For far too long, deceptions, misinformations, disinformations, have been the norm. It's time to take back our country…. Let's start be electing, for the third time, the former Democrat, Donald Trump!!
Civilized said:packgrad said:Civilized said:Werewolf said:Come on fellas, don't let guys like Civ distort reality. Think about what these guys risk to come forward. Support these patriots with your thoughts, words and prayer.packofwolves said:
IRS whistleblowers come across as very credible.
There will be 8-10% of the population that cannot be swayed. I don't waste time on these guys. They are lost.
Have you heard the RFK Jr nephew speak on his uncle? These types are the lost......a product of our education system, tabloid T and a woke society.
The ones we must educate are those middle of the road types. Conservatives and Kennedy Democrats.
LOLOL. RFK Jr. ???
RFK Jr. is a conspiracy theory-loving clown show that would have embarrassed the **** out of his Dad and uncle.
I understand why you latch onto him though.
You obviously haven't listened to him. He speaks to the left and people exactly like you who try to put labels on everyone to diminish what they say. You're a great example of exactly what's he was talking about.
"Conspiracy theory loving clown show". Same **** you said about covid vaccine skeptics. Such a good foot soldier.
Baaaaa
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Doesn't surprise me you like him. You fall for lots of people that hide behind the faux "just asking questions" bit when what they're really doing is irresponsibly platforming half-cocked conspiracy theories under the guise of intellectual curiosity or even worse just sitting on the sidelines sniping at the people out there doing the real work of trying to create things or solve problems.
You know, just like your posting style on here. Never proposing solutions or actually engaging in good-faith conversation or debate, just telling other people why their thoughts or solutions are stupid. Height of intellectual laziness.
The only reason you listen to someone that thinks MMR vaccines cause autism or diabetes or MS, the CIA assassinated his uncle and Dad, COVID targets white and black people but not Jews or the Chinese, other bioweapons are being engineered around the world that target specific races, etc. is for comedic value only.
The man is a loon and if his last name wasn't Kennedy he'd be dismissed as the loon that he is instead of platformed as a legit presidential candidate or at least a disruptive chaos agent like the right is trying to do.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/robert-f-kennedy-election-presidential-campaign-2024-5265d2b8
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/07/18/rfk-jrs-family-denounces-claim-that-jews-chinese-are-immune-to-covid-here-are-all-the-other-conspiracies-he-promotes/amp/
You tube. Kennedy grandchildren singing Timber. https://t.co/hDn3fnTEss
— Producer Girl (@blueyedproducer) July 22, 2023
I believe the majority of the Kennedy am children and grandchildren uphold their families legacy. There’s always one that was dropped on his head.
— Karmacat (@TallisHolly) July 20, 2023
Democracy, properly understood, is about disagreement and debate, about making public arguments about unpopular truths. Populism is inherently anti-intellectual, elevating emotions and gut feelings, denying the existence of inconvenient facts.caryking said:
For some reason, people like Civ, and for the matter, Hokie, can't stand the fabric of society, that is the populist. I think when the populist, of America, see a stink bomb, there probably is a stink bomb.
For far too long, deceptions, misinformations, disinformations, have been the norm. It's time to take back our country…. Let's start be electing, for the third time, the former Democrat, Donald Trump!!
packgrad said:
Irresponsibly platforming. Lol. Heard someone, may have been RFK Jr or Dr Drew, on a podcast recently that mocked this mindset. Science used to welcome all theories. They may disagree with them but it allowed them to question their position and defend it. Now people like you want to say people shouldn't be allowed to have opinions different than yours publicly, and if they do it's misinformation. You don't even think the guy is allowed to think the cia killed his father and uncle??? Lol.
What reasons do you have to believe bioweapons aren't being created to target races? You called lab leak theory a conspiracy theory. How is this different? Why is he a loon for thinking the cia killed his father and uncle?
This is intellectual debate to you? Mocking the man and calling him a loon.
Sounds more like the democrat playbook. Brand someone, lean into it, and keep reciting it until it's accepted as fact to fellow lefties. Same crap y'all do with words like cis.
Hokie, to a degree, we agree…hokiewolf said:Democracy, properly understood, is about disagreement and debate, about making public arguments about unpopular truths. Populism is inherently anti-intellectual, elevating emotions and gut feelings, denying the existence of inconvenient facts.caryking said:
For some reason, people like Civ, and for the matter, Hokie, can't stand the fabric of society, that is the populist. I think when the populist, of America, see a stink bomb, there probably is a stink bomb.
For far too long, deceptions, misinformations, disinformations, have been the norm. It's time to take back our country…. Let's start be electing, for the third time, the former Democrat, Donald Trump!!
I do not believe that the "fix" is to destroy every single institution that has been created nor do I believe they are all inherently evil and out to drastically change the US.
Tyranny at work!Civilized said:packgrad said:
Irresponsibly platforming. Lol. Heard someone, may have been RFK Jr or Dr Drew, on a podcast recently that mocked this mindset. Science used to welcome all theories. They may disagree with them but it allowed them to question their position and defend it. Now people like you want to say people shouldn't be allowed to have opinions different than yours publicly, and if they do it's misinformation. You don't even think the guy is allowed to think the cia killed his father and uncle??? Lol.
What reasons do you have to believe bioweapons aren't being created to target races? You called lab leak theory a conspiracy theory. How is this different? Why is he a loon for thinking the cia killed his father and uncle?
This is intellectual debate to you? Mocking the man and calling him a loon.
Sounds more like the democrat playbook. Brand someone, lean into it, and keep reciting it until it's accepted as fact to fellow lefties. Same crap y'all do with words like cis.
Yeah, continuing to question MMR vaccine safety is irresponsible as hell. Looney as hell. Deserving of mockery.
Nobody cares if flat-earth loons want to gather for their yearly convention at the PNC Center and "welcome" their "theory" that the earth is flat. Nobody dies from that "theory" as best as I can tell. I don't care if people want to pop off their nutso ideas about fake moon landings or shooters on grassy knolls.
Vaccine safety isn't that, though. People die when crackpots like RFK Jr. and other anti-vaxxers ramp up even more fear and mistrust and vaccine hesitancy and espouse their completely unsupported and unscientific and thoroughly debunked views that MMR vaccines cause autism, or that vaccine research caused Lyme disease, HIV, or the Spanish Flu, or that rotavirus vaccines are unsafe.
This is nothing but dangerous garbage, not legitimate "welcoming" of scientifically veracious "theories."
And it's not like he's standing up talking about new information that may actually be worthy of analysis. He's just recycling the same old tired and thoroughly debunked vaccine safety "theories" that he has been the last 20 years. And unfortunately, mostly because of his last name, people listen to him.
Go read about the upticks in measles rates and whooping cough worldwide from 2016-on due to declining vaccination rates and ask yourself why in the world kindergarten vaccination rates are declining when vaccines are safe and are more readily available than ever.
Go read about all the lies he's told about Paul Offit, one of the lead developers of the rotavirus vaccine, and Offit's work, most recently on Rogan, which as you know is the biggest podcast platform in the world. On top of his lies about vaccine safety that harm public trust in vaccines and institutions, his accusations about Offit culminated with death threats for Offit and his family.
https://pauloffit.substack.com/p/my-conversation-with-robert-f-kennedy
There's no way Rogan is going to have the knowledge to rebut these lies in real time, or spend any time researching the claims or clarifying the record after the fact.
That's irresponsible platforming.
And it's hi-****ing-larious that you're holding RFK Jr. up as some bastion of free speech. This is the same guy who thinks energy company owners and execs should be in prison and we should prosecute climate change deniers.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/flashback-robert-f-kennedy-jr-once-called-for-koch-industries-and-exxonmobil-to-be-put-to-corporate-death
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/rfk-jr-long-legacy-supporting-075942640.html
Between sex-assaulting, election fraud-promoting, democracy-demeaning ex-Presidents and looney grifter anti-vaxx hangers-on like RFK Jr. you guys pick they weirdest "victim" examples ever.
ETA: Almost forgot about accused sex trafficker Andrew Tate. He was getting held up as a cancel culture victim on here a couple of months ago.
As TOB said about the Cheats, "That's a triple play!" LOLOL.
Oh, RFK Jr is responsible for measles and whooping cough outbreaks in S Africa? Sounds like you have a lot in common with him in that you both are very free with your "facts" (also as evidenced by your transgender propaganda.) Lets look at measles cases in the US the last 10 years, as certainly you are not suggesting he is impacting cases worldwide.Civilized said:packgrad said:
Irresponsibly platforming. Lol. Heard someone, may have been RFK Jr or Dr Drew, on a podcast recently that mocked this mindset. Science used to welcome all theories. They may disagree with them but it allowed them to question their position and defend it. Now people like you want to say people shouldn't be allowed to have opinions different than yours publicly, and if they do it's misinformation. You don't even think the guy is allowed to think the cia killed his father and uncle??? Lol.
What reasons do you have to believe bioweapons aren't being created to target races? You called lab leak theory a conspiracy theory. How is this different? Why is he a loon for thinking the cia killed his father and uncle?
This is intellectual debate to you? Mocking the man and calling him a loon.
Sounds more like the democrat playbook. Brand someone, lean into it, and keep reciting it until it's accepted as fact to fellow lefties. Same crap y'all do with words like cis.
Yeah, continuing to question MMR vaccine safety is irresponsible as hell. Looney as hell. Deserving of mockery.
Nobody cares if flat-earth loons want to gather for their yearly convention at the PNC Center and "welcome" their "theory" that the earth is flat. Nobody dies from that "theory" as best as I can tell. I don't care if people want to pop off their nutso ideas about fake moon landings or shooters on grassy knolls.
Vaccine safety isn't that, though. People die when crackpots like RFK Jr. and other anti-vaxxers ramp up even more fear and mistrust and vaccine hesitancy and espouse their completely unsupported and unscientific and thoroughly debunked views that MMR vaccines cause autism, or that vaccine research caused Lyme disease, HIV, or the Spanish Flu, or that rotavirus vaccines are unsafe.
This is nothing but dangerous garbage, not legitimate "welcoming" of scientifically veracious "theories."
And it's not like he's standing up talking about new information that may actually be worthy of analysis. He's just recycling the same old tired and thoroughly debunked vaccine safety "theories" that he has been the last 20 years. And unfortunately, mostly because of his last name, people listen to him.
Go read about the upticks in measles rates and whooping cough worldwide from 2016-on due to declining vaccination rates and ask yourself why in the world kindergarten vaccination rates are declining when vaccines are safe and are more readily available than ever.
Go read about all the lies he's told about Paul Offit, one of the lead developers of the rotavirus vaccine, and Offit's work, most recently on Rogan, which as you know is the biggest podcast platform in the world. On top of his lies about vaccine safety that harm public trust in vaccines and institutions, his accusations about Offit culminated with death threats for Offit and his family.
https://pauloffit.substack.com/p/my-conversation-with-robert-f-kennedy
There's no way Rogan is going to have the knowledge to rebut these lies in real time, or spend any time researching the claims or clarifying the record after the fact.
That's irresponsible platforming.
And it's hi-****ing-larious that you're holding RFK Jr. up as some bastion of free speech. This is the same guy who thinks energy company owners and execs should be in prison and we should prosecute climate change deniers.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/flashback-robert-f-kennedy-jr-once-called-for-koch-industries-and-exxonmobil-to-be-put-to-corporate-death
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/rfk-jr-long-legacy-supporting-075942640.html
Between sex-assaulting, election fraud-promoting, democracy-demeaning ex-Presidents and looney grifter anti-vaxx hangers-on like RFK Jr. you guys pick they weirdest "victim" examples ever.
ETA: Almost forgot about accused sex trafficker Andrew Tate. He was getting held up as a cancel culture victim on here a couple of months ago.
As TOB said about the Cheats, "That's a triple play!" LOLOL.
on political issues at least as you present them on this board yes. By anti-intellectual I mean a person who believes that intellect and reason are less important than actions and emotions in solving practical problems and understanding reality.caryking said:Hokie, to a degree, we agree…hokiewolf said:Democracy, properly understood, is about disagreement and debate, about making public arguments about unpopular truths. Populism is inherently anti-intellectual, elevating emotions and gut feelings, denying the existence of inconvenient facts.caryking said:
For some reason, people like Civ, and for the matter, Hokie, can't stand the fabric of society, that is the populist. I think when the populist, of America, see a stink bomb, there probably is a stink bomb.
For far too long, deceptions, misinformations, disinformations, have been the norm. It's time to take back our country…. Let's start be electing, for the third time, the former Democrat, Donald Trump!!
I do not believe that the "fix" is to destroy every single institution that has been created nor do I believe they are all inherently evil and out to drastically change the US.
The institutions, or really, some of the grundoon's are ok; however, the top tier is where the problem appears to be. Additionally, the amount of people working in these departments are just too much.
I like some of the ideas, coming out by Republican candidates, regarding moving departments, out of DC, is probably a good idea. Remember, three of the wealthiest countries in the US surround DC. Think about that… wealthy counties surrounding an area that doesn't produce one thing. Doesn't make sense!
Populism just sees things that don't make sense, whereas, intellectuals try and rationalize it…
BTW, your comment: "Populism is inherently anti-intellectual", well I will not take that personally, especially from you. You've met me… would you say I'm inherently anti-intellectual?
Republican voters are begging candidates to talk about the economy.
— Mike Palicz (@Mike_Palicz) July 24, 2023
"Economic issues, such as inflation, jobs, and taxes" are the top issue among SC GOP voters by a *39* point margin. Populist issues coming in at just 7%.
Populism is the new DC bubble issue, folks. pic.twitter.com/ayCTbLGgGH
packofwolves said:
"FBI agents told the Delaware U.S. attorney's office they had already corroborated multiple details in the FD-1023, a source told The Federalist."
https://thefederalist.com/2023/07/24/fbi-told-delaware-u-s-attorney-it-had-already-partially-corroborated-biden-bribery-claims-source-says/
And then there's Civ... who loves to try to rationalize the totally irrational...caryking said:
Populism just sees things that don't make sense, whereas, intellectuals try and rationalize it…
Let me try and pull this all together (BTW, I said this many times)...hokiewolf said:on political issues at least as you present them on this board yes. By anti-intellectual I mean a person who believes that intellect and reason are less important than actions and emotions in solving practical problems and understanding reality.caryking said:Hokie, to a degree, we agree…hokiewolf said:Democracy, properly understood, is about disagreement and debate, about making public arguments about unpopular truths. Populism is inherently anti-intellectual, elevating emotions and gut feelings, denying the existence of inconvenient facts.caryking said:
For some reason, people like Civ, and for the matter, Hokie, can't stand the fabric of society, that is the populist. I think when the populist, of America, see a stink bomb, there probably is a stink bomb.
For far too long, deceptions, misinformations, disinformations, have been the norm. It's time to take back our country…. Let's start be electing, for the third time, the former Democrat, Donald Trump!!
I do not believe that the "fix" is to destroy every single institution that has been created nor do I believe they are all inherently evil and out to drastically change the US.
The institutions, or really, some of the grundoon's are ok; however, the top tier is where the problem appears to be. Additionally, the amount of people working in these departments are just too much.
I like some of the ideas, coming out by Republican candidates, regarding moving departments, out of DC, is probably a good idea. Remember, three of the wealthiest countries in the US surround DC. Think about that… wealthy counties surrounding an area that doesn't produce one thing. Doesn't make sense!
Populism just sees things that don't make sense, whereas, intellectuals try and rationalize it…
BTW, your comment: "Populism is inherently anti-intellectual", well I will not take that personally, especially from you. You've met me… would you say I'm inherently anti-intellectual?
That is not to say I don't have respect for you nor do I think your dumb or your opinions are dumb, I just think your stances on the current right weighted populist issues come from an emotional standpoint.
By the way, I seem to have a large percentage of Republican friends, at least in SCRepublican voters are begging candidates to talk about the economy.
— Mike Palicz (@Mike_Palicz) July 24, 2023
"Economic issues, such as inflation, jobs, and taxes" are the top issue among SC GOP voters by a *39* point margin. Populist issues coming in at just 7%.
Populism is the new DC bubble issue, folks. pic.twitter.com/ayCTbLGgGH
Waal, at least you weren't texting and driving. ;Bpackgrad said:
Nm. Don't try to post gifs and drive. Life lesson.
Column’s up: Hunter Biden put then-VP dad Joe on the phone with business associates at least 2 dozen times, ex-partner Devon Archer to testify https://t.co/EK84zFXYpo
— Miranda Devine (@mirandadevine) July 24, 2023
Big Mike finally had enough of Barry hogging the side piece action.
— Lauren Witzke (@LaurenWitzkeDE) July 25, 2023
Interestingly enough, Epstein’s chef mysteriously died, too.
According to one of Epstein’s victims Maria Farmer, she believed that Epstein’s head chef was preparing their dead victims and then they were eating… pic.twitter.com/m9Ybv8QQcE
Biden says "over 100 people" died from COVID pic.twitter.com/clPbK7ttKN
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) July 25, 2023
BIDEN: "We ended cancer as we know it" 🧐 pic.twitter.com/oio44FEnVp
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) July 25, 2023
Why hasn't the 6 million dollar CASH bribe dems made to Burisma come up?
— Zarric (@TheZarric) April 25, 2023
It's useless....Werewolf said:
And the intended purpose of waking up the sheep continues to fail for those few. LOL
NEW: Social credit scores are here…in Florida?!
— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) July 25, 2023
Mercola Markets bank accounts shut down by JPMorgan w/no explanation
Owner believes it’s b/c he was critical of C19 vaccines & Fauci
It’s now *illegal* in FL for banks to discriminate based on politics
Will DeSantis fight Wall… pic.twitter.com/vunLqfl4D7
The more that comes out....caryking said:
Cancel culture has its target…NEW: Social credit scores are here…in Florida?!
— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) July 25, 2023
Mercola Markets bank accounts shut down by JPMorgan w/no explanation
Owner believes it’s b/c he was critical of C19 vaccines & Fauci
It’s now *illegal* in FL for banks to discriminate based on politics
Will DeSantis fight Wall… pic.twitter.com/vunLqfl4D7
Jill Biden, Ed.D.: "Of course we need to take care of our own citizens, but we're also a part of the global community" pic.twitter.com/G2Nk75QOny
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) July 25, 2023
Biden has a packed day of nothing on the docket for tomorrow pic.twitter.com/eGQyiX30zZ
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) July 25, 2023
Regarding my previous tweet about President Trumps’s EO13848
— Please Stand By (@Please_StandBye) July 17, 2023
Q: Why didn’t Biden Cancel it? Why didn’t biden cancel EO13848 or 13818 or 13916? Why didn’t Biden close GITMO, he campaigned on it….
FYI; biden renewed his EO’s …. 🤔
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