caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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It doesn't matter who the Republicans put out as a candidate, the Dems will link him to Trump. It will be the ugliest campaign we've ever seen.

My only worry with Trump is because of the people that can't see through the BS.

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False.

If the Pubs put Nikki Haley out there she wouldn't be linked to Trump because she's not Trumpian.

Same with John Kasich or Tim Scott.

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Civ, none of those would bring out big support! Also, none of them recognize the real threat to the US.

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caryking said:

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Glasswolf said:

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I could see myself supporting John Kasich

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Glass, Kasich is not a guy I can support, at all. Haley is another I'm not comfortable with. Heck, I'd rather support Tulsi G than N Haley. I may agree on more policies with Haley than Tulsi; however, I think Tulsi would try to eliminate Washington corruption where Haley would work with it…

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Oldsouljer said:

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caryking said:

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Glasswolf said:

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I could see myself supporting John Kasich

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Glass, Kasich is not a guy I can support, at all. Haley is another I'm not comfortable with. Heck, I'd rather support Tulsi G than N Haley. I may agree on more policies with Haley than Tulsi; however, I think Tulsi would try to eliminate Washington corruption where Haley would work with it…

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Nobody likes a traitor, not even those who used the services of a traitor. Kasich masqueraded for years as something he wasn't, we have enough weasels in DC as it is.

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hokiewolf said:

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https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/this-july-fourth-meet-three-americas?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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It doesn't matter who the Republicans put out as a candidate, the Dems will link him to Trump. It will be the ugliest campaign we've ever seen.

My only worry with Trump is because of the people that can't see through the BS.

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False.

If the Pubs put Nikki Haley out there she wouldn't be linked to Trump because she's not Trumpian.

Same with John Kasich or Tim Scott.

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Civ, none of those would bring out big support! Also, none of them recognize the real threat to the US.

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That's a different point.

My point is that candidates won't be linked to Trump no matter what their approach or ideologies or temperament are. The more divergent they are from Trump the less they will be linked to Trump.

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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It doesn't matter who the Republicans put out as a candidate, the Dems will link him to Trump. It will be the ugliest campaign we've ever seen.

My only worry with Trump is because of the people that can't see through the BS.

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False.

If the Pubs put Nikki Haley out there she wouldn't be linked to Trump because she's not Trumpian.

Same with John Kasich or Tim Scott.

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Civ, none of those would bring out big support! Also, none of them recognize the real threat to the US.

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That's a different point.

My point is that candidates won't be linked to Trump no matter what their approach or ideologies or temperament are. The more divergent they are from Trump the less they will be linked to Trump.

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BTW, didn't I read somewhere that Nikki would support Trump in 2024?

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Civilized said:

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PackFansXL said:

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Democrats and their eager minions in the press have been demonizing DeSantis for a year now. They don't care how big the lie is, they will push it despite plenty of evidence proving they are misleading the public.

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What's the lie?

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caryking said:

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Civ is one of those that would vote in a Republican primary just to screw it up…

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PackFansXL said:

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hokiewolf said:

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https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/this-july-fourth-meet-three-americas?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct

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That was a good article, hokie. Thanks for posting.

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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PackFansXL said:

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hokiewolf said:

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https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/this-july-fourth-meet-three-americas?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct

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That was a good article, hokie. Thanks for posting.

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too bad the ones who need to read it won't

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I'm also worried about the ones who think others NEED to read it, but may not recognize their own failures in what they read.

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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PackFansXL said:

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hokiewolf said:

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https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/this-july-fourth-meet-three-americas?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct

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That was a good article, hokie. Thanks for posting.

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too bad the ones who need to read it won't

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I'm also worried about the ones who think others NEED to read it, but may not recognize their own failures in what they read.

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what tribalism test am I failing this time?

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"There was a time when I lived my life on the polarized wings. I spent more time worried about "the left" than I spent thinking through what part my partisanship played in fraying the American social fabric. I saw the triumph of my political foes as a greater threat to the nation than the partisan conflict itself."

The quote above said a lot to me. I have definitely contributed to the head butting in this board, but I also feel as if I recognized that. I'm no where close to perfect, but I did recognize what I was doing and feel as if I've changed my approach in a lot of ways.

My point is not the tribalism that you take from the article, but our own involvement in contributing to it, whether we want to admit it or not. That includes you. Your comment of people that NEED to read the article goes to that point. You contribute to the issues of this board as much as myself or anybody else you want to passive aggressively call out.

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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PackFansXL said:

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hokiewolf said:

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https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/this-july-fourth-meet-three-americas?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct

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That was a good article, hokie. Thanks for posting.

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too bad the ones who need to read it won't

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I'm also worried about the ones who think others NEED to read it, but may not recognize their own failures in what they read.

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what tribalism test am I failing this time?

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"There was a time when I lived my life on the polarized wings. I spent more time worried about "the left" than I spent thinking through what part my partisanship played in fraying the American social fabric. I saw the triumph of my political foes as a greater threat to the nation than the partisan conflict itself."

The quote above said a lot to me. I have definitely contributed to the head butting in this board, but I also feel as if I recognized that. I'm no where close to perfect, but I did recognize what I was doing and feel as if I've changed my approach in a lot of ways.

My point is not the tribalism that you take from the article, but our own involvement in contributing to it, whether we want to admit it or not. That includes you. Your comment of people that NEED to read the article goes to that point. You contribute to the issues of this board as much as myself or anybody else you want to passive aggressively call out.

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caryking said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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PackFansXL said:

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hokiewolf said:

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https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/this-july-fourth-meet-three-americas?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct

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That was a good article, hokie. Thanks for posting.

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too bad the ones who need to read it won't

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I'm also worried about the ones who think others NEED to read it, but may not recognize their own failures in what they read.

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what tribalism test am I failing this time?

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"There was a time when I lived my life on the polarized wings. I spent more time worried about "the left" than I spent thinking through what part my partisanship played in fraying the American social fabric. I saw the triumph of my political foes as a greater threat to the nation than the partisan conflict itself."

The quote above said a lot to me. I have definitely contributed to the head butting in this board, but I also feel as if I recognized that. I'm no where close to perfect, but I did recognize what I was doing and feel as if I've changed my approach in a lot of ways.

My point is not the tribalism that you take from the article, but our own involvement in contributing to it, whether we want to admit it or not. That includes you. Your comment of people that NEED to read the article goes to that point. You contribute to the issues of this board as much as myself or anybody else you want to passive aggressively call out.

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Damn!! That's powerful, Steve!!

This tribalism mantra is old to me. People have opinions, some are purely constitutional based, and some cultural based. I see where, the so-called tribalistic crowd, has as many issues with their own political party as they do the other.

Anybody that calls out another as being tribal is trying to assimilate all. That is not what we are supposed to be. So, I provide that the constitution gives equal individual protections that is good for all. The problem we have is when the constitution is ignored by creating powers that just aren't there…

So, tribalism is more of a new phenomenon where some try diminution of others opinions

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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PackFansXL said:

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hokiewolf said:

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https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/this-july-fourth-meet-three-americas?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct

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That was a good article, hokie. Thanks for posting.

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too bad the ones who need to read it won't

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I'm also worried about the ones who think others NEED to read it, but may not recognize their own failures in what they read.

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what tribalism test am I failing this time?

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"There was a time when I lived my life on the polarized wings. I spent more time worried about "the left" than I spent thinking through what part my partisanship played in fraying the American social fabric. I saw the triumph of my political foes as a greater threat to the nation than the partisan conflict itself."

The quote above said a lot to me. I have definitely contributed to the head butting in this board, but I also feel as if I recognized that. I'm no where close to perfect, but I did recognize what I was doing and feel as if I've changed my approach in a lot of ways.

My point is not the tribalism that you take from the article, but our own involvement in contributing to it, whether we want to admit it or not. That includes you. Your comment of people that NEED to read the article goes to that point. You contribute to the issues of this board as much as myself or anybody else you want to passive aggressively call out.

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BBW12OG said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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PackFansXL said:

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hokiewolf said:

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https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/this-july-fourth-meet-three-americas?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct

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That was a good article, hokie. Thanks for posting.

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too bad the ones who need to read it won't

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I'm also worried about the ones who think others NEED to read it, but may not recognize their own failures in what they read.

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what tribalism test am I failing this time?

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"There was a time when I lived my life on the polarized wings. I spent more time worried about "the left" than I spent thinking through what part my partisanship played in fraying the American social fabric. I saw the triumph of my political foes as a greater threat to the nation than the partisan conflict itself."

The quote above said a lot to me. I have definitely contributed to the head butting in this board, but I also feel as if I recognized that. I'm no where close to perfect, but I did recognize what I was doing and feel as if I've changed my approach in a lot of ways.

My point is not the tribalism that you take from the article, but our own involvement in contributing to it, whether we want to admit it or not. That includes you. Your comment of people that NEED to read the article goes to that point. You contribute to the issues of this board as much as myself or anybody else you want to passive aggressively call out.

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Just perusing after the comments made about me in the July 4th thread.

Funny how the person that accuses me and a few others of hijacking threads, being "extremists" and always pushing posters off the board somehow always, always seems to be the provocateur of BS comments and statements.

Passive aggressiveness is a cry for attention. So is lying.

He was directing that at Conservative Posters. Who didn't realize that???? LOL... good ol' Pinocchio.....

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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hokiewolf said:

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PackFansXL said:

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hokiewolf said:

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https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/this-july-fourth-meet-three-americas?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct

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That was a good article, hokie. Thanks for posting.

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too bad the ones who need to read it won't

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I'm also worried about the ones who think others NEED to read it, but may not recognize their own failures in what they read.

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what tribalism test am I failing this time?

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"There was a time when I lived my life on the polarized wings. I spent more time worried about "the left" than I spent thinking through what part my partisanship played in fraying the American social fabric. I saw the triumph of my political foes as a greater threat to the nation than the partisan conflict itself."

The quote above said a lot to me. I have definitely contributed to the head butting in this board, but I also feel as if I recognized that. I'm no where close to perfect, but I did recognize what I was doing and feel as if I've changed my approach in a lot of ways.

My point is not the tribalism that you take from the article, but our own involvement in contributing to it, whether we want to admit it or not. That includes you. Your comment of people that NEED to read the article goes to that point. You contribute to the issues of this board as much as myself or anybody else you want to passive aggressively call out.

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Just perusing after the comments made about me in the July 4th thread.

Funny how the person that accuses me and a few others of hijacking threads, being "extremists" and always pushing posters off the board somehow always, always seems to be the provocateur of BS comments and statements.

Passive aggressiveness is a cry for attention. So is lying.

He was directing that at Conservative Posters. Who didn't realize that???? LOL... good ol' Pinocchio.....

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So it was you!!

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Oldsouljer said:

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caryking said:

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Glasswolf said:

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I could see myself supporting John Kasich

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Glass, Kasich is not a guy I can support, at all. Haley is another I'm not comfortable with. Heck, I'd rather support Tulsi G than N Haley. I may agree on more policies with Haley than Tulsi; however, I think Tulsi would try to eliminate Washington corruption where Haley would work with it…

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Nobody likes a traitor, not even those who used the services of a traitor. Kasich masqueraded for years as something he wasn't, we have enough weasels in DC as it is.

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Werewolf said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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caryking said:

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Glasswolf said:

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I could see myself supporting John Kasich

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Glass, Kasich is not a guy I can support, at all. Haley is another I'm not comfortable with. Heck, I'd rather support Tulsi G than N Haley. I may agree on more policies with Haley than Tulsi; however, I think Tulsi would try to eliminate Washington corruption where Haley would work with it…

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Nobody likes a traitor, not even those who used the services of a traitor. Kasich masqueraded for years as something he wasn't, we have enough weasels in DC as it is.

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Spot on. I was one that believed in Kasich years ago. The scoundrel showed in 2016. RINO pawn.

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Werewolf said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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caryking said:

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Glasswolf said:

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I could see myself supporting John Kasich

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Glass, Kasich is not a guy I can support, at all. Haley is another I'm not comfortable with. Heck, I'd rather support Tulsi G than N Haley. I may agree on more policies with Haley than Tulsi; however, I think Tulsi would try to eliminate Washington corruption where Haley would work with it…

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Nobody likes a traitor, not even those who used the services of a traitor. Kasich masqueraded for years as something he wasn't, we have enough weasels in DC as it is.

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Spot on. I was one that believed in Kasich years ago. The scoundrel showed in 2016. RINO pawn.

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TheStorm said:

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Werewolf said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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caryking said:

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Glasswolf said:

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I could see myself supporting John Kasich

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Glass, Kasich is not a guy I can support, at all. Haley is another I'm not comfortable with. Heck, I'd rather support Tulsi G than N Haley. I may agree on more policies with Haley than Tulsi; however, I think Tulsi would try to eliminate Washington corruption where Haley would work with it…

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Nobody likes a traitor, not even those who used the services of a traitor. Kasich masqueraded for years as something he wasn't, we have enough weasels in DC as it is.

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Spot on. I was one that believed in Kasich years ago. The scoundrel showed in 2016. RINO pawn.

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LOL. That figures!

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Ari Fleischer, the former Bush-era White House press secretary and a current contributor to Fox News, has a new book out titled Suppression, Deception, Snobbery and Bias: Why the Press Gets So Much Wrong, and Just Doesn't Care. What separates this book from a lot of other books by conservatives ripping into the media is how much Fleischer emphasizes that he wants the media to do better work and put out a better product, and the way he lays out how biased media exacerbates American divisions. Fleischer contends that liberal groupthink in the ranks of the media outrages the Right and encourages the Left to embrace its fringe and lose touch with the rest of the country:

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If you are conservative or independent in America, you know the media is not fair. However, conservatives often get this conflict wrong. We misread what they media is trying to do, and we misinterpret why they are doing it. There is no secret meeting where liberals decide how to pervert the news. There is no central source of propaganda. It comes naturally to the media because they're too much alike. They have a diversity problem. . . .

Journalism has a great weakness, an original sin. The people who go into journalism do not represent the breadth and depth of the United States of America. They don't look like America, nor do they sound or think like America. They are overwhelmingly cut from the same cloth, a fabric that is largely liberal, like-minded, and way too unfamiliar with the circumstances and needs of many Americans, especially those without college degrees, those who come from rural areas, and those who are conservative or Republican. It's no wonder the media has a hard time understanding 74 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump's 2020 reelection.

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Glasswolf said:

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List all the members of the White House press corps and their party affiliations please. This is a reporters OPINION that works for the federalist

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