Joint Chiefs chairman worried Trump would attempt a coup

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In the days after the November presidential election, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley was concerned about what Donald Trump might do in order to stay in power, and discussed with other leaders how to block Trump should he order the military to do something dangerous or illegal

https://theweek.com/politics/1002626/new-book-says-joint-chiefs-chairman-worried-trump-would-attempt-a-coup

After the Jan. 6 Capitol attack, Milley made it clear during logistical meetings to discuss President Biden's inauguration that they would "put a ring of steel around this city and the Nazis aren't getting in


https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/youre-gonna-have-a-****ing-war-mark-milleys-fight-to-stop-trump-from-striking-iran

There were two "nightmare scenarios," Milley told associates, for the period after the November 3rd election, which resulted in Trump's defeat but not his concession: one was that Trump would try "to use the military on the streets of America to prevent the legitimate, peaceful transfer of power." The other was an external crisis involving Iran. It was not public at the time, but Milley believed that the nation had come close"very close"to conflict with the Islamic Republic. This dangerous post-election period, Milley said, was all because of Trump's "Hitler"-like embrace of the "Big Lie" that the election had been stolen from him; Milley feared it was Trump's "Reichstag moment," in which, like Adolf Hitler in 1933, he would manufacture a crisis in order to swoop in and rescue the nation from it.

Trump reportedly ended a meeting with his national security advisers on an ominous note days before the Capitol riot
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These writers know they can make money from the TDS sheep.
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packgrad said:

These writers know they can make money from the TDS sheep.
there are other books that have been written that say the opposite and that Trump never considered anything but a peaceful transition.
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hokiewolf said:

packgrad said:

These writers know they can make money from the TDS sheep.
there are other books that have been written that say the opposite and that Trump never considered anything but a peaceful transition.


Ok
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Has anything the media said were "bombshell stories over the last 4 years concerning Trump been correct? This is just another made up media narrative.
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Biden and the communist Democrats and their RINO allies made the coup...stealing the Presidency, the 2 Georgia Senate seats, and other offices in the blatantly rigged "election".
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ciscopack said:

In the days after the November presidential election, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley was concerned about what Donald Trump might do in order to stay in power, and discussed with other leaders how to block Trump should he order the military to do something dangerous or illegal

https://theweek.com/politics/1002626/new-book-says-joint-chiefs-chairman-worried-trump-would-attempt-a-coup

After the Jan. 6 Capitol attack, Milley made it clear during logistical meetings to discuss President Biden's inauguration that they would "put a ring of steel around this city and the Nazis aren't getting in


https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/youre-gonna-have-a-****ing-war-mark-milleys-fight-to-stop-trump-from-striking-iran

There were two "nightmare scenarios," Milley told associates, for the period after the November 3rd election, which resulted in Trump's defeat but not his concession: one was that Trump would try "to use the military on the streets of America to prevent the legitimate, peaceful transfer of power." The other was an external crisis involving Iran. It was not public at the time, but Milley believed that the nation had come close"very close"to conflict with the Islamic Republic. This dangerous post-election period, Milley said, was all because of Trump's "Hitler"-like embrace of the "Big Lie" that the election had been stolen from him; Milley feared it was Trump's "Reichstag moment," in which, like Adolf Hitler in 1933, he would manufacture a crisis in order to swoop in and rescue the nation from it.

Trump reportedly ended a meeting with his national security advisers on an ominous note days before the Capitol riot



What a great fantasy novel this guy will write.
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Seek out Warroom by Steve Bannon. You can find his show at Americasvoice.news daily between 10:00 and 5:00. Tomorrow morning, they are going to be addressing a bunch issues with people that were in the room when crap happened. They spoke of some of these books being released and they will tell you who the anonymous sources are in these books.

BTW, General Millie needs to be Court Martial'd....
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It's funny that everyone seems to be worried about all the crazy things that Trump might of done, even though none of them ever happened, but the same people didn't seem to care about stuff like this in 2017 when DC was on fire an people were on stage yelling about wanting to blow up the White House while Trump's inauguration was going on.

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cowboypack02 said:

It's funny that everyone seems to be worried about all the crazy things that Trump might of done, even though none of them ever happened, but the same people didn't seem to care about stuff like this in 2017 when DC was on fire an people were on stage yelling about wanting to blow up the White House while Trump's inauguration was going on.


It wouldn't have mattered who it was... could have been Cruz, Jeb Bush, Rubio or whoever else had an (R) next to their name and they'd have done the exact same thing. That's just how they roll.
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Just wondering which media conglomerate this guy writes for? (The General; Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.)

Mark Alexander Milley (born June 18, 1958) is a United States Army general and the 20th chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He previously served as the 39th chief of staff of the Army.

On December 8, 2018, President Donald Trump announced that he would nominate Milley to serve as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

General Milley

Trump's New Joint Chiefs Chair Is A Savvy Political Operator

"When he was with President Obama, he was 'General Milley, the Princeton graduate'," said one current Army officer familiar with Milley's leadership style. "When he's with President Trump's team, he's 'General Milley, the hockey player'."

Now, the question is how Milley will handle advising one of the most mercurial U.S. presidents in history, at a deeply unsettled moment in American politics and across the globe. Now in his third year in office, Trump has churned through three national security advisors, two defense secretaries, and a national intelligence director. He is on his second secretary of state. Meanwhile, his administration has lurched unevenly toward a possible conflict with Iran, sought and then rejected a withdrawal from Afghanistan, and carried out an escalating airstrike campaign in Africa at a time when the Pentagon is supposed to be shifting gears to counter threats from Russia and China, not terrorism.
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But in the last several days, after accompanying the president from the White House to a church in his camouflage uniform as National Guard troops in helmets and riot gear deployed across the country, General Milley has quickly become the face of what could amount to the American military's fall from public grace, to levels not seen since the Vietnam War.

"Milley (he's a general !?!?) should not have walked over to the church with Trump," Michael Hayden, the retired Air Force general who has directed both the National Security Agency and the C.I.A., said on Twitter, noting that he "was appalled to see him in his battle dress."

General Milley's decision to join Mr. Trump "was an egregious display of bad judgment, at best," said Paul D. Eaton, a retired major general and veteran of the Iraq war, who now serves as a senior adviser at VoteVets.org. "At worst, Milley appears confused about the oath he took to support and defend the Constitution not a president. I suggest the general get quickly unconfused, or resign."

General Milley, his friends say, has agonized over the events of the past week. But he has also managed to persuade Mr. Trump not to invoke the 1807 Insurrection Act to deploy active-duty troops across the country to quell protests, a line that a number of American military officials say they will not cross, even if the president orders it.

Milley, America's Top General, Walks Into a Political Battle
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Now, the question is how Milley will handle advising one of the most mercurial U.S. presidents in history, at a deeply unsettled moment in American politics and across the globe. Now in his third year in office, Trump has churned through three national security advisors, two defense secretaries, and a national intelligence director. He is on his second secretary of state. Meanwhile, his administration has lurched unevenly toward a possible conflict with Iran, sought and then rejected a withdrawal from Afghanistan, and carried out an escalating airstrike campaign in Africa at a time when the Pentagon is supposed to be shifting gears to counter threats from Russia and China, not terrorism.
Are we supposed to be less "deeply unsettled" during this time period? We now have a POTUS who is led around by the nose by junior congressmen, preaches that America is deeply racist and always has been, openly lies about voting integrity laws, declares the filibuster that he once wrote a passionate defense of is somehow suddenly "racist", pursues abortion on demand at any stage of the child's life, spends our taxes on unions who fund his political party, encourages open borders, promotes incompetent people based solely on gender and race, undermines females in sports, invites the UN to review America's "racist" history and current culture, usurps power beyond his constitutional authority, demands overtly racist teachings be invoked on our children, and spends money like it is just a number. Does this administration embody the Fourth Turning more or less than the last administration?
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Expect no reply. All they have is but Trump.
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Miley had the so-called intelligence that something was going to happen on Jan 6th. In fact, every department in Washington had the same intelligence.

Why did they do nothing? You all know why!!!!! This was a deliberate attempt (succeeded) to discredit the President.

BTW, Millie is a disgrace to the military! His testimonies are absolutely despicable. He is reveling in CRT, and every other communist leader.

Also, (changing the subject) why is our government saying the Cuban refugees will be told they will be turned around if they try to come to the US. At the same time, they are allowing the mess at our border? Here's your answer: border means constituents, Cubans mean Republicans!

All of that and the group that has a real asylum seeking reason are the Cubans!! What the F???
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This is EXTREMELY alarming. What is actually occurring in this country is a communist takeover, and now you have this communist lackey General demonizing as the "enemy" the portion of the American public who are Patriots who love freedom and are resisting the Marxist agenda.

https://instagr.am/p/CRaP1D6t8fP

The Biden administration and Leftist Establishment are labeling the right and Trump supporters as "extremists" and potential "domestic terrorists". Of course, they are using the January 6th DC protest at the Capitol (which FBI agent provocateurs inflamed to frame the Right-wing) as the primary "evidence" to do this. They recently had the FBI announce for citizens to report people to the government who are "extremists", which was thinly veiled to target those on the right-wing. And you just had Facebook come out with an "extremist" warning on their site, which only targets those on the ideological right wing.

Meanwhile, they totally support REAL domestic terrorist organizations like BLM and Antifa, who burn down cities and assault and murder people, in order to terrorize people into supporting their ideology and political agenda.
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GuerrillaPack said:

This is EXTREMELY alarming. What is actually occurring in this country is a communist takeover, and now you have this communist lackey General demonizing as the "enemy" the portion of the American public who are Patriots who love freedom and are resisting the Marxist agenda.

https://instagr.am/p/CRaP1D6t8fP

The Biden administration and Leftist Establishment are labeling the right and Trump supporters as "extremists" and potential "domestic terrorists". Of course, they are using the January 6th DC protest at the Capitol (which FBI agent provocateurs inflamed to frame the Right-wing) as the primary "evidence" to do this. They recently had the FBI announce for citizens to report people to the government who are "extremists", which was thinly veiled to target those on the right-wing. And you just had Facebook come out with an "extremist" warning on their site, which only targets those on the ideological right wing.

Meanwhile, they totally support REAL domestic terrorist organizations like BLM and Antifa, who burn down cities and assault and murder people, in order to terrorize people into supporting their ideology and political agenda.

Trump hired the man too!

Look Biden ain't doing 1/2 the things right in my book but he's nothing like win at any cost Trump or take over the democracy. Trump's a NUT. Biden has left the middle too much and following leftist nuts. I think his age has changed him some? I'm for looking after the pandemic and getting through it but all the free money given out is f'ing NUTS. There's a great place somewhere in between....following science and putting people back to work at the office, in the field or at home. The gifts are FRUITY!

I'm tired of nuts on either side....Pelosi is as nutty as Trump but she will follow laws. F'ing shame we can't do better!
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ciscopack said:

GuerrillaPack said:

This is EXTREMELY alarming. What is actually occurring in this country is a communist takeover, and now you have this communist lackey General demonizing as the "enemy" the portion of the American public who are Patriots who love freedom and are resisting the Marxist agenda.

https://instagr.am/p/CRaP1D6t8fP

The Biden administration and Leftist Establishment are labeling the right and Trump supporters as "extremists" and potential "domestic terrorists". Of course, they are using the January 6th DC protest at the Capitol (which FBI agent provocateurs inflamed to frame the Right-wing) as the primary "evidence" to do this. They recently had the FBI announce for citizens to report people to the government who are "extremists", which was thinly veiled to target those on the right-wing. And you just had Facebook come out with an "extremist" warning on their site, which only targets those on the ideological right wing.

Meanwhile, they totally support REAL domestic terrorist organizations like BLM and Antifa, who burn down cities and assault and murder people, in order to terrorize people into supporting their ideology and political agenda.

Trump hired the man too!

Look Biden ain't doing 1/2 the things right in my book but he's nothing like win at any cost Trump or take over the democracy. Trump's a NUT. Biden has left the middle too much and following leftist nuts. I think his age has changed him some? I'm for looking after the pandemic and getting through it but all the free money given out is f'ing NUTS. There's a great place somewhere in between....following science and putting people back to work at the office, in the field or at home. The gifts are FRUITY!

I'm tired of nuts on either side....Pelosi is as nutty as Trump but she will follow laws. F'ing shame we can't do better!


"Muh democracy". I don't support Trump, as he was actually just another RINO Establishment puppet and fake conservative. He put a lot of "Swamp creatures" in power, including a couple closet Leftists on the Supreme Court.

It's funny how Leftists act like they are the "biggest champions of democracy", and yet they are the biggest enemies of freedom of speech and primarily concern themselves with whining about and advocating for conservatives to be silenced. Newsflash...the fundamental concept of democracy is that every person has a voice and say in how our society is governed and run. That means more freedom of speech...not less.

And now the Biden Administration is advocating for ramping up the already heavy hand of censorship by Leftist-run Big Tech, so that anyone disagreeing with the Leftist narrative should be banned off of all social media platforms, labeling right-wing views "misinformation".

The Marxist Left are the biggest enemies of democracy - instead favoring an authoritarian big government, an ideological elite telling the "peon" masses what to believe and marginalizing grassroots views, repression and silencing of their political opposition, and rigged/fraudulent elections to remain in power.
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GuerrillaPack said:

ciscopack said:

GuerrillaPack said:

This is EXTREMELY alarming. What is actually occurring in this country is a communist takeover, and now you have this communist lackey General demonizing as the "enemy" the portion of the American public who are Patriots who love freedom and are resisting the Marxist agenda.

https://instagr.am/p/CRaP1D6t8fP

The Biden administration and Leftist Establishment are labeling the right and Trump supporters as "extremists" and potential "domestic terrorists". Of course, they are using the January 6th DC protest at the Capitol (which FBI agent provocateurs inflamed to frame the Right-wing) as the primary "evidence" to do this. They recently had the FBI announce for citizens to report people to the government who are "extremists", which was thinly veiled to target those on the right-wing. And you just had Facebook come out with an "extremist" warning on their site, which only targets those on the ideological right wing.

Meanwhile, they totally support REAL domestic terrorist organizations like BLM and Antifa, who burn down cities and assault and murder people, in order to terrorize people into supporting their ideology and political agenda.

Trump hired the man too!

Look Biden ain't doing 1/2 the things right in my book but he's nothing like win at any cost Trump or take over the democracy. Trump's a NUT. Biden has left the middle too much and following leftist nuts. I think his age has changed him some? I'm for looking after the pandemic and getting through it but all the free money given out is f'ing NUTS. There's a great place somewhere in between....following science and putting people back to work at the office, in the field or at home. The gifts are FRUITY!

I'm tired of nuts on either side....Pelosi is as nutty as Trump but she will follow laws. F'ing shame we can't do better!


"Muh democracy". I don't support Trump, as he was actually just another RINO Establishment puppet and fake conservative. He put a lot of "Swamp creatures" in power, including a couple closet Leftists on the Supreme Court.

It's funny how Leftists act like they are the "biggest champions of democracy", and yet they are the biggest enemies of freedom of speech and primarily concern themselves with whining about and advocating for conservatives to be silenced. Newsflash...the fundamental concept of democracy is that every person has a voice and say in how our society is governed and run. That means more freedom of speech...not less.

And now the Biden Administration is advocating for ramping up the already heavy hand of censorship by Leftist-run Big Tech, so that anyone disagreeing with the Leftist narrative should be banned off of all social media platforms, labeling right-wing views "misinformation".

The Marxist Left are the biggest enemies of democracy - instead favoring an authoritarian big government, an ideological elite telling the "peon" masses what to believe and marginalizing grassroots views, repression and silencing of their political opposition, and rigged/fraudulent elections to remain in power.
GP, I do support Trump, well his agenda MAGA. MAGA is the furthest thing from taking over democracy as Cisco said. Trump certainly had HORRIBLE people surrounding him, except for people like Peter Navarro and Steve Cortes. Those two guys are as pro America for the working class as it gets!!

Biden has done one thing right in my book: he is continued all the Trump China Policies. Now, had he continued much of the other policies, like the border... well, he would move up a notch. All Biden and his team of radicals had to do was not touch certain Trump policies and he would have a stronger favorable rating.

Cisco, other than speech you probably didn't like of Trumps, what policies did you disagree with?
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ciscopack said:

GuerrillaPack said:

This is EXTREMELY alarming. What is actually occurring in this country is a communist takeover, and now you have this communist lackey General demonizing as the "enemy" the portion of the American public who are Patriots who love freedom and are resisting the Marxist agenda.

https://instagr.am/p/CRaP1D6t8fP

The Biden administration and Leftist Establishment are labeling the right and Trump supporters as "extremists" and potential "domestic terrorists". Of course, they are using the January 6th DC protest at the Capitol (which FBI agent provocateurs inflamed to frame the Right-wing) as the primary "evidence" to do this. They recently had the FBI announce for citizens to report people to the government who are "extremists", which was thinly veiled to target those on the right-wing. And you just had Facebook come out with an "extremist" warning on their site, which only targets those on the ideological right wing.

Meanwhile, they totally support REAL domestic terrorist organizations like BLM and Antifa, who burn down cities and assault and murder people, in order to terrorize people into supporting their ideology and political agenda.

Trump hired the man too!

Look Biden ain't doing 1/2 the things right in my book but he's nothing like win at any cost Trump or take over the democracy. Trump's a NUT. Biden has left the middle too much and following leftist nuts. I think his age has changed him some? I'm for looking after the pandemic and getting through it but all the free money given out is f'ing NUTS. There's a great place somewhere in between....following science and putting people back to work at the office, in the field or at home. The gifts are FRUITY!

I'm tired of nuts on either side....Pelosi is as nutty as Trump but she will follow laws. F'ing shame we can't do better!
Can you elaborate on this and give me a few examples of something that Trump did that hasn't already been done before him in terms of our "democracy"? I ask because I didn't see it....although maybe I missed something

I mean he didn't really do anything like tell people that the intelligence community had six ways from Sunday to get you if you went against them...I could of missed it but I don't remember him just ignoring court orders and doing what he wanted anyway....I certainly don't remember him working with lawyers to have state officials that were of the same party change the election laws, ignoring the constitution.....It must of slipped my mind where the FBI took opposition research and turned it into a absolute crusade against a political candidate.....I don't remember where any of the SC justices that were nominated by democrats were treated anything close to the way that Thomas, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, or Barrett were.....I don't remember before Trump where the political party that was in charge of congress held secret hearings about what the president, came out and lied/leaked everything they could, and then it came out months/years later that what they lied about never actually happened. Just for good measure I don't remember the media doing an absolute smear job on another president previously either, or since then with Biden.

Edited to add - I don't remember a republican AG for a state saying they were going to go after an opposition party like the NY AG said and is doing, nor do I remember people who had anything to do with a president being persecuted the way the folks have worked for Trump have. Going after Trump's guy for the benefits that he got that he didn't pay taxes on and punishing him the way that they did is a joke. Everyone that I know who owns a business does the exact same thing and they aren't being punished for that.

And finally, although I disagree with what happened in DC earlier this year during the certification of electors....I think we should all be able to look at what has happened to the people who participated in things like setting entire cities on fire over the last year, or destroying federal courthouses and police departments, or going after people who they disagreed with politically as they left the white house during a political event last year....and say that the people who attended one of these events are treated completely different than the others. Before you respond to this particular comment I want you to remember that not a single person what charged when AOC led a group of protesters into the Hart building and occupied Pelosi's office, and not a single person was charged when Chuck Schumer let a group of protesters to the Supreme Court and were beating on the doors. I also don't remember any punishment that was nearly as severe as anything that the folks are getting now when in 2017 during Trump's inauguration people were burning down DC and giving speeches about blowing up the White House.

While you may like not like Trump, you can't deny that of the two political parties in this country one of them is on a whole other level when it comes to "win at all cost" and it ain't the party that Trump was in charge of until he lost the election....
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and add in that the Shaman (man with the horns) is still in jail. What did he do? Tress-passed? What else did he do that violated a law?

Once you answer that question, please add in why he should still be in jail...
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

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pineknollshoresking said:

and add in that the Shaman (man with the horns) is still in jail. What did he do? Tress-passed? What else did he do that violated a law?

Once you answer that question, please add in why he should still be in jail...
Wait, BBW has horns?!
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pineknollshoresking said:

and add in that the Shaman (man with the horns) is still in jail. What did he do? Tress-passed? What else did he do that violated a law?

Once you answer that question, please add in why he should still be in jail...
I actually have a theory to this...although I could be wrong.


Here is what the people who ended up getting arrested on 1/6 saw over the last year
  • media cover all of the violence last year as "mostly peaceful protest"
  • democrat politicians cheer on the people who were rioting last year and setting up bail funds for people who actually got arrested and held
  • prosecutors who were in charge of actually pressing charges against the folks who were rioting let people go with no charges at all
  • Sheriff offices taken over, a federal courthouse trashed, and a couple square blocks of Seattle taken over and the people who took it over actually said they were separate from the US and there were no charges in any of these.
  • Federal and state property torn down and destroyed with no one held accountable at all, even through there was video evidence

If I was a protestor, those are the rules so why should I be treated any differently then the 100s of thousands of people last year who did the exact same thing?

I believe that the protestors didn't take into account that justice is not blind and that there are two different tiers of justice in this country...one if your a democrat or you have a "supported cause" and one if your not. Unfortunately the protestors are finding that out.
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cowboypack02 said:

pineknollshoresking said:

and add in that the Shaman (man with the horns) is still in jail. What did he do? Tress-passed? What else did he do that violated a law?

Once you answer that question, please add in why he should still be in jail...
I actually have a theory to this...although I could be wrong.


Here is what the people who ended up getting arrested on 1/6 saw over the last year
  • media cover all of the violence last year as "mostly peaceful protest"
  • democrat politicians cheer on the people who were rioting last year and setting up bail funds for people who actually got arrested and held
  • prosecutors who were in charge of actually pressing charges against the folks who were rioting let people go with no charges at all
  • Sheriff offices taken over, a federal courthouse trashed, and a couple square blocks of Seattle taken over and the people who took it over actually said they were separate from the US and there were no charges in any of these.
  • Federal and state property torn down and destroyed with no one held accountable at all, even through there was video evidence

If I was a protestor, those are the rules so why should I be treated any differently then the 100s of thousands of people last year who did the exact same thing?

I believe that the protestors didn't take into account that justice is not blind and that there are two different tiers of justice in this country...one if your a democrat or you have a "supported cause" and one if your not. Unfortunately the protestors are finding that out.
All I can say is: there are no ends in which an autocratic administration will see.
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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pineknollshoresking said:

cowboypack02 said:

pineknollshoresking said:

and add in that the Shaman (man with the horns) is still in jail. What did he do? Tress-passed? What else did he do that violated a law?

Once you answer that question, please add in why he should still be in jail...
I actually have a theory to this...although I could be wrong.


Here is what the people who ended up getting arrested on 1/6 saw over the last year
  • media cover all of the violence last year as "mostly peaceful protest"
  • democrat politicians cheer on the people who were rioting last year and setting up bail funds for people who actually got arrested and held
  • prosecutors who were in charge of actually pressing charges against the folks who were rioting let people go with no charges at all
  • Sheriff offices taken over, a federal courthouse trashed, and a couple square blocks of Seattle taken over and the people who took it over actually said they were separate from the US and there were no charges in any of these.
  • Federal and state property torn down and destroyed with no one held accountable at all, even through there was video evidence

If I was a protestor, those are the rules so why should I be treated any differently then the 100s of thousands of people last year who did the exact same thing?

I believe that the protestors didn't take into account that justice is not blind and that there are two different tiers of justice in this country...one if your a democrat or you have a "supported cause" and one if your not. Unfortunately the protestors are finding that out.
All I can say is: there are no ends in which an autocratic administration will see.
It sounds like it's getting close to the time when Napoleon sends Boxer off to the glue factory...
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