of the main reasons Tanner left for South Carolina?


Absolutely. NC State was playing postseason games in Wilson under Avent, which is inexcusable.
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Cotten said:

I agree with the article and the posts. The list of needs is spot on.

Wasn't facilities, lighting if I recall correctly, one of the main reasons Tanner left for South Carolina?
Lights were installed in 1995. Tanner left after the 1996 season
Pack98
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My little league field had lights before NC State had them. Lights were an issue, tanner had donors and still could not get improvements. Focus was on improving baskets, so he left. Worked out good for him. He won at USC.
TheStorm
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Pack98 said:

My little league field had lights before NC State had them. Lights were an issue, tanner had donors and still could not get improvements. Focus was on improving baskets, so he left. Worked out good for him. He won at USC.
My little league field had lights when I first began playing...
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