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#Gobbler, what's this conspiracy theorist theorizing? Lay some wisdom on the rest of us, oh wise one.

#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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Ukraine strikes Putin estate with British missiles in bold move. Probably not bold enough for #daGobbler.

#Gobbler, The US and Zelensky could do more, what's your recommendation? It is time for Putin to bow to American power, don't you think?



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Do you think the strategy to end the Cold War was good or bad by the US?
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hokiewolf said:

Do you think the strategy to end the Cold War was good or bad by the US?
Do you?
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Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Do you think the strategy to end the Cold War was good or bad by the US?
Do you?
the Cold War ended, it was a winning strategy so yes.
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hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Do you think the strategy to end the Cold War was good or bad by the US?
Do you?
the Cold War ended, it was a winning strategy so yes.
You equate what's underway w Ukraine/Russia to the Peace through Strength and End of the Cold War? What year did the Russia/Ukraine conflict start.......and over what?

Do you have any idea as to how the Soviet Union was really brought down? You think Putin is the remnants of the Bolsheviks?
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Is this MIRVs from a ballistic missile??? I mean that's what it looks like to me. Not sure if it's an icbm like a bunch are saying or if it's a mrbm. But either way this seems to be a pretty big raise in the weapons being used.
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Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Do you think the strategy to end the Cold War was good or bad by the US?
Do you?
the Cold War ended, it was a winning strategy so yes.
You equate what's underway w Ukraine/Russia to the Peace through Strength and End of the Cold War? What year did the Russia/Ukraine conflict start.......and over what?

Do you have any idea as to how the Soviet Union was really brought down? You think Putin is the remnants of the Bolsheviks?
Yes, it's exactly the same strategy, and you sound like people on the 80s that were predicting that would start a full scale nuclear attack. Guess what? It didn't. It's the same here, especially since Putin wants to control Ukraine and its minerals and its farming production. Can't do that if you make it radioactive.


It's probably too little too late but at least Ikraone has the opportunity to seize Russian territory so they have something to negotiate with, because Trump is going to allow Putin to have whatever he wants, which I'm not sure how that shows any strength whatsoever.

But to entertain your WWIII fever dream, the only thing that would cause that to happen is a Russian invasion of Poland, and Putin doesn't want that smoke because he knows that the Polish Military has more fire power then they let on. They're perfectly happy with idiots like you thinking they are a backwoods country who hasn't taken steps to protect themselves. ie Peace Through Strength
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hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Do you think the strategy to end the Cold War was good or bad by the US?
Do you?
the Cold War ended, it was a winning strategy so yes.
You equate what's underway w Ukraine/Russia to the Peace through Strength and End of the Cold War? What year did the Russia/Ukraine conflict start.......and over what?

Do you have any idea as to how the Soviet Union was really brought down? You think Putin is the remnants of the Bolsheviks?
Yes, it's exactly the same strategy, and you sound like people on the 80s that were predicting that would start a full scale nuclear attack. Guess what? It didn't. It's the same here, especially since Putin wants to control Ukraine and its minerals and its farming production. Can't do that if you make it radioactive.


It's probably too little too late but at least Ikraone has the opportunity to seize Russian territory so they have something to negotiate with, because Trump is going to allow Putin to have whatever he wants, which I'm not sure how that shows any strength whatsoever.

But to entertain your WWIII fever dream, the only thing that would cause that to happen is a Russian invasion of Poland, and Putin doesn't want that smoke because he knows that the Polish Military has more fire power then they let on. They're perfectly happy with idiots like you thinking they are a backwoods country who hasn't taken steps to protect themselves. ie Peace Through Strength
Firing missiles Russia's homeland is nothing like was done in the 60's, 70's and 80's my misguided young friend. From a Kiloton perspective, Russia is the most powerful nuclear armed nation on the globe.

Let's see how it plays out then. It's going to be just like the plandemic/jab and just like the election fraud and the bet is you'll continue to deny this too. Trump will soon be your President, now get used to it.
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Let's escalate, makes perfect sense to be firing missiles into Russia. Not only do we attempt to encircle Russia, we fire NATO missiles into Russian territory hitting Russian civilians I presume. Reckless behavior and for what?

NATO sabotaged the ceasefire and peace deal that had been worked out months ago. #Boris

What would happen if an 800-kiloton nuclear warhead detonated above midtown Manhattan? - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
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Werewolf said:

Let's escalate, makes perfect sense to be firing missiles into Russia. Not only do we attempt to encircle Russia, we fire NATO missiles into Russian territory hitting Russian civilians I presume. Reckless behavior and for what?

NATO sabotaged the ceasefire and peace deal that had been worked out months ago. #Boris

What would happen if an 800-kiloton nuclear warhead detonated above midtown Manhattan? - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists



Ooooooh I know the answer to this. New York would instantly flip red in the next election.
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Ncsufist said:

Werewolf said:

Let's escalate, makes perfect sense to be firing missiles into Russia. Not only do we attempt to encircle Russia, we fire NATO missiles into Russian territory hitting Russian civilians I presume. Reckless behavior and for what?

NATO sabotaged the ceasefire and peace deal that had been worked out months ago. #Boris

What would happen if an 800-kiloton nuclear warhead detonated above midtown Manhattan? - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists



Ooooooh I know the answer to this. New York would instantly flip red in the next election.
Yep, glowing red.
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Werewolf said:


Ironic coming from a guy who lived for a century.
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MonkeyWerx is streamed on YouTube...still surviving. He's reporting a lot of "Nuke Sniffer" activity around a nuclear power plant on the border of Georgia-South Carolina. I think it is this one.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Alvin+W.+Vogtle+Electric+Generating+Plant/@33.1309252,-81.7716353,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipPHzRYhlipEn5Ucu3YCD9x6WbluuRQyzV-rvqwt!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPHzRYhlipEn5Ucu3YCD9x6WbluuRQyzV-rvqwt%3Dw129-h86-k-no!7i2048!8i1365!4m11!1m2!2m1!1snuclear+reactor,+Georgia!3m7!1s0x88f9965753cde4fd:0x1f30e36ea47c9832!8m2!3d33.1306224!4d-81.7713527!10e5!15sChhudWNsZWFyIHJlYWN0b3IsIEdlb3JnaW***SIXbnVjbGVhciByZWFjdG9yIGdlb3JnaWGSARNudWNsZWFyX3Bvd2VyX3BsYW50mgEkQ2hkRFNVaE5NRzluUzBWSlEwRm5TVVI2YWt0ZlR6aDNSUkFC4AEA!16zL20vMDV5Mmcy?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D#
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#Gobbler, Joe Rogan just called you insane. I agree, anyone that favors firing missiles into the homeland of the most powerfully armed (Megatons) nation on the globe is insane. Ukraine doesn't have the capability and technical know-how to operate these missile systems, we do. #STUPID #INSANE #RECKLESS

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The problem with you preaching impending doom every day here is eventually you need to pay out.

Peace through strength. This will be the quickest way to a ceasefire with a favorable for the people of Ukraine, who I'd like to remind you, and missles fired at them first, for no other reason than a mad man wanting to bring the Soviet Empire back together. And he fired them at civilian targets, something that is not happening to Russia.

So, while I like Rogan, and listen to him regularly, sometimes he's wrong. But you're wrong 100% of the time, so you got some work to do
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hokiewolf said:

The problem with you preaching impending doom every day here is eventually you need to pay out.

Peace through strength. This will be the quickest way to a ceasefire with a favorable for the people of Ukraine, who I'd like to remind you, and missles fired at them first, for no other reason than a mad man wanting to bring the Soviet Empire back together. And he fired them at civilian targets, something that is not happening to Russia.

So, while I like Rogan, and listen to him regularly, sometimes he's wrong. But you're wrong 100% of the time, so you got some work to do
What were you, 5-years old during Reagan's two terms. Since you seem to think you've educated yourself about Reagan, tell us the primary means by which we took down the Soviet Union. While you're at it, tell us how Putin is of the same as Leonid Brezhnev.
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Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, Joe Rogan just called you insane. I agree, anyone that favors firing missiles into the homeland of the most powerfully armed (Megatons) nation on the globe is insane. Ukraine doesn't have the capability and technical know-how to operate these missile systems, we do. #STUPID #INSANE #RECKLESS




Biden doesn't know which planet he's on. This is all Obama, mad at Trump for putting an end to his dynasty.

He's trying to leave the biggest mess he can for Trump to clean up.
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Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, Joe Rogan just called you insane. I agree, anyone that favors firing missiles into the homeland of the most powerfully armed (Megatons) nation on the globe is insane. Ukraine doesn't have the capability and technical know-how to operate these missile systems, we do. #STUPID #INSANE #RECKLESS




Biden doesn't know which planet he's on. This is all Obama, mad at Trump for putting an end to his dynasty.

He's trying to leave the biggest mess he can for Trump to clean up.
Firing missiles into Mother Russia is certainly a way to leave hot molten mess. And we're doing this for what reason again? Could be any one of the following or all of them possibly.
a) peace -- per #daGobbler
b) protect the Nazis in Ukraine
c) lay claim to agricultural lands and minerals - could this be for the sake of BlackRock?
d) further surround Russia with NATO
e) cause a nuclear exchange to destroy evidence of bioweapons labs, human trafficking and money laundering
f) launder more American taxpayer funds to the military industrial complex

Guess it could be any one of these, a combination of them .......or even all of them

My belief is that its b,c,d,e,f and not a. Firing missles into Russia and killing women and children will NOT bring any damn peace. What a moron you are #Gobbler.
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Werewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, Joe Rogan just called you insane. I agree, anyone that favors firing missiles into the homeland of the most powerfully armed (Megatons) nation on the globe is insane. Ukraine doesn't have the capability and technical know-how to operate these missile systems, we do. #STUPID #INSANE #RECKLESS




Biden doesn't know which planet he's on. This is all Obama, mad at Trump for putting an end to his dynasty.

He's trying to leave the biggest mess he can for Trump to clean up.
Firing missiles into Mother Russia is certainly a way to leave hot molten mess. And we're doing this for what reason again? Could be any one of the following or all of them possibly.
a) peace -- per #daGobbler
b) protect the Nazis in Ukraine
c) lay claim to agricultural lands and minerals - could this be for the sake of BlackRock?
d) further surround Russia with NATO
e) cause a nuclear exchange to destroy evidence of bioweapons labs, human trafficking and money laundering
f) launder more American taxpayer funds to the military industrial complex

Guess it could be any one of these, a combination of them .......or even all of them

My belief is that its b,c,d,e,f and not a. Firing missles into Russia and killing women and children will NOT bring any damn peace. What a moron you are #Gobbler.

Thank man, your conviction and steadfastness to believe in Russian propaganda only makes me believe how right I am
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hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, Joe Rogan just called you insane. I agree, anyone that favors firing missiles into the homeland of the most powerfully armed (Megatons) nation on the globe is insane. Ukraine doesn't have the capability and technical know-how to operate these missile systems, we do. #STUPID #INSANE #RECKLESS




Biden doesn't know which planet he's on. This is all Obama, mad at Trump for putting an end to his dynasty.

He's trying to leave the biggest mess he can for Trump to clean up.
Firing missiles into Mother Russia is certainly a way to leave hot molten mess. And we're doing this for what reason again? Could be any one of the following or all of them possibly.
a) peace -- per #daGobbler
b) protect the Nazis in Ukraine
c) lay claim to agricultural lands and minerals - could this be for the sake of BlackRock?
d) further surround Russia with NATO
e) cause a nuclear exchange to destroy evidence of bioweapons labs, human trafficking and money laundering
f) launder more American taxpayer funds to the military industrial complex

Guess it could be any one of these, a combination of them .......or even all of them

My belief is that its b,c,d,e,f and not a. Firing missles into Russia and killing women and children will NOT bring any damn peace. What a moron you are #Gobbler.

Thank man, your conviction and steadfastness to believe in Russian propaganda only makes me believe how right I am
Tell us my man, tell us what you know.........other than a slogan you heard from your daddy, Peace through Strength". We're waiting...............

1. Firing missiles into Russia will bring peace?
2. How was the Soviet Union brought down? Give us the primary means...
3. You know very little about either Brezhnev or Putin and you think Russia is the same as the Soviet Union.

Pitiful.
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#Gobbler, you've embarrassed yourself. At least you have the IQ to recognize you've been exposed.

Let's get this right, #Gobbler believes in BIden's peace through strength which includes firing missiles into evil-Russia's homeland, killing women and children.

Firing missiles into Mother Russia is certainly a way to leave hot molten mess. And we're doing this for what reason again? Could be any one of the following or all of them possibly.
a) peace -- per #daGobbler
b) protect the Nazis in Ukraine
c) lay claim to agricultural lands and minerals - could this be for the sake of BlackRock?
d) further surround Russia with NATO
e) cause a nuclear exchange to destroy evidence of bioweapons labs, human trafficking and money laundering
f) launder more American taxpayer funds to the military industrial complex

#Gobbler, you wouldn't know what peace through strength if it bit you on the nose. As I've said here many times, you and others like you are a threat to this republic......you are dangerous.
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#daGobbler, PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH is working. Gotta hand it to ya, your discernment continues on par with the #discernment you displayed during the early plandemic/bio-jab years. #Impressive!

According to multiple news sources, Russia struck the Ukrainian city of Dnipro with several different nuclear-capable weapons overnight. All of these weapons in this strike were carrying conventional, not nuclear warheads. Some of them may have been shot down.

None of that is important.

What is important is the message that was sent. Putin chose these particular weapons specifically to emphasize a harsh reality. As easily as the Russians just hit Ukraine with a relative handful of missiles carrying high explosives, they could have struck it with as many nuclear weapons. In that case, Dnipro and quite a bit of the surrounding territory would no longer exist. The Russians could also have struck targets inside NATO countries.

The missiles fired at Ukraine were an RS-26 Rubezh intercontinental ballistic missile, a Kh-47M2 Kinzhal air-launched ballistic missile, and seven Kh-101 cruise missiles.

The RS-26 Rubezh is a ballistic missile designed to carry up to 1,200 kilograms. The missile achieves speeds of Mach 5 or higher, making it extremely difficult to intercept with existing missile defense systems. The weapon has never before been used in combat and was developed relatively recently for the purpose of being able to defeat Western air defenses. It is also reported to be able to carry a hypersonic glide vehicle which would travel at speeds no existing interceptor missiles could match. The RS-26 can deploy four separate independently targetable nuclear warheads each with a destructive power many times that of Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

The Kh-47M2 Kinzhal is a nuclear-capable, Russian air-launched ballistic missile. It also is designed to defeat sophisticated Western air defenses. After launch, it accelerates to Mach 4 (4,900 km/h), and may then reach speeds of up to Mach 10 (12,350 km/hr) as it plummets back to earth.. This speed, in combination with the missile's erratic flight trajectory and high maneuverability, dramatically complicates interception.

The Kh-101 / Kh-102 is a family of both conventional and nuclear-capable air-launched cruise missiles (ALCM). While it is relatively slow it is designed to penetrate Western defenses by flying so low that it is below enemy radar systems. It can carry a 250 kt nuclear payload. That's a bomb more than fifteen times as powerful as what we dropped on Japan. The Kh-102 missile can deliver that warhead to a target close to 3000 miles away and put it within 6 meters of the intended target.

Note that not only are all of these weapons capable of carrying nuclear weapons, but they all also in various ways are designed to penetrate significant modern air defense systems. Putin is making clear not only that he can hit Ukraine with nuclear weapons but that he can hit Western Europe and even the United States in the same manner. The audience for this demonstration was not in Kiev. It was in Washington, DC, London and Paris.

"While we're assessing the full facts, it's obvious that such (an) attack would mark yet another clear escalation from the side of Putin," EU foreign affairs spokesman Peter Stano told reporters in response to news of the use of these nuclear-capable weapons by Russia. That was stating the obvious and also obviously the whole point.

Meanwhile, only hours after the Russian attack on Kiev Moscow threatened to strike U.S. air bases in Poland. Moscow said the opening of a new US ballistic missile defense base in Redzikowo near the Baltic coast would 'increase the overall level of nuclear danger'. The facility opened on November 13th and is part of a broader NATO missile shield called "Aegis Ashore".

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Werewolf said:

#daGobbler, PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH is working. Gotta hand it to ya, your discernment continues on par with the #discernment you displayed during the early plandemic/bio-jab years. #Impressive!

According to multiple news sources, Russia struck the Ukrainian city of Dnipro with several different nuclear-capable weapons overnight. All of these weapons in this strike were carrying conventional, not nuclear warheads. Some of them may have been shot down.

None of that is important.

What is important is the message that was sent. Putin chose these particular weapons specifically to emphasize a harsh reality. As easily as the Russians just hit Ukraine with a relative handful of missiles carrying high explosives, they could have struck it with as many nuclear weapons. In that case, Dnipro and quite a bit of the surrounding territory would no longer exist. The Russians could also have struck targets inside NATO countries.

The missiles fired at Ukraine were an RS-26 Rubezh intercontinental ballistic missile, a Kh-47M2 Kinzhal air-launched ballistic missile, and seven Kh-101 cruise missiles.

The RS-26 Rubezh is a ballistic missile designed to carry up to 1,200 kilograms. The missile achieves speeds of Mach 5 or higher, making it extremely difficult to intercept with existing missile defense systems. The weapon has never before been used in combat and was developed relatively recently for the purpose of being able to defeat Western air defenses. It is also reported to be able to carry a hypersonic glide vehicle which would travel at speeds no existing interceptor missiles could match. The RS-26 can deploy four separate independently targetable nuclear warheads each with a destructive power many times that of Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

The Kh-47M2 Kinzhal is a nuclear-capable, Russian air-launched ballistic missile. It also is designed to defeat sophisticated Western air defenses. After launch, it accelerates to Mach 4 (4,900 km/h), and may then reach speeds of up to Mach 10 (12,350 km/hr) as it plummets back to earth.. This speed, in combination with the missile's erratic flight trajectory and high maneuverability, dramatically complicates interception.

The Kh-101 / Kh-102 is a family of both conventional and nuclear-capable air-launched cruise missiles (ALCM). While it is relatively slow it is designed to penetrate Western defenses by flying so low that it is below enemy radar systems. It can carry a 250 kt nuclear payload. That's a bomb more than fifteen times as powerful as what we dropped on Japan. The Kh-102 missile can deliver that warhead to a target close to 3000 miles away and put it within 6 meters of the intended target.

Note that not only are all of these weapons capable of carrying nuclear weapons, but they all also in various ways are designed to penetrate significant modern air defense systems. Putin is making clear not only that he can hit Ukraine with nuclear weapons but that he can hit Western Europe and even the United States in the same manner. The audience for this demonstration was not in Kiev. It was in Washington, DC, London and Paris.

"While we're assessing the full facts, it's obvious that such (an) attack would mark yet another clear escalation from the side of Putin," EU foreign affairs spokesman Peter Stano told reporters in response to news of the use of these nuclear-capable weapons by Russia. That was stating the obvious and also obviously the whole point.

Meanwhile, only hours after the Russian attack on Kiev Moscow threatened to strike U.S. air bases in Poland. Moscow said the opening of a new US ballistic missile defense base in Redzikowo near the Baltic coast would 'increase the overall level of nuclear danger'. The facility opened on November 13th and is part of a broader NATO missile shield called "Aegis Ashore".




January 20th can not get here fast enough.
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If we can get by the January 06 Congressional counting of electoral college votes (delays the process - I think it can but I've not researched it).
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Werewolf said:

If we can get by the January 06 Congressional counting of electoral college votes (delays the process - I think it can but I've not researched it).
This would be the nail in the coffin of the Democratic Party if they attempted this. Surely they are not that dense?!?
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CoachCase said:

Werewolf said:

If we can get by the January 06 Congressional counting of electoral college votes (delays the process - I think it can but I've not researched it).
This would be the nail in the coffin of the Democratic Party if they attempted this. Surely they are not that dense?!?
Don't forget who you are responding to...
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CoachCase said:

Werewolf said:

If we can get by the January 06 Congressional counting of electoral college votes (delays the process - I think it can but I've not researched it).
This would be the nail in the coffin of the Democratic Party if they attempted this. Surely they are not that dense?!?
Agreed. It will be interesting to see how many R's (RINOs) fall on the side with D's. Mitch & Company.
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TheStorm said:

CoachCase said:

Werewolf said:

If we can get by the January 06 Congressional counting of electoral college votes (delays the process - I think it can but I've not researched it).
This would be the nail in the coffin of the Democratic Party if they attempted this. Surely they are not that dense?!?
Don't forget who you are responding to...
Coach and I are on the same page a majority of the time. You got something you'd like to discuss, Champ?

You with #daGobbler and lobbing missiles into evil Mother Russia? #Gobbler's parroted "peace through strength"......he hasn't a clue what he's talking about, do you?
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#daGobbler thinks lobbing missiles into Mother Russia is "peace through strength". What a nitwit idea!

I don't remember Reagan lobbing missiles into the Soviet Union. #daGobbler idea of "peace through strength" is a threat to not only our nation but a threat to humanity. #asinine

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"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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Werewolf said:

#daGobbler thinks lobbing missiles into Mother Russia is "peace through strength". What a nitwit idea!

I don't remember Reagan lobbing missiles into the Soviet Union. #daGobbler idea of "peace through strength" is a threat to not only our nation but a threat to humanity. #asinine


The US chased the Russians out of Afghanistan via proxy war, just like they are trying to do now in Ukraine. Trump is now going to make the same mistake that happened in the 80s and provide zero help to rebuild Ukraine. That will again come back to bite the US, but hey you don't care because you think you know everything because you were born in the 50s boomer.

Why are you so afraid of Putin? All he does is saber rattle. He's not a worth advisory. Bunch of amateurs trying to find reverse on a Soviet tank frightens you.
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hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#daGobbler thinks lobbing missiles into Mother Russia is "peace through strength". What a nitwit idea!

I don't remember Reagan lobbing missiles into the Soviet Union. #daGobbler idea of "peace through strength" is a threat to not only our nation but a threat to humanity. #asinine


The US chased the Russians out of Afghanistan via proxy war, just like they are trying to do now in Ukraine. Trump is now going to make the same mistake that happened in the 80s and provide zero help to rebuild Ukraine. That will again come back to bite the US, but hey you don't care because you think you know everything because you were born in the 50s boomer.

Why are you so afraid of Putin? All he does is saber rattle. He's not a worth advisory. Bunch of amateurs trying to find reverse on a Soviet tank frightens you.
Taking one of those ICBM's in Wake County is worth the risk, right? Let's keep on lobbing those missiles into Mother Russia, you're a smart guy, right?
 
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