White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
Mormad said:Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
Oh Lord, here we go. Where's my damn popcorn. This gone be epic.
Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
this is for Mormad and Civ...Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
pineknollshoresking said:this is for Mormad and Civ...Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
All people should be proud of their heritage, whether good or bad. You may find things in your ancestry that you might disagree with; however, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be generally proud.
I am southerner and I am proud of my Southern Heritage. This includes the Confederate Flag. Oh, and BTW, one of my best friends growing up, in Cary, was a black person. He spent the night at my house regularly.
I am an America First person!!! I am damn proud of that!!!
So, people that celebrate Kwanza... are they Black Nationalist? Isn't that a celebration of their race and culture?
Because you commented on Steve's post above. Look above and you will see. That's WTH it's for you!! WTH did respond with that idiotic question as opposed to making a comment on my response?Mormad said:pineknollshoresking said:this is for Mormad and Civ...Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
All people should be proud of their heritage, whether good or bad. You may find things in your ancestry that you might disagree with; however, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be generally proud.
I am southerner and I am proud of my Southern Heritage. This includes the Confederate Flag. Oh, and BTW, one of my best friends growing up, in Cary, was a black person. He spent the night at my house regularly.
I am an America First person!!! I am damn proud of that!!!
So, people that celebrate Kwanza... are they Black Nationalist? Isn't that a celebration of their race and culture?
Um, wth is that for me? Lol
Where did you click on from your google search did get that definition? Webster's defines what nationalist as "one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation."Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
Ask Nicky Haley about that. Actually, ask the people of S.C. about that.Ground_Chuck said:Where did you click on from your google search did get that definition? Webster's defines what nationalist as "one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation."Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
White supremacist started using white nationalist because they thought the problem with white supremacy was branding. These people that will tell you the swastika is a symbol of spirituality.
Regarding white people celebrating ancestry and history, are you unfamiliar with St. Patrick's Day? Irish Americans celebrate it annually. German and Italian American's celebrate their history and culture through food, language and art all the time. This is how different "white" groups celebrate their heritage and history. These is the rules that "white" people celebrate by. And no one questions it. So I'm not really sure what you're talking when you say "whites" can't celebrate their history.
Most African American's can't celebrate the same way as "whites". Their history is different and often only goes back 100 years or so. Their story as a group is just different because they don't a story preAmerica to connect too. Their history is only the American story.
pineknollshoresking said:Because you commented on Steve's post above. Look above and you will see. That's WTH it's for you!! WTH did respond with that idiotic question as opposed to making a comment on my response?Mormad said:pineknollshoresking said:this is for Mormad and Civ...Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
All people should be proud of their heritage, whether good or bad. You may find things in your ancestry that you might disagree with; however, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be generally proud.
I am southerner and I am proud of my Southern Heritage. This includes the Confederate Flag. Oh, and BTW, one of my best friends growing up, in Cary, was a black person. He spent the night at my house regularly.
I am an America First person!!! I am damn proud of that!!!
So, people that celebrate Kwanza... are they Black Nationalist? Isn't that a celebration of their race and culture?
Um, wth is that for me? Lol
I believe that there are black Germans, Italians, Irish, English. Didn't know that St. Patrick's Day was strictly for white people. We are all dumber from having read that post. Pretty sure also that African American history goes back more than 100 years. Maybe you should delete that post and grab a history book. That my friend was very poor form. It is also sad that you don't value the contributions that African Americans made to this country prior to the 1920's. Not sure what to say about that. Here's a few links that maybe you would benefit from reading.Ground_Chuck said:Where did you click on from your google search did get that definition? Webster's defines what nationalist as "one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation."Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
White supremacist started using white nationalist because they thought the problem with white supremacy was branding. These people that will tell you the swastika is a symbol of spirituality.
Regarding white people celebrating ancestry and history, are you unfamiliar with St. Patrick's Day? Irish Americans celebrate it annually. German and Italian American's celebrate their history and culture through food, language and art all the time. This is how different "white" groups celebrate their heritage and history. These is the rules that "white" people celebrate by. And no one questions it. So I'm not really sure what you're talking when you say "whites" can't celebrate their history.
Most African American's can't celebrate the same way as "whites". Their history is different and often only goes back 100 years or so. Their story as a group is just different because they don't a story preAmerica to connect too. Their history is only the American story.
I'm not bull****ting you or anybody else. You referenced Steve's post. I directed the response to you and included Civ as he is typically an agitator on issues.Mormad said:pineknollshoresking said:Because you commented on Steve's post above. Look above and you will see. That's WTH it's for you!! WTH did respond with that idiotic question as opposed to making a comment on my response?Mormad said:pineknollshoresking said:this is for Mormad and Civ...Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
All people should be proud of their heritage, whether good or bad. You may find things in your ancestry that you might disagree with; however, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be generally proud.
I am southerner and I am proud of my Southern Heritage. This includes the Confederate Flag. Oh, and BTW, one of my best friends growing up, in Cary, was a black person. He spent the night at my house regularly.
I am an America First person!!! I am damn proud of that!!!
So, people that celebrate Kwanza... are they Black Nationalist? Isn't that a celebration of their race and culture?
Um, wth is that for me? Lol
My response to Steve did nothing more than suggest that i thought the responses to his question, given the history here, would be very entertaining. It did not in any way suggest my answer to his question. I also didn't suggest any agreement with Civ except that we both felt it baited responders. My question wasn't "idiotic" because you assumed my political answer to Steve's question would mirror Civ's (don't bullsht me and say you didn't) and you responded like i wouldn't agree with the response you gave and you needed to teach me something. Wrong assumption, but you know what assumptions do. You do know I'm a conservative, right? Or does not arguing with Civ make me liberal?
BBW12OG said:I believe that there are black Germans, Italians, Irish, English. Didn't know that St. Patrick's Day was strictly for white people. We are all dumber from having read that post. Pretty sure also that African American history goes back more than 100 years. Maybe you should delete that post and grab a history book. That my friend was very poor form. It is also sad that you don't value the contributions that African Americans made to this country prior to the 1920's. Not sure what to say about that. Here's a few links that maybe you would benefit from reading.Ground_Chuck said:Where did you click on from your google search did get that definition? Webster's defines what nationalist as "one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation."Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
White supremacist started using white nationalist because they thought the problem with white supremacy was branding. These people that will tell you the swastika is a symbol of spirituality.
Regarding white people celebrating ancestry and history, are you unfamiliar with St. Patrick's Day? Irish Americans celebrate it annually. German and Italian American's celebrate their history and culture through food, language and art all the time. This is how different "white" groups celebrate their heritage and history. These is the rules that "white" people celebrate by. And no one questions it. So I'm not really sure what you're talking when you say "whites" can't celebrate their history.
Most African American's can't celebrate the same way as "whites". Their history is different and often only goes back 100 years or so. Their story as a group is just different because they don't a story preAmerica to connect too. Their history is only the American story.
https://blog.genealogybank.com/10-notable-african-americans-in-17th-18th-century-history.html
https://www.blackpast.org/tag/18th-century/
https://www.history.com/news/black-heroes-american-revolution
I am sure these American heroes would disagree with you denigrating their contributions to America regardless of the way things were back then. Thinking that African American history only goes back 100 years is insulting any way you spin it.
Lets see- was it "pompous" or "arrogant"?pineknollshoresking said:Because you commented on Steve's post above. Look above and you will see. That's WTH it's for you!! WTH did respond with that idiotic question as opposed to making a comment on my response?Mormad said:pineknollshoresking said:this is for Mormad and Civ...Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
All people should be proud of their heritage, whether good or bad. You may find things in your ancestry that you might disagree with; however, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be generally proud.
I am southerner and I am proud of my Southern Heritage. This includes the Confederate Flag. Oh, and BTW, one of my best friends growing up, in Cary, was a black person. He spent the night at my house regularly.
I am an America First person!!! I am damn proud of that!!!
So, people that celebrate Kwanza... are they Black Nationalist? Isn't that a celebration of their race and culture?
Um, wth is that for me? Lol
Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
Thanks for endorsing his post. By you doing that it proves my point exactly. Do you think ALL white people can trace their genealogy back past 100 years? Are you that naive to think that all white people can trace their roots back to creation.Civilized said:BBW12OG said:I believe that there are black Germans, Italians, Irish, English. Didn't know that St. Patrick's Day was strictly for white people. We are all dumber from having read that post. Pretty sure also that African American history goes back more than 100 years. Maybe you should delete that post and grab a history book. That my friend was very poor form. It is also sad that you don't value the contributions that African Americans made to this country prior to the 1920's. Not sure what to say about that. Here's a few links that maybe you would benefit from reading.Ground_Chuck said:Where did you click on from your google search did get that definition? Webster's defines what nationalist as "one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation."Steve Williams said:Ground_Chuck said:White nationalism is a form of white supremacy that emphasizes defining a country by white racial identify. White supremacist/nationalist want to promote whites exclusively, normally at the expense of people of different grounds.Steve Williams said:
What exactly is white nationalism?
So I googled it and it said it was whites that want to Publicly show pride in their race and culture. However the connection has been made between people who feel this way and racism. So the question for me is, can you be proud of your ancestry and not be racist? Every other race is able to do so without question. Why do whites have to play by different rules?
White supremacist started using white nationalist because they thought the problem with white supremacy was branding. These people that will tell you the swastika is a symbol of spirituality.
Regarding white people celebrating ancestry and history, are you unfamiliar with St. Patrick's Day? Irish Americans celebrate it annually. German and Italian American's celebrate their history and culture through food, language and art all the time. This is how different "white" groups celebrate their heritage and history. These is the rules that "white" people celebrate by. And no one questions it. So I'm not really sure what you're talking when you say "whites" can't celebrate their history.
Most African American's can't celebrate the same way as "whites". Their history is different and often only goes back 100 years or so. Their story as a group is just different because they don't a story preAmerica to connect too. Their history is only the American story.
https://blog.genealogybank.com/10-notable-african-americans-in-17th-18th-century-history.html
https://www.blackpast.org/tag/18th-century/
https://www.history.com/news/black-heroes-american-revolution
I am sure these American heroes would disagree with you denigrating their contributions to America regardless of the way things were back then. Thinking that African American history only goes back 100 years is insulting any way you spin it.
Ground Chuck is talking about the genealogical challenge for so many African Americans of understanding their lineage when the Census only started recording their ancestors as people (distinct from their owners) in 1870.
Genealogists call it the "Brick Wall" phenomenon, and it's unique to African Americans in this country. One you get back to around 1870, you hit the wall.
Before 1870, you know how you have to research your genealogy if you hit that Brick Wall?
You have to find the pertinent tax records, where your ancestors are listed as property.
Stop with the faux judgment.