The Biden Administration..V3

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Gulfstream4
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hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin


Not our problem. What's happening in Israel and the Middle East IS our problem. You see the difference, right?
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TheStorm said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Let's talk about a real Biden failure that will ultimately claim thousands of Israeli lives


Israel itself also provided tons of humanitarian aid to Gaza. Because it's basically a prison camp full of starving civilians, and that's what sane people do when they don't want to breed even more militants.

I'm shocked, though, that it took right-wingers a full 30 seconds to make this attack a "Biden failure".


Do you get some kind of Bat-Signal anytime someone says the word Biden? You are Johnny on the spot to deflect or at least TDS.
One-trick pony gotta one-trick pony... it's really all that he / she's capable of.
Ignorance doesn't come close to where this clown resides. His ass should be shipped over to Gaza to stand with like minded people like Omar, Tilaab, Pressley, AOC etc.... dip****s like him don't deserve to live in this country.
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hokiewolf
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Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin


Not our problem. What's happening in Israel and the Middle East IS our problem. You see the difference, right?
no, I do not see the difference. I don't see how this is any different then what Reagan did in the 80s in fighting Russia via proxy war.
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Civilized
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Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
SmaptyWolf
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Let's talk about a real Biden failure that will ultimately claim thousands of Israeli lives


Israel itself also provided tons of humanitarian aid to Gaza. Because it's basically a prison camp full of starving civilians, and that's what sane people do when they don't want to breed even more militants.

I'm shocked, though, that it took right-wingers a full 30 seconds to make this attack a "Biden failure".


Do you get some kind of Bat-Signal anytime someone says the word Biden? You are Johnny on the spot to deflect or at least TDS.
Man I hope not, because you guys are like "ermahgerd this looks bad for Biden!" 78 times a day.
Oldsouljer
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Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.
TheStorm
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Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.
All I can say, is that for the very strongly direct and immediate flip-flop on the Southern Border that just happened by this administration, our intelligence sources must be aware of some very dangerous terrorists that have been released into this country due to the open border issue.

And I'm not doing anything other than stating the obvious.
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?

It's pretty jaw dropping just how ignorant you guys actually are.

You do realize that Putin views the entire West as an adversary that must be taken down in order for Russia to succeed? He's made this pretty clear for ages. Knowing they can't beat us militarily, about a decade ago they launched a new strategy of cyberwar and disinformation, using the West's open social platforms against us, so that we would beat ourselves instead on their behalf.

So now here we are in 2023. A sovereign country in Europe has been invaded for the first time since WW2, the rest of Europe is crapping it's pants to the point that f'ing Sweden (who stayed neutral even during the Nazi thing) asked to join NATO... and you guys are like "Derp! What's our national security interest? Shouldn't we be helping Putin destroy NATO? How do world wars even start, anyway?"
Oldsouljer
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?

It's pretty jaw dropping just how ignorant you guys actually are.

You do realize that Putin views the entire West as an adversary that must be taken down in order for Russia to succeed? He's made this pretty clear for ages. Knowing they can't beat us militarily, about a decade ago they launched a new strategy of cyberwar and disinformation, using the West's open social platforms against us, so that we would beat ourselves instead on their behalf.

So now here we are in 2023. A sovereign country in Europe has been invaded for the first time since WW2, the rest of Europe is crapping it's pants to the point that f'ing Sweden (who stayed neutral even during the Nazi thing) asked to join NATO... and you guys are like "Derp! What's our national security interest? Shouldn't we be helping Putin destroy NATO? How do world wars even start, anyway?"
That's a rather unfair generalization of the board's participants. I agree that Russia today is Germany 1938 going into the Sudetenland, where the Czechs had a decent Army and favorable terrain, only to be sold out by the West. That said, people are less willing to get involved in foreign adventures when their domestic house is falling down. That's just human nature.
BBW12OG
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Oldsouljer said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?

It's pretty jaw dropping just how ignorant you guys actually are.

You do realize that Putin views the entire West as an adversary that must be taken down in order for Russia to succeed? He's made this pretty clear for ages. Knowing they can't beat us militarily, about a decade ago they launched a new strategy of cyberwar and disinformation, using the West's open social platforms against us, so that we would beat ourselves instead on their behalf.

So now here we are in 2023. A sovereign country in Europe has been invaded for the first time since WW2, the rest of Europe is crapping it's pants to the point that f'ing Sweden (who stayed neutral even during the Nazi thing) asked to join NATO... and you guys are like "Derp! What's our national security interest? Shouldn't we be helping Putin destroy NATO? How do world wars even start, anyway?"
That's a rather unfair generalization of the board's participants. I agree that Russia today is Germany 1938 going into the Sudetenland, where the Czechs had a decent Army and favorable terrain, only to be sold out by the West. That said, people are less willing to get involved in foreign adventures when their domestic house is falling down. That's just human nature.
Add in the joke of "bidenomics" being a MAJOR disaster no wonder the resident board dip**** wants to use Ukraine and anything else as a distraction.

Lefties gonna lefty. Flaming libtards like him and a few more here make me feel better everyday of the week that I'm not a crayon eating, window licking mouth breathing, mindless sheep.
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SmaptyWolf
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Oldsouljer said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?

It's pretty jaw dropping just how ignorant you guys actually are.

You do realize that Putin views the entire West as an adversary that must be taken down in order for Russia to succeed? He's made this pretty clear for ages. Knowing they can't beat us militarily, about a decade ago they launched a new strategy of cyberwar and disinformation, using the West's open social platforms against us, so that we would beat ourselves instead on their behalf.

So now here we are in 2023. A sovereign country in Europe has been invaded for the first time since WW2, the rest of Europe is crapping it's pants to the point that f'ing Sweden (who stayed neutral even during the Nazi thing) asked to join NATO... and you guys are like "Derp! What's our national security interest? Shouldn't we be helping Putin destroy NATO? How do world wars even start, anyway?"
That's a rather unfair generalization of the board's participants. I agree that Russia today is Germany 1938 going into the Sudetenland, where the Czechs had a decent Army and favorable terrain, only to be sold out by the West. That said, people are less willing to get involved in foreign adventures when their domestic house is falling down. That's just human nature.
Uh huh. Our domestic house is only "falling down" in your mind because a Dem is in the White House.

Somewhere along the way you guys lost the ability to separate domestic partisan bull**** from our actual national security issues. Which actually makes you guys our biggest national security issue.
Civilized
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Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.

No need to be coy about it.

Immigrants aren't "invaders." That language connotes foreign militaries or terror organizations that maliciously attack the US.
packgrad
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SmaptyWolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?

It's pretty jaw dropping just how ignorant you guys actually are.

You do realize that Putin views the entire West as an adversary that must be taken down in order for Russia to succeed? He's made this pretty clear for ages. Knowing they can't beat us militarily, about a decade ago they launched a new strategy of cyberwar and disinformation, using the West's open social platforms against us, so that we would beat ourselves instead on their behalf.

So now here we are in 2023. A sovereign country in Europe has been invaded for the first time since WW2, the rest of Europe is crapping it's pants to the point that f'ing Sweden (who stayed neutral even during the Nazi thing) asked to join NATO... and you guys are like "Derp! What's our national security interest? Shouldn't we be helping Putin destroy NATO? How do world wars even start, anyway?"
That's a rather unfair generalization of the board's participants. I agree that Russia today is Germany 1938 going into the Sudetenland, where the Czechs had a decent Army and favorable terrain, only to be sold out by the West. That said, people are less willing to get involved in foreign adventures when their domestic house is falling down. That's just human nature.
Uh huh. Our "domestic house" is only falling down in your mind because a Dem is in the White House.

Somewhere along the way you guys lost the ability to separate domestic partisan bull**** from our actual national security issues. Which actually makes you guys our biggest national security issue.


Imagine being the dumbass crying about partisanship then saying the other side is the biggest national security issue. This guy is such an ignorant clown. Lol. He probably booed BA this weekend too. Typical of his ilk.
packgrad
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Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.

No need to be coy about it.

Immigrants aren't "invaders." That language connotes foreign militaries or terror organizations that maliciously attack the US.


No it doesn't. People illegally crossing the border are as much "invaders" as they are "immigrants". You just want to put a pretty bow on it.
Oldsouljer
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Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.

No need to be coy about it.

Immigrants aren't "invaders." That language connotes foreign militaries or terror organizations that maliciously attack the US.
And invaders aren't immigrants. There is intel indicating that foreign military personnel, terrorists, and other dangerous aliens have successfully come through through the border. The rest are dangerous because they're overwhelming our public services. I know you see no threat but I do, and apparently so do a ton of others because all of a sudden, a guy not named Trump is rushing to emplace a wall.
SmaptyWolf
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Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.

No need to be coy about it.

Immigrants aren't "invaders." That language connotes foreign militaries or terror organizations that maliciously attack the US.
And invaders aren't immigrants. There is intel indicating that foreign military personnel, terrorists, and other dangerous aliens have successfully come through through the border. The rest are dangerous because they're overwhelming our public services. I know you see no threat but I do, and apparently so do a ton of others because all of a sudden, a guy not named Trump is rushing to emplace a wall.
If there's intel indicating that foreign military personnel and terrorists are sneaking in, how do you have this intel and our government doesn't? If our government has the intel then they've already been apprehended... problem solved. Or maybe Fox News is full of it? Another strong possibility.

Also, how do you imagine illegals are overwhelming our public services? How much do you think illegals actually pay in state taxes (i.e. sales tax), compared to the small handful of serviced they're even eligible for? Hint: Regardless of Trump's fan fiction, they pay WAY more than they get.
Oldsouljer
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SmaptyWolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.

No need to be coy about it.

Immigrants aren't "invaders." That language connotes foreign militaries or terror organizations that maliciously attack the US.
And invaders aren't immigrants. There is intel indicating that foreign military personnel, terrorists, and other dangerous aliens have successfully come through through the border. The rest are dangerous because they're overwhelming our public services. I know you see no threat but I do, and apparently so do a ton of others because all of a sudden, a guy not named Trump is rushing to emplace a wall.
If there's intel indicating that foreign military personnel and terrorists are sneaking in, how do you have this intel and our government doesn't? If our government has the intel then they've already been apprehended... problem solved. Or maybe Fox News is full of it? Another strong possibility.

Also, how do you imagine illegals are overwhelming our public services? How much do you think illegals actually pay in state taxes (i.e. sales tax), compared to the small handful of serviced they're even eligible for? Hint: Regardless of Trump's fan fiction, they pay WAY more than they get.
I don't really want to debate deliberate obtuseness today but thanks for the offer.
Civilized
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packgrad said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.

No need to be coy about it.

Immigrants aren't "invaders." That language connotes foreign militaries or terror organizations that maliciously attack the US.


No it doesn't. People illegally crossing the border are as much "invaders" as they are "immigrants". You just want to put a pretty bow on it.

There's not much pretty about the Mexican border immigration challenges.

There's also no reason to make it more fraught than it already is.

"Immigrant" is a fairly neutral noun. "Invader" is militarized, implies malice, and is unnecessarily inflammatory.

You don't call someone that attempts to move from point A to point B an "invader" of point B unless they are moving to point B with explicit intent to do harm to the people that live there.

Or, I guess, unless you're conservative media trying to frame immigrants as evil-doers and rile up the base.
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Oldsouljer said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.

No need to be coy about it.

Immigrants aren't "invaders." That language connotes foreign militaries or terror organizations that maliciously attack the US.
And invaders aren't immigrants. There is intel indicating that foreign military personnel, terrorists, and other dangerous aliens have successfully come through through the border. The rest are dangerous because they're overwhelming our public services. I know you see no threat but I do, and apparently so do a ton of others because all of a sudden, a guy not named Trump is rushing to emplace a wall.
If there's intel indicating that foreign military personnel and terrorists are sneaking in, how do you have this intel and our government doesn't? If our government has the intel then they've already been apprehended... problem solved. Or maybe Fox News is full of it? Another strong possibility.

Also, how do you imagine illegals are overwhelming our public services? How much do you think illegals actually pay in state taxes (i.e. sales tax), compared to the small handful of serviced they're even eligible for? Hint: Regardless of Trump's fan fiction, they pay WAY more than they get.
I don't really want to debate deliberate obtuseness today but thanks for the offer.
You're the one that believes that "intel" exists about foreign military invaders that our government is apparently ignoring. I'm sure Fox News showed b-roll of a Hezbollah training camp when they breathlessly reported that, but if you think about it for 5 seconds you don't think that sounds kinda dumb?
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.

No need to be coy about it.

Immigrants aren't "invaders." That language connotes foreign militaries or terror organizations that maliciously attack the US.


No it doesn't. People illegally crossing the border are as much "invaders" as they are "immigrants". You just want to put a pretty bow on it.

There's not much pretty about the Mexican border immigration challenges.

There's also no reason to make it more fraught than it already is.

"Immigrant" is a fairly neutral noun. "Invader" is militarized, implies malice, and is unnecessarily inflammatory.

You don't call someone that attempts to move from point A to point B an "invader" of point B unless they are moving to point B with explicit intent to do harm to the people that live there.

Or, I guess, unless you're conservative media trying to frame immigrants as evil-doers and rile up the base.
Ok, so that's your viewpoint. Got it. But Conservative media aside and notwithstanding, ordinary folks from all walks of life and both major parties seem to have another opinion. Recent rallies and complaints by urban African-Americans over this issue predictably likely prompted the administrations sudden turnabout vis-a-vis the Wall. When you feel threatened, invader is as good a term as any.
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Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.

No need to be coy about it.

Immigrants aren't "invaders." That language connotes foreign militaries or terror organizations that maliciously attack the US.


No it doesn't. People illegally crossing the border are as much "invaders" as they are "immigrants". You just want to put a pretty bow on it.

There's not much pretty about the Mexican border immigration challenges.

There's also no reason to make it more fraught than it already is.

"Immigrant" is a fairly neutral noun. "Invader" is militarized, implies malice, and is unnecessarily inflammatory.

You don't call someone that attempts to move from point A to point B an "invader" of point B unless they are moving to point B with explicit intent to do harm to the people that live there.

Or, I guess, unless you're conservative media trying to frame immigrants as evil-doers and rile up the base.
Ok, so that's your viewpoint. Got it. But Conservative media aside and notwithstanding, ordinary folks from all walks of life and both major parties seem to have another opinion. Recent rallies and complaints by urban African-Americans over this issue predictably likely prompted the administrations sudden turnabout vis-a-vis the Wall. When you feel threatened, invader is as good a term as any.

Oh I see.

So you're conflating legal asylum seekers with illegal immigrants and villains sneaking across the border. And you're conflating the massive influx of legal asylum seekers overwhelming cities' homeless services with the illegal immigrant population somehow mooching off of the system from the shadows. And you're conflating Biden being forced to build a small stretch of wall because the money was already appropriated and congress wouldn't let him redirect it with some philosophical 180.

Got it!
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SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

Reporter asked him if the wall works and Biden responded "no". Does he really think people are so stupid to believe this bs…

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-claims-choice-build-trumps-border-wall/story?id=103757017

"Money was appropriated for the border wall," Biden told reporters, referring to congressional action during the Trump administration. "I tried to get them to reappropriate -- to redirect the money. They didn't, they wouldn't. And in the meantime, there's nothing under the law other than they have to use the money for what is appropriated. I can't stop that."

Because to anyone who's spent more than 3 minutes thinking about it, it's obvious the answer is "no".

You think some woman is going to walk across a continent, through deserts and rapists, risking everything to sneak into the U.S., and then get to the wall and say "Dammit! Ok, let's turn it around!"

Lol, yeah ok.


Of course they don't work with Biden running the country. Biden administration has border patrol cut openings in barriers to let them in. He is do nothing but deploying more bodies to process their entry faster.

A border wall to reduce entry points would allow officials to focus in smaller areas. Add to that enforcement of laws for illegal entries would help secure the border. But that takes an administration that views border crossings as illegal entry, which the Biden administration does not.
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Two days later, Biden finally puts out a statement in a press release. What an absolute embarrassment.
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I invite any of you people to come down to the border states and get a glimpse for yourself. We are over run with illegals. Let me tell you something, big portion of these illegals are young men.. if you don't think big trouble is ahead guess again. We have let the enemy come right through our front door. I don't think we will ever live without fear much past 2025. Thats what we can thank the current administration for doing to America.
We will be third world country at this rate. Where are these people going to work? How are they going to support themselves? Do they even want to support themselves? Plenty of do nothings just hanging around happy with the handouts. Don't believe me, come take a look.

Thanks for the post packofwolves, people need to wake up not woke up.
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Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?
defeat of Putin
That's pretty much what Milley said the other night in a sixty minutes interview. Problem is, neither he nor his master Biden understand that Americans don't get why they should care about that when our own country is being invaded. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to stop the Russians too, but Biden isn't even bothering to address the concerns that undermine the popular will to support Ukraine.

Invaded??

By who?
You tell me. Every state in the union is a border state to hear the cries from blue and red state politicians alike.

No need to be coy about it.

Immigrants aren't "invaders." That language connotes foreign militaries or terror organizations that maliciously attack the US.
They are invaders, pure and simple. Anybody that crosses into someone's space/land, without an invitation, is invading!!

Now, what you are trying to say is the outright invitation, by Biden, from the beginning. So, you're right… how can it be an invasion when you're invited!!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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Civil unrest and violence provides a perfect excuse...............
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Pay attention to the HAMAS attacks in Israel. We already have invaders behind our lines (our border).....who are they......who are they, really......?

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I think I noticed a poster here insist that BIden admin didn't give Iran $6B.

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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

This looks incredibly bad for the Biden Administration

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25


There's a Stars and Stripe (Military Paper) report that is saying weapons being sent Ukraine are being stolen. That report came out last month. Man, it would be really sad if our weapons ended up being what was used against Israel…

Incidentally, are you opposed to military aid to Israel also? Or do you only oppose military aid to countries that Putin is currently fighting?


The U. S. has a National security interest in Israel. What is our National security interests in Ukraine?

It's pretty jaw dropping just how ignorant you guys actually are.

You do realize that Putin views the entire West as an adversary that must be taken down in order for Russia to succeed? He's made this pretty clear for ages. Knowing they can't beat us militarily, about a decade ago they launched a new strategy of cyberwar and disinformation, using the West's open social platforms against us, so that we would beat ourselves instead on their behalf.

So now here we are in 2023. A sovereign country in Europe has been invaded for the first time since WW2, the rest of Europe is crapping it's pants to the point that f'ing Sweden (who stayed neutral even during the Nazi thing) asked to join NATO... and you guys are like "Derp! What's our national security interest? Shouldn't we be helping Putin destroy NATO? How do world wars even start, anyway?"


Haha hahahaha! You are not having a good day.
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Approximately 15,000 terrorists have been arrested at the southern border since 2021.
That means at least that many got in.
6-10 man cells.. how many cells per state.
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Redwolf said:

Approximately 15,000 terrorists have been arrested at the southern border since 2021.
That means at least that many got in.
6-10 man cells.. how many cells per state.

Link?
caryking
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Civilized said:

Redwolf said:

Approximately 15,000 terrorists have been arrested at the southern border since 2021.
That means at least that many got in.
6-10 man cells.. how many cells per state.

Link?


Does it really matter? If it's not one of the mainstream networks, you want give it any credibility anyway…
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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