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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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We're on the same team.......that's what I'm about.

No Were, you're on your own crazy train team. Cary has common sense. You have none. You believe every bull **** conspiracy theory, despite them repeatedly being proven wrong. No one believes your **** you throw on the wall, out side of one or two other extreme and demented people on this board.

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No Were, you're on your own crazy train team. Cary has common sense. You have none. You believe every bull **** conspiracy theory, despite them repeatedly being proven wrong. No one believes your **** you throw on the wall, out side of one or two other extreme and demented people on this board.

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yep, 2020 wasn't stolen, #sheeple.

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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I've watched Cary's post a long time and he's his own man, just like you and me. Slow to come around but he did........... Never chided him about anything .......he's always been on the GOOD side's team. We're in it together.

I've said here many times I am willing to push the envelope. Some here post FoxNews and Washington Times and think its cutting edge info.

I've posted here many times look at Venezuela, Cuba, CCP, Iran and components of our allies operating out of Serbia via George Soros are the culprits primarily behind the 2020, 2022 and 2024 election fraud. #watch

Look at the Senate and House races in 2024 and that's how they are trying to retain a foothold to tamp down Trump. They are counting on the two RINOs......and fighting hard to steal it from Kari Lake. Maricopa County has some people headed to GITMO. #watch

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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i would explain it differently, there would be a steady declining # of D votes beginning from 2008 to 20012.., Obama was a 2008 phenom and he was exposed and real totals would be less than reported but just enough
2012 - Obama should have been lower, most probably a steal (only POTUS election in 50 yrs I did not vote -Romney/Obama
2016 - Algorithm wasn't strong enough to overcome MAGA votes, steal attempted
2020- Massive steal, Allowed for #devolution
2024- Fraud but enough done to prevent steal, Kamala's #s are 10-15 million too high, her real #'s are much less.
We'll see.

I'll add this to restate.

2008 Obama 69.5
2012 Obama close to 62
2016 Clinton closer to 60
2020 Biden closer to 50
2024 Kamala closer to 40

I find it funny that Democrats are claiming fraud because we had record breaking turnout but they are missing 15 million votes.

They are right that there was fraud but that fraud occurred 4 years ago.

#DoNotConcedeKamala pic.twitter.com/pf7YD5UbmV

— 🇺🇸Mike🇺🇸 (@FreedomFan88) November 6, 2024

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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i would explain it differently, there would be a steady declining # of D votes beginning from 2008 to 20012.., Obama was a 2008 phenom and he was exposed and real totals would be less than reported but just enough
2012 - Obama should have been lower, most probably a steal (only POTUS election in 50 yrs I did not vote -Romney/Obama
2016 - Algorithm wasn't strong enough to overcome MAGA votes, steal attempted
2020- Massive steal, Allowed for #devolution
2024- Fraud but enough done to prevent steal, Kamala's #s are 10-15 million too high, her real #'s are much less.
We'll see.

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Were, you may be right; however, I'm hearing that the total numbers will go up significantly. I guess we will see...

59,028,444 - 62,040,610
69,498,516 - 59,948,323
65,915,795 - 60,933,504
65,853,514 - 62,984,828
81,283,501 - 74,223,975
68,392,213 - 73,028,869 (so far)

Agreed, we will see.

GITMO will add some new faces for the humidity there......all the way from the Az desert. SOS there will hang, watch.

Kari Lake @KariLake @CarolineWren is still down 53,000 votes, with over 1 million still outstanding. So still a chance. Maricopa County needs to face a legal tsunami. They only posted 23,000 last night. WTF? Still 795,000 outstanding. pic.twitter.com/7EERjP8nwX

— Tony Seruga (@TonySeruga) November 7, 2024

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Pretty sure the votes were real in both 2020 and 2024.

Dems on Boards of Election around the country would be screaming from the rooftops that Pubs were cheating in 2024, just like Pubs on these Boards would have been in 2020 if Dems had found some way to cheat.

Nm….can't get video post

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Pretty sure the votes were real in both 2020 and 2024.

Dems on Boards of Election around the country would be screaming from the rooftops that Pubs were cheating in 2024, just like Pubs on these Boards would have been in 2020 if Dems had found some way to cheat.

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Would you agree that the deviation for Biden in 2020 is out of the norm?

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Kamala underperformed Biden in every single county in the U. S. But 2020 was legitimate. Right!!

https://truthsocial.com/@SebGorka/posts/113442434870531898

A dose of hard cold facts from #daGeneral.

My counsel to everyone who reads this, listens to what I say, or gives a **** what I do, last nights victory was historic (YES!), but as in warfare, this was only the beginning of the long slog to achieving total victory.

The best analogy is that we have seized the beachhead and have broken through the hedgerows into Normandy. I want everyone to understand, we have not achieved a "VE Day", we are more like D-DAY+1. We have our beachhead, the troops are arriving in strength, with determined purpose, and a clear mandate.

But now the real work of rooting out the evil infestation really begins. Removing the infiltrators, the bureaucratic systems and processes that infect decision making and do nothing to protect the safety and security of the American people along with many bureaucrats who wish nothing but ill will to our arriving troops.

Sorry, not this time Obama. Fool us once, shame on us, try to fool us again, shame on you.

Making America Great Again is our marching order and #WeThePeople are on the move.

Lead, Follow, or Get the Hell Out of the Way!





Juan O'Savin says 4-5 months of rockly times ahead....that's through March/April. When was the inauguration date for the old republic, March 04th?

My counsel to everyone who reads this, listens to what I say, or gives a sh!t what I do, last nights victory was historic (YES!), but as in warfare, this was only the beginning of the long slog to achieving total victory.

The best analogy is that we have seized the beachhead…

— General Mike Flynn (@GenFlynn) November 6, 2024

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Pretty sure the votes were real in both 2020 and 2024.

Dems on Boards of Election around the country would be screaming from the rooftops that Pubs were cheating in 2024, just like Pubs on these Boards would have been in 2020 if Dems had found some way to cheat.

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Would you agree that the deviation for Biden in 2020 is out of the norm?

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It was out of the norm for both candidates because turnout was historic.

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Pretty sure the votes were real in both 2020 and 2024.

Dems on Boards of Election around the country would be screaming from the rooftops that Pubs were cheating in 2024, just like Pubs on these Boards would have been in 2020 if Dems had found some way to cheat.

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Would you agree that the deviation for Biden in 2020 is out of the norm?

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It was out of the norm for both candidates because turnout was historic.

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Waited with bated breath for several hours for #daSieve to reply, if he would. LOL



#Sieve, please explain the Democrat Senate results as compared to Maricopa's POTUS results. I'm sure you'll be able to explain it away, you always do.

At 8:02:50 PM local time, Maricopa County is recorded as having an update as follows:
Gallego: 596,401
Lake: 489,800
Difference: 106,601

In the same update, the following totals are recorded in the Presidential race:
Harris: 564,054
Trump: 539,004
Difference: 24,050

NUMBERS DON’T LIE: PEOPLE DO!

BREAKING - EVIDENCE OF FRAUD OR MISCOUNTING IN KARI LAKE'S SENATE RACE: The Lone Raccoon.

As many of you know, I monitored and recorded every update from the NYT site last night. The results in the Arizona Senate race clearly show the the reported… pic.twitter.com/eZpyuu92dX

— TRUTH NOW ⭐️⭐️⭐️🗽 (@sxdoc) November 7, 2024

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Pretty sure the votes were real in both 2020 and 2024.

Dems on Boards of Election around the country would be screaming from the rooftops that Pubs were cheating in 2024, just like Pubs on these Boards would have been in 2020 if Dems had found some way to cheat.

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Would you agree that the deviation for Biden in 2020 is out of the norm?

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It was out of the norm for both candidates because turnout was historic.

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Pretty sure the votes were real in both 2020 and 2024.

Dems on Boards of Election around the country would be screaming from the rooftops that Pubs were cheating in 2024, just like Pubs on these Boards would have been in 2020 if Dems had found some way to cheat.

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The number of votes is beside the point.

We're supposed to believe that in 2020 the Dems were sophisticated enough to steal a national election even though Trump controlled the levers of federal power, but then in 2024, when Dems DID control the federal government, they were reduced to some two-bit scheme predicated on somehow sneaking thousands of illegals past security or whatever, a scheme that could be easily thwarted if only Republicans made sure to vote. It's hard to understate how moronically transparent that is.

And of course right on cue Trump was screaming on Truth Social that OMG WE SEE THEM CHEATING IN PHILADELPHIA even as Russian bomb threats were being called into Dem precincts. But guess what? The Dems lost ground there and everywhere else, and are likely to hand all three branches of government to the Republicans. There was clearly no cheating whatsoever (unless it was Trump and Elon). Trump was clearly LYING.

If Cary or any of the other fraud true believers had the capacity for integrity they would admit that yes, obviously Trump was lying on Tuesday, with the obvious implications that he lied to them about it all through 2020, too. There's no other sensical explanation.

I'm sure they'll seamlessly transition to not caring, though, so I won't hold my breath.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Pretty sure the votes were real in both 2020 and 2024.

Dems on Boards of Election around the country would be screaming from the rooftops that Pubs were cheating in 2024, just like Pubs on these Boards would have been in 2020 if Dems had found some way to cheat.

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The number of votes is beside the point.

We're supposed to believe that in 2020 the Dems were sophisticated enough to steal a national election even though Trump controlled the levers of federal power, but then in 2024, when Dems DID control the federal government, they were reduced to some two-bit scheme predicated on somehow sneaking thousands of illegals past security or whatever, a scheme that could be easily thwarted if only Republicans made sure to vote. It's hard to understate how moronically transparent that is.

And of course right on cue Trump was screaming on Truth Social that OMG WE SEE THEM CHEATING IN PHILADELPHIA even as Russian bomb threats were being called into Dem precincts. But guess what? The Dems lost ground there and everywhere else, and are likely to hand all three branches of government to the Republicans. There was clearly no cheating whatsoever (unless it was Trump and Elon). Trump was clearly LYING.

If Cary or any of the other fraud true believers had the capacity for integrity they would admit that yes, obviously Trump was lying on Tuesday, with the obvious implications that he lied to them about it all through 2020, too. There's no other sensical explanation.

I'm sure they'll seamlessly transition to not caring, though, so I won't hold my breath.

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Help me understand something, you and civ both say there is no cheating going on. The US has history, checks and balances etc so no way massive cheating can happen. On the other hand the candidate you voted for ran on the message that democracy is at risk, trump is basically Hitler..etc. How can the US be strong enough that no cheating can happen but not strong enough to prevent someone elected as president to making themselves a dictator?

Not that you care, but I do not believe there is massive voter cheating. I also believe enough in the US that an elected official cannot make themselves a dictator.

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If I put Were on ignore, I wouldn't have any post to read…

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Pretty sure the votes were real in both 2020 and 2024.

Dems on Boards of Election around the country would be screaming from the rooftops that Pubs were cheating in 2024, just like Pubs on these Boards would have been in 2020 if Dems had found some way to cheat.

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Would you agree that the deviation for Biden in 2020 is out of the norm?

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It was out of the norm for both candidates because turnout was historic.

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Civ, did you even look at the vote totals? Look at them and tell me you're still confident in your assessment…

59,028,444 - 62,040,610
69,498,516 - 59,948,323
65,915,795 - 60,933,504
65,853,514 - 62,984,828
81,283,501 - 74,223,975
68,392,213 - 73,028,869 (so far)

Colorado was the only state to have leftward shifts in voting

Colorado was also the only state to have all their voting machine passwords leaked by CO Sos Jena Griswold months before the election

Do the math https://t.co/3tw1I5Gx0A

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) November 7, 2024

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If I put Were on ignore, I wouldn't have any post to read…

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Pretty sure the votes were real in both 2020 and 2024.

Dems on Boards of Election around the country would be screaming from the rooftops that Pubs were cheating in 2024, just like Pubs on these Boards would have been in 2020 if Dems had found some way to cheat.

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Would you agree that the deviation for Biden in 2020 is out of the norm?

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It was out of the norm for both candidates because turnout was historic.

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Civ, did you even look at the vote totals? Look at them and tell me you're still confident in your assessment…

59,028,444 - 62,040,610
69,498,516 - 59,948,323
65,915,795 - 60,933,504
65,853,514 - 62,984,828
81,283,501 - 74,223,975
68,392,213 - 73,028,869 (so far)

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My assessment is that turnout was historic and your data underscores that.

That, and that there is no way that MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD can be succesfully perpetrated by states across the union AND that massive and highly successful fraud somehow evades all systems designed to prevent it and goes completed undetected for years/decades/forever.

That's not the way successful heists operate. Two people knowing about illegality is probably enough to get them busted when one of them squeals. Fraud that would require the complicity of thousands of operators from both parties across the country to perpetrate the fraud, and then for every single one of them to keep quiet about it, is complete and obvious fantasy.

Voter fraud, manipulation to some degree as existed before in elections (local, state and national), (Tweed machine, Daley machine). Do I think that there is major fraud during every election - no. Do I think that in today's world with technology and computerized/digital voting machines, etc that fraud could be an issue and concern - yes.

2020 national election is an asterisk because of the massive use of mail-in ballots which were counted/handled differently per each state's discretion. Not saying that massive fraud took place but any reasonable person that thinks that it could not have happened either is not looking at that opportunity honestly.

For the most part, many states went back and re-examined how each state conducted their elections and reviewed the measures in place that would ensure integrity in the polling place. That is a win-win for everyone!

This time around, when incidents occurred and/or reported, it seemed that officials were on top of it very quickly. Nevada and Arizona are red flags - not saying that anything corrupt has happened. But in 2024, they should be better prepared to count the votes like the other states to ensure voter trust in the process.

Who's the Scavino guy, I wonder.

Dear President Trump,
Please announce that you will be auditing all states for 2024 election, your first day in office— an E.0. so ARIZONA will stop stealing the race from Kari Lake today in fear of being caught. AND also, it would be really nice to prove CA is red & help…

— cagrown5 (@cagrown5) November 8, 2024

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If I put Were on ignore, I wouldn't have any post to read…

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Pretty sure the votes were real in both 2020 and 2024.

Dems on Boards of Election around the country would be screaming from the rooftops that Pubs were cheating in 2024, just like Pubs on these Boards would have been in 2020 if Dems had found some way to cheat.

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Would you agree that the deviation for Biden in 2020 is out of the norm?

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It was out of the norm for both candidates because turnout was historic.

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Civ, did you even look at the vote totals? Look at them and tell me you're still confident in your assessment…

59,028,444 - 62,040,610
69,498,516 - 59,948,323
65,915,795 - 60,933,504
65,853,514 - 62,984,828
81,283,501 - 74,223,975
68,392,213 - 73,028,869 (so far)

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My assessment is that turnout was historic and your data underscores that.

That, and that there is no way that MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD can be succesfully perpetrated by states across the union AND that massive and highly successful fraud somehow evades all systems designed to prevent it and goes completed undetected for years/decades/forever.

That's not the way successful heists operate. Two people knowing about illegality is probably enough to get them busted when one of them squeals. Fraud that would require the complicity of thousands of operators from both parties across the country to perpetrate the fraud, and then for every single one of them to keep quiet about it, is complete and obvious fantasy.

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That is certainly a way to look at things... I think its a lazy way; however, its a way.

This is classic…

Arizona Announces They Have Finished Counting And Calvin Coolidge Has Won Their 3 Electoral Votes https://t.co/Krubw5nFPY pic.twitter.com/1DPYMb4pkf

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) November 8, 2024

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If I put Were on ignore, I wouldn't have any post to read…

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Go ahead bro, you got the FLO...... We can get Sieve back here and you and he can debate another 4 years.......and accomplish NADA. You now claim to have had the 2020 election fraud figured out months ago.....LMAO. You spent months apologizing for even contemplating such a thing possible. The underlying fraud is still there and too many now believe the fraud has been vetted out. Bull****, it's still there.

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Come on man….

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Were lives in his own fantasy land...

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I knew his comment would bring out the normies, LOL. You, at least, have progressed along nicely.......nowhere near #daGobbler sleeple.

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If you don't know where Cary stands on the election fraud by now - you either haven't been paying attention whatsoever... or... well... let me just leave it at that.

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Actually, I'm starting to lose some confidence in the idea of 2020 election fraud. Trump is pushing towards 80M votes and I'm hearing he could or probably will eclipse it.

So, my argument has been that the numbers that Biden got were never accomplished and were a massive deviation from any other year. Well, if Trump reaches this same numbers, then, Pubs may have created election fraud themselves or the votes are real. We will see...

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Pretty sure the votes were real in both 2020 and 2024.

Dems on Boards of Election around the country would be screaming from the rooftops that Pubs were cheating in 2024, just like Pubs on these Boards would have been in 2020 if Dems had found some way to cheat.

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Would you agree that the deviation for Biden in 2020 is out of the norm?

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It was out of the norm for both candidates because turnout was historic.

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Civ, did you even look at the vote totals? Look at them and tell me you're still confident in your assessment…

59,028,444 - 62,040,610
69,498,516 - 59,948,323
65,915,795 - 60,933,504
65,853,514 - 62,984,828
81,283,501 - 74,223,975
68,392,213 - 73,028,869 (so far)

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My assessment is that turnout was historic and your data underscores that.

That, and that there is no way that MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD can be succesfully perpetrated by states across the union AND that massive and highly successful fraud somehow evades all systems designed to prevent it and goes completed undetected for years/decades/forever.

That's not the way successful heists operate. Two people knowing about illegality is probably enough to get them busted when one of them squeals. Fraud that would require the complicity of thousands of operators from both parties across the country to perpetrate the fraud, and then for every single one of them to keep quiet about it, is complete and obvious fantasy.

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That is certainly a way to look at things... I think its a lazy way; however, its a way.

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Cary, c'mon man.

Laziness is looking at the vote total and being like "Oh man! Fraud is the only explanation!"

When you actually observe all the drivers of the vote in 2020 and also all the safeguards and disincentives and court cases and complete lack of evidence or even any plausible methods by which millions of votes could have been fabricated but not subsequently discovered, the only rational conclusion is fraud didn't happen.