IPS IN 5: What Will Happen With Elliott Avent?

Two things can be true at the same time.

1) Avent has done wonders and deserves a lot of thanks for what he has done.
2) It's time for a new direction

It's probably time, however Avent did more with less then he's given credit for sometimes

EthanBarry said:

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65Pack said:

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The program needs an overhaul for the whole coaching
Staff…it's time for new blood.

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I disagree

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2 Omaha appaerance in the last 6 seasons. Would have had a great shot this year at full strength. Tons of promising freshmen on this year's team. Made a regional final last year. Just don't get why people think there's been some huge drop off the last couple years.

ICW Wolf said:

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If a change is made you have to have a search and id that process lands on Hart great but you can't just give the job without doing the right level of due diligence. As Ethan said this is a top baseball job. Hart is a fantastic candidate but that doesn't mean you don't look at the full landscape.

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Is it a top level baseball job though? I don't think we invest a whole heck of a lot into the program, I mean see how long it took to get stadium renovations started

kmb717 said:

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EthanBarry said:

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65Pack said:

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The program needs an overhaul for the whole coaching
Staff…it's time for new blood.

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I disagree

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2 Omaha appaerance in the last 6 seasons. Would have had a great shot this year at full strength. Tons of promising freshmen on this year's team. Made a regional final last year. Just don't get why people think there's been some huge drop off the last couple years.

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bUt hE HaSnT wOn a CHamPionSHip.

Don't get me wrong I don't always agree with everything Avent does or doesn't do. But I am very grateful for everything he has done for the program. NC State is a top 15-20 program over the last 15 years. He built that with hardly any support and resources.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side. Look at what's going on at Louisville.

Ncsu1050 said:

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ICW Wolf said:

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If a change is made you have to have a search and id that process lands on Hart great but you can't just give the job without doing the right level of due diligence. As Ethan said this is a top baseball job. Hart is a fantastic candidate but that doesn't mean you don't look at the full landscape.

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Is it a top level baseball job though? I don't think we invest a whole heck of a lot into the program, I mean see how long it took to get stadium renovations started

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It's currently a top program. I don't think it's a top level job.

But I guess that depends on your definition of top level.

It's probably the 8th best job in the ACC. So I mean technically it's probably a top 25-30 job nationally. Which sounds great but this isn't college football or basketball.

It would be a shame if Hart isn't given an opportunity. He seems to run so much of the day to day already, seems like he's earned it.

Will be hard to replace EA as the face of the program and as a closer in the recruiting process, but Hart clearly is an excellent baseball coach, so I hope he gets a shot when EA is done.

I hope Chris Hart gets a legit look at the position. He's poured 21 years of his life to nc state. After that I would look at Alex Sogard

Glasswolf said:

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I hope Chris Hart gets a legit look at the position. He's poured 21 years of his life to nc state. After that I would look at Alex Sogard

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Other than being a former player what about Sogard does it for you?
As I've said before, everyone wins at Wright State.

IMO, it should be Chris Hart and then let him/help him raise some money.

Dan Fitzgerald at Kansas is a stud.

Kevin Schnall at Coastal - but UScar is gonna offer him a big bag to take the job. We can't afford him and he's got better everything other than conference affiliation right now.

Cliff Godwin will of course get mentioned but the rumors (and have been for years) are that he covets the Ole Miss job.
He scares me bc he also seems reluctant to embrace the portal era fully.
And I also just don't like him. Haha


Let's not make this difficult. It's Chris Hart.

We discussed this a lot on our pod last night. EA is such a great ambassador for NC State. He is as red and white as it gets.

The results he has gotten and the talent he has recruited with our level of commitment to baseball is incredible. We just posted over the weekend how the UNC series was a record crowd for a series at a little over 9k people. Those SEC boys he is recruiting against get over 10k on some Tuesday nights.

I do think EA seems to dislike or be disinterested in raising NIL dollars. Now its a fact that he takes what he has and our staff identifies high level talent that can compete at an ACC level - but I think with EA's likeability he could raise the dollars that it takes to get to another level of recruitment and talent retention. I know several big donors that have had coaches from our school show up at their places of business over a hundred miles from campus, talk about a vision, present numbers they think they need to compete, - and I just dont get the vibe EA does that and I dont think he wants to do that. And I get it. But thats not the lay of the land now. We haven't even had a fundraiser dinner the last couple of years - didn't even do it after the last Omaha run. That almost feels like free money we leave on the table. Even if its $100k you raise - $100k goes a lot farther in baseball - it will get a SEC/ACC quality player on your campus. Part of that is due to raising money for facilities too I'm sure - but the bottom line is sometimes you can't even get a kid to come look at your facilities now days until you can give them a competitive NIL offer.

I dont have any wild aspirations we are going to outspend LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Florida State, and others in NIL dollars as a whole- but I'd like to think we can get to the point that if we can put our name in the hate for the most elite guys, and hold on to the ones we develop (i.e. White and Sosa).

NC State is a great job largely in part to EA and his heroes before him pouring so much blood, sweat, and tears into it. EA has a ton of equity in this program and he deserves to retire on his terms. And when he does, I hope he does something with the university because he could be valuable in multiple capacities. He's one of us - or maybe I should say we are one of him.

NC State is also a great job because we are in a baseball hot bed of a state, in one of the two best conferences for baseball in the country - at really the school, in one of few sports that our other in state foes dont really have a huge advantage recruiting over us. We've got superstars in MLB. All Stars, Team USA Members, Gold Glovers - it is a really really good job.