hokiewolf said:

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Who are your top 5 rappers of all time Were?

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Now this could be a good discussion

jkpackfan said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Who are your top 5 rappers of all time Were?

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Now this could be a good discussion

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Definitely not going to be one of the Beastie Boys

Don’t make fun of kids who believe in Santa

There are adults who believe Joe Biden got 81 million votes

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Here's the actual video. Stop posting fake ****

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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Agree.

Even better to listen to the entire 17 minutes.

ETA: Sam Harris interview begins around 33:00

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Sam Harris is the epitome of an Elitist. I'm 8 minutes into the interview and already realize he is nobody I would enjoy spending time with. That said, I would do it because I'm fascinated with people and their world view..

A couple of points:

His assessment of Twitter being able to do as they please. In general, I agree with him. Does he feel the same way now that Elon owns it and/or Alex Jones is back on twitter?

I'm not a fan of government intrusion on business; however, how do we manage to accept the intrusions on utilities. It's extremely egregious!

I think the people, that I listen to, that were, and still are, to some degree, wanting to regulate Twitter were categorizing it as a utility. If you think about it from that perspective, then we already have precedence for the regulation. I'm not saying I agree with the precedence; rather, we have it...

BTW, this far in to this interview, he has said numerous negative things about Trump and they are very much an opinion without placing factual data to support himself. That's ok, I've done the same thing about people. I think this just shows me that he doesn't like certain people, because of personality; rather, than substance...

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Isn't it odd that the people who normally say that the free market should decide everything also happen to want massive government regulations when it comes to things like abortion and Twitter?

Anyway, the fundamental problem with the Twitter thing is this: The right wing relies heavily on disinformation now in order to operate. Not just political spin that emphasizes your narrative or politicians exaggerating, which everyone does, but actual fabrication of reality on an egregious level. That's just not something that the left wing or centrists do. Doctored videos and clever editing are a regular feature on Fox News or wherever, and the internet is a firehose of far worse. Just ask Werewolf. Even you know the difference between the most egregious disinformation and regular political speech... honestly, the Water Cooler would be 1000% times better for everyone if IPS just straight up banned obvious disinformation of all kinds.

And then of course there's the Christian Nationalism, Anti-Semitism, etc. Elon is now discovering for himself why companies moderate their "free speech"... because Disney does not want its ads to appear next to an anti-Semitic rant... FULL STOP. In a business like Twitter you only have one customer... the advertisers. Your job is to either make them happy or go out of business.

Civilized said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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Agree.

Even better to listen to the entire 17 minutes.

ETA: Sam Harris interview begins around 33:00

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Sam Harris is the epitome of an Elitist. I'm 8 minutes into the interview and already realize he is nobody I would enjoy spending time with. That said, I would do it because I'm fascinated with people and their world view..

A couple of points:

His assessment of Twitter being able to do as they please. In general, I agree with him. Does he feel the same way now that Elon owns it and/or Alex Jones is back on twitter?

I'm not a fan of government intrusion on business; however, how do we manage to accept the intrusions on utilities. It's extremely egregious!

I think the people, that I listen to, that were, and still are, to some degree, wanting to regulate Twitter were categorizing it as a utility. If you think about it from that perspective, then we already have precedence for the regulation. I'm not saying I agree with the precedence; rather, we have it...

BTW, this far in to this interview, he has said numerous negative things about Trump and they are very much an opinion without placing factual data to support himself. That's ok, I've done the same thing about people. I think this just shows me that he doesn't like certain people, because of personality; rather, than substance...

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Isn't it odd that the people who normally say that the free market should decide everything also happen to want massive government regulations when it comes to things like abortion and Twitter?

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And gay marriage.

And trans medical treatments.

And books in libraries.

Just don't touch, talk about, or even think about guns. Anything but that.

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lol. It's liberal snowflakes crying about X. Not that the truth matters to yall. Ask Elon. Ask Joe Rogan what woke regards are trying to cancel everything. Liberals.

But that's your schtick with the moron isn't it? Lying.

Bubububut guns.

You do you and try to keep letting the mentally ill shower with little girls. I'll do me and keep ALL of my guns.

Lol.... "if Twitter becomes too one-sided". Snowflakes are melting because Twitter is no longer the propaganda arm of the Democratic party.

Civilized said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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Agree.

Even better to listen to the entire 17 minutes.

ETA: Sam Harris interview begins around 33:00

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Sam Harris is the epitome of an Elitist. I'm 8 minutes into the interview and already realize he is nobody I would enjoy spending time with. That said, I would do it because I'm fascinated with people and their world view..

A couple of points:

His assessment of Twitter being able to do as they please. In general, I agree with him. Does he feel the same way now that Elon owns it and/or Alex Jones is back on twitter?

I'm not a fan of government intrusion on business; however, how do we manage to accept the intrusions on utilities. It's extremely egregious!

I think the people, that I listen to, that were, and still are, to some degree, wanting to regulate Twitter were categorizing it as a utility. If you think about it from that perspective, then we already have precedence for the regulation. I'm not saying I agree with the precedence; rather, we have it...

BTW, this far in to this interview, he has said numerous negative things about Trump and they are very much an opinion without placing factual data to support himself. That's ok, I've done the same thing about people. I think this just shows me that he doesn't like certain people, because of personality; rather, than substance...

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Isn't it odd that the people who normally say that the free market should decide everything also happen to want massive government regulations when it comes to things like abortion and Twitter?

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And gay marriage.

And trans medical treatments.

And books in libraries.

Just don't touch, talk about, or even think about guns. Anything but that.

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Which of the things listed are an individual right, that the constitution recognized, and listed it as… we can't touch that!

As far as abortion, it's not expressly mentioned (yea, I'm sure no one ever expected abortion on demand); therefore, it falls under the 10th amendment. BTW, look at states, like Ohio, that have adopted abortion in their constitution…. It appears that the ruling is working as intended.

Civ, to your cohort, please ask him if relief should be given to utilities, from government control. You see, people that are blinded by their idiocy, make comments without understanding reality.

Twitter was the public square, for liberals, until Elon took over. I believe Twitter, as a so-called private company can certainly manage how they want. Unfortunately, for conservatives, Twitter was nothing more than a liberal hive with control by government agencies. Elon certainly exposed that truth!

Now that Twitter has changed, well… liberals want to complain. Yea, the anti-semetics are definitely coming from conservatives…. Paid agitators doing their best to feel good about themselves.

Civ, I personally don't agree with many of the social issues, of our day; however, I stand with certain groups, in support. Perhaps not the way they may want; rather, in a way that is constitutional, I believe. Example: I don't support Gay marriage. I do support people living their life. So, let's work together to abolish marriage license! If done, no one can be marginalized. We all can get married however we choose…. We don't need the government sanctioning marriage…. Kind of like a free market…

caryking said:

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Which of the things listed are an individual right, that the constitution recognized, and listed it as… we can't touch that!

As far as abortion, it's not expressly mentioned (yea, I'm sure no one ever expected abortion on demand); therefore, it falls under the 10th amendment. BTW, look at states, like Ohio, that have adopted abortion in their constitution…. It appears that the ruling is working as intended.

Civ, to your cohort, please ask him if relief should be given to utilities, from government control. You see, people that are blinded by their idiocy, make comments without understanding reality.

Twitter was the public square, for liberals, until Elon took over. I believe Twitter, as a so-called private company can certainly manage how they want. Unfortunately, for conservatives, Twitter was nothing more than a liberal hive with control by government agencies. Elon certainly exposed that truth!

Now that Twitter has changed, well… liberals want to complain. Yea, the anti-semetics are definitely coming from conservatives…. Paid agitators doing their best to feel good about themselves.

Civ, I personally don't agree with many of the social issues, of our day; however, I stand with certain groups, in support. Perhaps not the way they may want; rather, in a way that is constitutional, I believe. Example: I don't support Gay marriage. I do support people living their life. So, let's work together to abolish marriage license! If done, no one can be marginalized. We all can get married however we choose…. We don't need the government sanctioning marriage…. Kind of like a free market…

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Seems they always leave that part out. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! None of that other stuff was in the Constitution and the founders never thought that murdering babies would be a good idea. That is why they left those things to the States as you say.

DrummerboyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Which of the things listed are an individual right, that the constitution recognized, and listed it as… we can't touch that!

As far as abortion, it's not expressly mentioned (yea, I'm sure no one ever expected abortion on demand); therefore, it falls under the 10th amendment. BTW, look at states, like Ohio, that have adopted abortion in their constitution…. It appears that the ruling is working as intended.

Civ, to your cohort, please ask him if relief should be given to utilities, from government control. You see, people that are blinded by their idiocy, make comments without understanding reality.

Twitter was the public square, for liberals, until Elon took over. I believe Twitter, as a so-called private company can certainly manage how they want. Unfortunately, for conservatives, Twitter was nothing more than a liberal hive with control by government agencies. Elon certainly exposed that truth!

Now that Twitter has changed, well… liberals want to complain. Yea, the anti-semetics are definitely coming from conservatives…. Paid agitators doing their best to feel good about themselves.

Civ, I personally don't agree with many of the social issues, of our day; however, I stand with certain groups, in support. Perhaps not the way they may want; rather, in a way that is constitutional, I believe. Example: I don't support Gay marriage. I do support people living their life. So, let's work together to abolish marriage license! If done, no one can be marginalized. We all can get married however we choose…. We don't need the government sanctioning marriage…. Kind of like a free market…

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Seems they always leave that part out. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! None of that other stuff was in the Constitution and the founders never thought that murdering babies would be a good idea. That is why they left those things to the States as you say.

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Or that a biological male could get another biological male pregnant lol.

Merrick Garland in Sep; There is NOT a two-tiered justice system.

So rest assured, the DOJ will arrest and convict Hunter Biden for contempt of Congress, like they did with Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro, right?🙃 pic.twitter.com/JMySAmagwM

— Eddie (@ICU1010) December 13, 2023