9:10.07

Chimel 6th
9:16.26

Bush 9th
9:17.35

Didn't want to hear this...the announcer says twice here (at end of race and just after race is over) that this will be Tuohy's last indoor championships in college. Guess he knows something that hasn't been made public yet by Coach Henes or Tuohy herself? And why would he be in a position to announce something like this, when no announcement has been made by Tuohy or anyone with NC State?

Maybe this announcer was just confused...he also referred to Tuohy as a "senior" right as she crossed the finish. These announcers were making all kinds of errors...he botched Olivia Markezich's last name right after that, and then incorrectly said that "Tuohy was the only one of the 3 NC State runners to score" in this race. Of course, Kelsey Chmiel scored with her 7th place finish.

The announcer never fails to disappoint. Is it Carrie Tollefson? Same as last year where she continually made the wrong observations.

toddl said:

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The announcer never fails to disappoint. Is it Carrie Tollefson? Same as last year where she continually made the wrong observations.

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The male announcer. I think it was Dwight Stones.

Bringing all the hardware back to Raleigh🏆🏆

Relive the moment Katelyn Tuohy won her second National Championship of the weekend!!#WolfpackTF - #GoPack pic.twitter.com/xt9BMqL8xX

— Pack Track & Field and Cross Country (@Wolfpack_TFXC) March 12, 2023

GuerrillaPack said:

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toddl said:

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The announcer never fails to disappoint. Is it Carrie Tollefson? Same as last year where she continually made the wrong observations.

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The male announcer. I think it was Dwight Stones.

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He's the same as Dan O'Brien who made the weird comments at Millrose about Tuohy. They are legends in their events but know very little about others. And the distance runners they do get for announcing are usually pretty ditzy or not good filling air time. Though i did think Kyle Merber was good at NCAA cross nationals.

I hope someone convinces Galen Rupp to announce after his career is done. I watched the high school Nike team XC Nationals and thought he was really good.

But to your larger point, with my fandom I of course selfishly hope Tuohy exhausts her eligbility her and runs every season she can. But if she has a goal of qualifying for Paris '24, it might be best for her to go pro after XC next year so she can open and time her seasons properly to peak for US trials and the Olympics.

Congratulations to Katelyn Tuohy again. What a talent we have in Raleigh right now. She dominated again when it came to crunch time. Way to go young lady. As I said last night, you make Wolfpack Nation tremendously proud with your efforts and are a great teammate and representative of N. C. State!!

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But to your larger point, with my fandom I of course selfishly hope Tuohy exhausts her eligbility her and runs every season she can. But if she has a goal of qualifying for Paris '24, it might be best for her to go pro after XC next year so she can open and time her seasons properly to peak for US trials and the Olympics.

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That definitely seems like a good possibility - that she could skip the indoors and outdoors in the spring of 2024 in preparation for the Olympics. I'd love to see her at NC State as long as possible as well, mainly for cross country and the pursuit of more team national championships. It seems almost certain that she will be back for the fall of 2023 for cross country, and trying for the 3-peat. And this seems somewhat unlikely, but she would have another year of XC eligibility left after that and could come back for a potential 4-peat in the fall of 2024, a few months after the Olympics...and then turn pro after that. She has talked in many interviews how much she loves cross country and being part of a team...so she may not be able to resist using all of her eligibility, and not missing out on one last season of collegiate cross country.

GuerrillaPack said:

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jadawson said:

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But to your larger point, with my fandom I of course selfishly hope Tuohy exhausts her eligbility her and runs every season she can. But if she has a goal of qualifying for Paris '24, it might be best for her to go pro after XC next year so she can open and time her seasons properly to peak for US trials and the Olympics.

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That definitely seems like a good possibility - that she could skip the indoors and outdoors in the spring of 2024 in preparation for the Olympics. I'd love to see her at NC State as long as possible as well, mainly for cross country and the pursuit of more team national championships. It seems almost certain that she will be back for the fall of 2023 for cross country, and trying for the 3-peat. And this seems somewhat unlikely, but she would have another year of XC eligibility left after that and could come back for a potential 4-peat in the fall of 2024, a few months after the Olympics...and then turn pro after that. She has talked in many interviews how much she loves cross country and being part of a team...so she may not be able to resist using all of her eligibility, and not missing out on one last season of collegiate cross country.

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It's very true, but i think her main draw to XC is team titles and not individual ones and Im not sure where our team is going to be in 2024 with Bush/Chmiel/Tynismaa out of eligibility by then.

If she does think we have a chance in 2024 she could just redshirt indoors and outdoors 2023 so she maintains eligibility just in case. With her success im sure shoe companies are throwing contract offers at her so it might be hard to resist.

jadawson said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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jadawson said:

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But to your larger point, with my fandom I of course selfishly hope Tuohy exhausts her eligbility her and runs every season she can. But if she has a goal of qualifying for Paris '24, it might be best for her to go pro after XC next year so she can open and time her seasons properly to peak for US trials and the Olympics.

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That definitely seems like a good possibility - that she could skip the indoors and outdoors in the spring of 2024 in preparation for the Olympics. I'd love to see her at NC State as long as possible as well, mainly for cross country and the pursuit of more team national championships. It seems almost certain that she will be back for the fall of 2023 for cross country, and trying for the 3-peat. And this seems somewhat unlikely, but she would have another year of XC eligibility left after that and could come back for a potential 4-peat in the fall of 2024, a few months after the Olympics...and then turn pro after that. She has talked in many interviews how much she loves cross country and being part of a team...so she may not be able to resist using all of her eligibility, and not missing out on one last season of collegiate cross country.

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It's very true, but i think her main draw to XC is team titles and not individual ones and Im not sure where our team is going to be in 2024 with Bush/Chmiel/Tynismaa out of eligibility by then.

If she does think we have a chance in 2024 she could just redshirt indoors and outdoors 2023 so she maintains eligibility just in case. With her success im sure shoe companies are throwing contract offers at her so it might be hard to resist.

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Yeah, I was just thinking about our team chances in 2024 for XC. If Tuohy came back, you could potentially have Starliper (if healthy), Rauber, and Grace Hartman on the team with her. So that would be 4 key pieces of the caliber needed to win it all. Then you just need 2-3 more to add to the mix -- and that seems feasible given that they've been landing at least 1 or 2 great transfers per year for the last two or three years, and/or if at least 1 or 2 of the freshmen from the classes of 2022 or 2023 can develop and contribute.

GuerrillaPack said:

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jadawson said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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jadawson said:

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But to your larger point, with my fandom I of course selfishly hope Tuohy exhausts her eligbility her and runs every season she can. But if she has a goal of qualifying for Paris '24, it might be best for her to go pro after XC next year so she can open and time her seasons properly to peak for US trials and the Olympics.

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That definitely seems like a good possibility - that she could skip the indoors and outdoors in the spring of 2024 in preparation for the Olympics. I'd love to see her at NC State as long as possible as well, mainly for cross country and the pursuit of more team national championships. It seems almost certain that she will be back for the fall of 2023 for cross country, and trying for the 3-peat. And this seems somewhat unlikely, but she would have another year of XC eligibility left after that and could come back for a potential 4-peat in the fall of 2024, a few months after the Olympics...and then turn pro after that. She has talked in many interviews how much she loves cross country and being part of a team...so she may not be able to resist using all of her eligibility, and not missing out on one last season of collegiate cross country.

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It's very true, but i think her main draw to XC is team titles and not individual ones and Im not sure where our team is going to be in 2024 with Bush/Chmiel/Tynismaa out of eligibility by then.

If she does think we have a chance in 2024 she could just redshirt indoors and outdoors 2023 so she maintains eligibility just in case. With her success im sure shoe companies are throwing contract offers at her so it might be hard to resist.

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Yeah, I was just thinking about our team chances in 2024 for XC. If Tuohy came back, you could potentially have Starliper (if healthy), Rauber, and Grace Hartman on the team with her. So that would be 4 key pieces of the caliber needed to win it all. Then you just need 2-3 more to add to the mix -- and that seems feasible given that they've been landing at least 1 or 2 great transfers per year for the last two or three years, and/or if at least 1 or 2 of the freshmen from the classes of 2022 or 2023 can develop and contribute.

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Yeah we could be a very good team in 2024 but i guess we'll see what the improvement is in 2023 for our runners. Sadly i just want to see Starliper finish a season at this point, outside of 2022 spring track she's struggled a lot in staying healthy. Rauber was good and improved all throughout last xc but didnt really show that shes a lock for all american/pushing top 30 like Bush has the last 2 seasons or top 10 material like Chmiel has shown. The way we've beaten New Mexico/BYU recently is that we've had mulitiple top 20ish runners and its hard to project that in 2024.

But i'll be giving updates on our incoming recruits probably tomorrow to close out the indoor threads and then opening up outdoor threads on monday and talk about my expectations/predictions for the runners so hopefully im right and good things are still on the way.

Looks like the @Canes found a @Wolfpack_TFXC multi National Champion 🏆 to sound the siren 🚨 pic.twitter.com/0svR6Ox1Ea

— NC State Athletics (@PackAthletics) April 12, 2023

🚨 The Champ in the building to get the @Canes going tonight. 🚨 pic.twitter.com/uH3iicNR4T

— Pack Track & Field and Cross Country (@Wolfpack_TFXC) April 12, 2023