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I appreciate you guys here, literally providing the only bb recruiting info on any State site. Even if it's bad news
Checked out the free day on PP. Man, that whole place is just dead.
At some point, I would love to hear your insight/theory on why KK just can't seem to land enough good players.

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For a long time I kept giving keatts the benefit of the doubt because he's a very nice and respectful guy and down to earth to everyone who meets him but the fbi excuse has run it's course on me. It's time to produce, I hope that Gannt and morsell are as good rothsteins "moles" say. He just posted that he predicts gannt to start over Hellems in his acc prediction. I think that's bs but maybe Hellems could be a spark off the bench

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I can't see Keatts starting Gantt over Hellems. Not after giving Hellems so much time and Hellems producing sometimes. He's been a huge part of the team. Then having a transfer come in and start over him his senior year.

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I tend to rely on sarcasm to help vent my disappointment and frustration with Keatte's continued failures. To that end, should I go with: "We can't expect to compete with the VCU's of the world" or the ever popular "KK Is a Winner" ?

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Is this wolfncarter?

^lolno, but I remember that poster.

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2025 6’2 CJ Cornegay is one to watch coming up the ranks in NC 2025 class starring for @2025Flight22

Lengthy skilled wing, good genes, dad Chuck Kornegay former pro player x standout at Villanova/NC State@Flight22bball #BIGSHOTS #CharlestonFinale pic.twitter.com/FLDjjBTE0Q

— BIG SH🏀TS (@BigShotsGlobal) August 14, 2021

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Dang I'm getting old, I remember his dad playing for Les Robinson

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I remember his dad getting screwed by NC State's academic requirements post Valvano that exceeded ACC/NCAA requirements.

Only kidding.

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Packfan8 said:

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I appreciate you guys here, literally providing the only bb recruiting info on any State site. Even if it's bad news
Checked out the free day on PP. Man, that whole place is just dead.
At some point, I would love to hear your insight/theory on why KK just can't seem to land enough good players.

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For a long time I kept giving keatts the benefit of the doubt because he's a very nice and respectful guy and down to earth to everyone who meets him but the fbi excuse has run it's course on me. It's time to produce, I hope that Gannt and morsell are as good rothsteins "moles" say. He just posted that he predicts gannt to start over Hellems in his acc prediction. I think that's bs but maybe Hellems could be a spark off the bench

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I can't see Keatts starting Gantt over Hellems. Not after giving Hellems so much time and Hellems producing sometimes. He's been a huge part of the team. Then having a transfer come in and start over him his senior year.

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Just play the best guy.

Plus, it takes years to learn KK's intricate, precision offense.

@iamjamieshaw with a Rivals Futurecast pick of VCU for Alphonzo Billups. Nationally ranked #117 in the 2022 Rivals150. Has a final six of LSU (former VCU HC Will Wade), Texas A&M, NC State, Oklahoma State, Pitt (former VCU HC Jeff Capel). #LetsGoVCU https://t.co/W5inZZIoXQ

— District Baller (@District_Baller) August 19, 2021

First one looks to have come in now

919 what’s good?? 💜💛 @TheHoopState @Coach_Rick57 @MasercolaMiles @rod_bridgers @BigShotsGlobal @JamieShaw5 @PaulBiancardi @TMarkwith14 @TravisBranham_ pic.twitter.com/Vwy8xohchl

— Brandon Gardner (@bgardner2023) August 19, 2021

#34 in 247 composite, we've offered

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919 what’s good?? 💜💛 @TheHoopState @Coach_Rick57 @MasercolaMiles @rod_bridgers @BigShotsGlobal @JamieShaw5 @PaulBiancardi @TMarkwith14 @TravisBranham_ pic.twitter.com/Vwy8xohchl

— Brandon Gardner (@bgardner2023) August 19, 2021

#34 in 247 composite, we've offered

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Hopefully carr can help us with this one, he's extremely good

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Packfan8 said:

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Westwolf said:

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I appreciate you guys here, literally providing the only bb recruiting info on any State site. Even if it's bad news
Checked out the free day on PP. Man, that whole place is just dead.
At some point, I would love to hear your insight/theory on why KK just can't seem to land enough good players.

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For a long time I kept giving keatts the benefit of the doubt because he's a very nice and respectful guy and down to earth to everyone who meets him but the fbi excuse has run it's course on me. It's time to produce, I hope that Gannt and morsell are as good rothsteins "moles" say. He just posted that he predicts gannt to start over Hellems in his acc prediction. I think that's bs but maybe Hellems could be a spark off the bench

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I can't see Keatts starting Gantt over Hellems. Not after giving Hellems so much time and Hellems producing sometimes. He's been a huge part of the team. Then having a transfer come in and start over him his senior year.

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Just play the best guy.

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There are two explanations to Rothstein's prediction of Gannt starting over Hellems.

1) he knows some very unique information about gannt that would make him confident enough to predict he would start over a senior who was honorable mention all acc last year

2) he's a national sports writer and doesn't have the capacity to accurately predict every single lineup for a whole conference, let alone multiple conferences. He made a mistake here (and probably many others) because obviously, he would make mistakes in this type of article.

Which do you think is more likely? Based on that answer, is it worth discussing?

2, no, end of discussion

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I appreciate you guys here, literally providing the only bb recruiting info on any State site. Even if it's bad news
Checked out the free day on PP. Man, that whole place is just dead.
At some point, I would love to hear your insight/theory on why KK just can't seem to land enough good players.

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For a long time I kept giving keatts the benefit of the doubt because he's a very nice and respectful guy and down to earth to everyone who meets him but the fbi excuse has run it's course on me. It's time to produce, I hope that Gannt and morsell are as good rothsteins "moles" say. He just posted that he predicts gannt to start over Hellems in his acc prediction. I think that's bs but maybe Hellems could be a spark off the bench

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I can't see Keatts starting Gantt over Hellems. Not after giving Hellems so much time and Hellems producing sometimes. He's been a huge part of the team. Then having a transfer come in and start over him his senior year.

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Just play the best guy.

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There are two explanations to Rothstein's prediction of Gannt starting over Hellems.

1) he knows some very unique information about gannt that would make him confident enough to predict he would start over a senior who was honorable mention all acc last year

2) he's a national sports writer and doesn't have the capacity to accurately predict every single lineup for a whole conference, let alone multiple conferences. He made a mistake here (and probably many others) because obviously, he would make mistakes in this type of article.

Which do you think is more likely? Based on that answer, is it worth discussing?

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He's already corrected it to include Cole in the starting lineup.

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919 what’s good?? 💜💛 @TheHoopState @Coach_Rick57 @MasercolaMiles @rod_bridgers @BigShotsGlobal @JamieShaw5 @PaulBiancardi @TMarkwith14 @TravisBranham_ pic.twitter.com/Vwy8xohchl

— Brandon Gardner (@bgardner2023) August 19, 2021

#34 in 247 composite, we've offered

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Hopefully carr can help us with this one, he's extremely good

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I hate that we had to lose carr because of his arrest. I understand it by the nc state administration but he was next in line for an assistant job. He's a helluva recruiter for his aau teams and beyond

I know a lot of us wondered what happened. I'm glad to see he is showing he's still a good guy and hope he can help us with kids moving forward.

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919 what’s good?? 💜💛 @TheHoopState @Coach_Rick57 @MasercolaMiles @rod_bridgers @BigShotsGlobal @JamieShaw5 @PaulBiancardi @TMarkwith14 @TravisBranham_ pic.twitter.com/Vwy8xohchl

— Brandon Gardner (@bgardner2023) August 19, 2021

#34 in 247 composite, we've offered

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Hopefully carr can help us with this one, he's extremely good

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I hate that we had to lose carr because of his arrest. I understand it by the nc state administration but he was next in line for an assistant job. He's a helluva recruiter for his aau teams and beyond

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Wait what? Fill me in. Arrest?

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nryanh94 said:

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919 what’s good?? 💜💛 @TheHoopState @Coach_Rick57 @MasercolaMiles @rod_bridgers @BigShotsGlobal @JamieShaw5 @PaulBiancardi @TMarkwith14 @TravisBranham_ pic.twitter.com/Vwy8xohchl

— Brandon Gardner (@bgardner2023) August 19, 2021

#34 in 247 composite, we've offered

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Hopefully carr can help us with this one, he's extremely good

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I hate that we had to lose carr because of his arrest. I understand it by the nc state administration but he was next in line for an assistant job. He's a helluva recruiter for his aau teams and beyond

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Wait what? Fill me in. Arrest?

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The charges were dropped so it really doesn't matter

2022 PF Chauncey Wiggins is down to five schools, he tells @On3Recruits.

Clemson, Georgia, USF, Maryland, and NC State make the cut. pic.twitter.com/CVG2bKZfFv

— Joseph Tipton (@TiptonEdits) August 20, 2021

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2022 PF Chauncey Wiggins is down to five schools, he tells @On3Recruits.

Clemson, Georgia, USF, Maryland, and NC State make the cut. pic.twitter.com/CVG2bKZfFv

— Joseph Tipton (@TiptonEdits) August 20, 2021

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Assume that means we get a visit

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2022 PF Chauncey Wiggins is down to five schools, he tells @On3Recruits.

Clemson, Georgia, USF, Maryland, and NC State make the cut. pic.twitter.com/CVG2bKZfFv

— Joseph Tipton (@TiptonEdits) August 20, 2021

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Assume that means we get a visit

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Not sure it matters, don't think we'd take him and Green

So is the thought Green, Phillips, and a transfer (or 2)?

Donald hand jr will announce top 7 tomorrow. According to his dad this summer we were still heavily involved

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Donald hand jr will announce top 7 tomorrow. According to his dad this summer we were still heavily involved

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4 star son of former uva player Donald hand. Don't think he's at the top of the list but definitely a good shooter

Class of 2022 four-star PG Donald Hand Jr. is down to 7 schools! Where should he go? @dhandducks pic.twitter.com/zAFbu8mPOj

— 336 Edits (@336edits) August 22, 2021

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Donald hand jr will announce top 7 tomorrow. According to his dad this summer we were still heavily involved

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4 star son of former uva player Donald hand. Don't think he's at the top of the list but definitely a good shooter

Class of 2022 four-star PG Donald Hand Jr. is down to 7 schools! Where should he go? @dhandducks pic.twitter.com/zAFbu8mPOj

— 336 Edits (@336edits) August 22, 2021

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That looks like a list of teams that if we put any effort into, we could win.

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That was my first thought too. How hard are we recruiting this guy? Without a whole lot of research, he seems like a tall guard that can shoot. At the very least that's intriguing.

I will be announcing my commitment Tuesday at 4pm est !👀

— AB3🚀 (@AlphonzoBillups) August 23, 2021

So vcu it is

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So vcu it is

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Yep he has already told vcu as of last week. Also Jamie Shaw released a podcast with Mike rhoades (vcu's coach) days after putting his future cast in. I'm sure it was an off the record conversation where rhoades told Shaw the same thing

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nryanh94 said:

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919 what’s good?? 💜💛 @TheHoopState @Coach_Rick57 @MasercolaMiles @rod_bridgers @BigShotsGlobal @JamieShaw5 @PaulBiancardi @TMarkwith14 @TravisBranham_ pic.twitter.com/Vwy8xohchl

— Brandon Gardner (@bgardner2023) August 19, 2021

#34 in 247 composite, we've offered

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Hopefully carr can help us with this one, he's extremely good

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I hate that we had to lose carr because of his arrest. I understand it by the nc state administration but he was next in line for an assistant job. He's a helluva recruiter for his aau teams and beyond

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Wait what? Fill me in. Arrest?

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The charges were dropped so it really doesn't matter

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well that's unfortunate that we had to drop him for something that was eventually dropped. Being goody goody two shoes has never gotten us anymore wins.

New 247 rankings are out. Seems like there was no articles about it but I noticed it today.
Green: up to 90
Billups: down to 143
Skillings: 149 (thought he would be higher)
Jett Howard: 40
Chauncey Wiggins: up to 135
Shawn Phillips: 152
Justyn fernandez: 205

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919 what’s good?? 💜💛 @TheHoopState @Coach_Rick57 @MasercolaMiles @rod_bridgers @BigShotsGlobal @JamieShaw5 @PaulBiancardi @TMarkwith14 @TravisBranham_ pic.twitter.com/Vwy8xohchl

— Brandon Gardner (@bgardner2023) August 19, 2021

#34 in 247 composite, we've offered

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Hopefully carr can help us with this one, he's extremely good

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I hate that we had to lose carr because of his arrest. I understand it by the nc state administration but he was next in line for an assistant job. He's a helluva recruiter for his aau teams and beyond

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Wait what? Fill me in. Arrest?

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The charges were dropped so it really doesn't matter

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well that's unfortunate that we had to drop him for something that was eventually dropped. Being goody goody two shoes has never gotten us anymore wins.

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I prefer to be a "goody goody two shoes" when a female is involved. But that's just me.

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Bingo

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New 247 rankings are out. Seems like there was no articles about it but I noticed it today.
Green: up to 90
Billups: down to 143
Skillings: 149 (thought he would be higher)
Jett Howard: 40
Chauncey Wiggins: up to 135
Shawn Phillips: 152
Justyn fernandez: 205

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A lot of guys I feel are underrated on this list. For me green has been overrated for the longest time but this summer he was pretty darn good. I think 70-90 is appropriate for him. Billups might just be my pet guy but he's underrated as well as Skillings. Phillips wellllll over rated he's lucky to even be a 3 star lol