IPS TAKE: Alex Sosa's Transfer Decision

Has nothing to do with NIL

These are brutal during the week to try and listen to-can anyone say why he is leaving

Can't sorry

I have no insight here but the best I can come up with is kids are accustomed to moving around. He has 1 year left and is from FL so maybe he is just enticed by going back and spending his last year in FL somewhere. I will continue to say that you will get more program loyalty on average from in state guys than guys from FL or wherever.

FLWolf said:

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These are brutal during the week to try and listen to-can anyone say why he is leaving

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They didn't really say. Basically talked about what was talked about on here. Sosa was pretty poor defensively, above average offensively. NC State could have considered getting a catcher this offseason regardless.

But as for why he is actually leaving, they didn't go into it. Probably pretty safe to assume it was a factor of things- NIL, maybe lack of performance, etc.

Not NIL

Have they said how many full scholarships they are going to give out next year? 34 probably not realistic but Im assuming it will make almost as big of deal as NIL if not more.

ECU is doing 25

I think anybody who you project to play next year would need to be offered a full ride to be competitive. Maybe thr back portion of thr roster that is more developmental doesn't have full??

JCooke93 said:

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ECU is doing 25

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State seems to be slow on being transparent as to breakdowns of a lot of stuff. Some Universities have given a breakdown of how the school will divide up the Revenue Sharing. Whether they are going to fund the entire 20.5M allowed and how they will break that down. Revenue sharing literally starts next week. You would think that they would be pretty close to having that breakdown. Now add in the scholarship allotments you would think if ECU knows how many they are giving that State has some idea of what they want to do. Is the University just going to wait til they HAVE to lawfully release the budget numbers because they are a Public University?

At this point seems like we all are just guessing at money and scholarships that are available but that have a big deal to why kids are making decisions. Like in basketball it seems like they spent more than what was speculated. Thus adding a Van Lubin with a Williams. And thats with everyone beiing on full scholarships. Baseball seems like a huge variable of scholarship allotment. And that will have have a huge influence on who they will have a shot at bringing in and who you can keep out of the portal.

I agree - he should chase the money

There is no guarantee he starts if he goes to another top 25 program. You start slow and you could be on the bench.

wbkook said:

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JCooke93 said:

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ECU is doing 25

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State seems to be slow on being transparent as to breakdowns of a lot of stuff. Some Universities have given a breakdown of how the school will divide up the Revenue Sharing. Whether they are going to fund the entire 20.5M allowed and how they will break that down. Revenue sharing literally starts next week. You would think that they would be pretty close to having that breakdown. Now add in the scholarship allotments you would think if ECU knows how many they are giving that State has some idea of what they want to do. Is the University just going to wait til they HAVE to lawfully release the budget numbers because they are a Public University?

At this point seems like we all are just guessing at money and scholarships that are available but that have a big deal to why kids are making decisions. Like in basketball it seems like they spent more than what was speculated. Thus adding a Van Lubin with a Williams. And thats with everyone beiing on full scholarships. Baseball seems like a huge variable of scholarship allotment. And that will have have a huge influence on who they will have a shot at bringing in and who you can keep out of the portal.

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State has said (multiple times) the will fully fund revenue sharing. Giving details of where it goes does us zero good and would make us less competitive compared to those that do imo

tau06 said:

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wbkook said:

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JCooke93 said:

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ECU is doing 25

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State seems to be slow on being transparent as to breakdowns of a lot of stuff. Some Universities have given a breakdown of how the school will divide up the Revenue Sharing. Whether they are going to fund the entire 20.5M allowed and how they will break that down. Revenue sharing literally starts next week. You would think that they would be pretty close to having that breakdown. Now add in the scholarship allotments you would think if ECU knows how many they are giving that State has some idea of what they want to do. Is the University just going to wait til they HAVE to lawfully release the budget numbers because they are a Public University?

At this point seems like we all are just guessing at money and scholarships that are available but that have a big deal to why kids are making decisions. Like in basketball it seems like they spent more than what was speculated. Thus adding a Van Lubin with a Williams. And thats with everyone beiing on full scholarships. Baseball seems like a huge variable of scholarship allotment. And that will have have a huge influence on who they will have a shot at bringing in and who you can keep out of the portal.

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State has said (multiple times) the will fully fund revenue sharing. Giving details of where it goes does us zero good and would make us less competitive compared to those that do imo

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Other schools give break downs in percentages. 80% football 17% basketball and 3% all others for example. And again. Mostly in this thread the bigger deal is how many full scholarships will State baseball allot? That shouldn't be tough to tell folks.

James Henderson said:

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wbkook said:

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tau06 said:

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wbkook said:

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JCooke93 said:

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ECU is doing 25

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State seems to be slow on being transparent as to breakdowns of a lot of stuff. Some Universities have given a breakdown of how the school will divide up the Revenue Sharing. Whether they are going to fund the entire 20.5M allowed and how they will break that down. Revenue sharing literally starts next week. You would think that they would be pretty close to having that breakdown. Now add in the scholarship allotments you would think if ECU knows how many they are giving that State has some idea of what they want to do. Is the University just going to wait til they HAVE to lawfully release the budget numbers because they are a Public University?

At this point seems like we all are just guessing at money and scholarships that are available but that have a big deal to why kids are making decisions. Like in basketball it seems like they spent more than what was speculated. Thus adding a Van Lubin with a Williams. And thats with everyone beiing on full scholarships. Baseball seems like a huge variable of scholarship allotment. And that will have have a huge influence on who they will have a shot at bringing in and who you can keep out of the portal.

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State has said (multiple times) the will fully fund revenue sharing. Giving details of where it goes does us zero good and would make us less competitive compared to those that do imo

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Other schools give break downs in percentages. 80% football 17% basketball and 3% all others for example. And again. Mostly in this thread the bigger deal is how many full scholarships will State baseball allot? That shouldn't be tough to tell folks.

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All schools aren't going to do it IMO. Did UNC release their splits? I did see where they named the sports who would get rev. share.

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Has State released any info? Other than making the statement that they would spend the cap limit? Have they even "officially" stated that? Has Boo stated the school will spend 20.5m? Not saying they wont but they seem to be holding spending close to the chest. I mean Im not seeing the resson not to say how many full scholarships the baseball team will allot. Im assuming any number if scholarships added on the mens side will have to be off-set on the womens?

rev share and number of scholarships are different

I wouldn't release anything if I didn't have to. There is going to be a learning period on what works. I think schools that do not have great NIL will have to push more rev share money to mens football and basketball. It may be a little bit of a moving target.

I wonder how this plays out internally with coaches. Is there going to a little resentment if one sport takes some rev share from another?? Lot's of unknowns going on

It is imperative that we have at least 25 full ships if that is where ECU is. We know the SEC will very likely go all the way to 34 and I suspect several ACc schools will as well.

James Henderson said:

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wbkook said:

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James Henderson said:

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wbkook said:

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tau06 said:

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wbkook said:

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JCooke93 said:

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ECU is doing 25

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State seems to be slow on being transparent as to breakdowns of a lot of stuff. Some Universities have given a breakdown of how the school will divide up the Revenue Sharing. Whether they are going to fund the entire 20.5M allowed and how they will break that down. Revenue sharing literally starts next week. You would think that they would be pretty close to having that breakdown. Now add in the scholarship allotments you would think if ECU knows how many they are giving that State has some idea of what they want to do. Is the University just going to wait til they HAVE to lawfully release the budget numbers because they are a Public University?

At this point seems like we all are just guessing at money and scholarships that are available but that have a big deal to why kids are making decisions. Like in basketball it seems like they spent more than what was speculated. Thus adding a Van Lubin with a Williams. And thats with everyone beiing on full scholarships. Baseball seems like a huge variable of scholarship allotment. And that will have have a huge influence on who they will have a shot at bringing in and who you can keep out of the portal.

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State has said (multiple times) the will fully fund revenue sharing. Giving details of where it goes does us zero good and would make us less competitive compared to those that do imo

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Other schools give break downs in percentages. 80% football 17% basketball and 3% all others for example. And again. Mostly in this thread the bigger deal is how many full scholarships will State baseball allot? That shouldn't be tough to tell folks.

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All schools aren't going to do it IMO. Did UNC release their splits? I did see where they named the sports who would get rev. share.

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Has State released any info? Other than making the statement that they would spend the cap limit? Have they even "officially" stated that? Has Boo stated the school will spend 20.5m? Not saying they wont but they seem to be holding spending close to the chest. I mean Im not seeing the resson not to say how many full scholarships the baseball team will allot. Im assuming any number if scholarships added on the mens side will have to be off-set on the womens?

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I don't think anyone has spoken with Boo about it and he doesn't do a lot of media to discuss it.

I personally just don't think they feel obligated to tell everyone their plans, not saying they are hiding anything.

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Maybe this would be a good time for IPS to request an interview with Boo to outline rev share plans, baseball scholarships, etc - to the extent he is willing to share plans with the fanbase.

Alex Gee said:

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StateFan2001 said:

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It is imperative that we have at least 25 full ships if that is where ECU is. We know the SEC will very likely go all the way to 34 and I suspect several ACc schools will as well.

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I doubt the SEC goes to 34. They aren't going past 85 in football. That's pretty terrible ROI.

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I think 34 in baseball is a lot different than 85 in football but I guess we will see. You aren't going to get too many guys who are SEC caliber to come pay their own tuition under the new model. 34 really isn' that much for baseball - that is down from 40+. We aren't cutting football scholarships to get to 85 as far as I know.

I personally think, for State, 25-27 is probably the right number - just like we are seeing with ECU. The guys who will be contributing in a given year (say 20) need to be full ride and then you are splitting 5-7 ships over 14 guys from there.

Yes please

I don't think there is any benefit to share your splits.

Lakewolf said:

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I don't think there is any benefit to share your splits.

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Agreed, it only benefits the player/agent to use as leverage.

El Lobo Loco said:

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StateFan2001 said:

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Alex Gee said:

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StateFan2001 said:

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It is imperative that we have at least 25 full ships if that is where ECU is. We know the SEC will very likely go all the way to 34 and I suspect several ACc schools will as well.

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I doubt the SEC goes to 34. They aren't going past 85 in football. That's pretty terrible ROI.

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I think 34 in baseball is a lot different than 85 in football but I guess we will see. You aren't going to get too many guys who are SEC caliber to come pay their own tuition under the new model. 34 really isn' that much for baseball - that is down from 40+. We aren't cutting football scholarships to get to 85 as far as I know.

I personally think, for State, 25-27 is probably the right number - just like we are seeing with ECU. The guys who will be contributing in a given year (say 20) need to be full ride and then you are splitting 5-7 ships over 14 guys from there.

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Not sure where you get your data, but the limit on baseball scholarships is going from 11.7 to 34. That seems like a significant change.

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Yeah I think you know what I mean. Roster sizes are decreasing in baseball. Football is not decreasing in terms of scholarships available.

James Henderson said:

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StateFan2001 said:

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Alex Gee said:

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StateFan2001 said:

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It is imperative that we have at least 25 full ships if that is where ECU is. We know the SEC will very likely go all the way to 34 and I suspect several ACc schools will as well.

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I doubt the SEC goes to 34. They aren't going past 85 in football. That's pretty terrible ROI.

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I think 34 in baseball is a lot different than 85 in football but I guess we will see. You aren't going to get too many guys who are SEC caliber to come pay their own tuition under the new model. 34 really isn' that much for baseball - that is down from 40+. We aren't cutting football scholarships to get to 85 as far as I know.

I personally think, for State, 25-27 is probably the right number - just like we are seeing with ECU. The guys who will be contributing in a given year (say 20) need to be full ride and then you are splitting 5-7 ships over 14 guys from there.

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It's not down from 40 its up from 11.7 and remember every ship you add comes out of Rev. share so if it's 25K plus, well 22 baseball scholarshipts to get to 34 would be approx. 550K out of the rev share #.

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I said I am good with 25-27 but I am good either way with $500k of rev share going to baseball in the form of scholarships.

SEC is not going 34 in baseball -most are going upper 20's

Remember, every scholarship you add in men's baseball/football/basketball, you must add on the woman's side. Football already bumps many programs 10-20 scholarships.

Woman's sports will add in scholarship numbers but not rev share money

rwwalsh said:

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Lakewolf said:

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I don't think there is any benefit to share your splits.

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Agreed, it only benefits the player/agent to use as leverage.

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BUt iF WE dOn"T KnOW thE SPlitS, HoW DO we KNoW tHEy arE GOinG AlL In?!$?

Lakewolf said:

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I don't think there is any benefit to share your splits.

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At some point they have to show something. Its a public university and as such have to file their financials. I am also guessing some reporter out there will be FOIA most of these universities to get a breakdown.