Democrats currently moving to allow infanticide (murder AFTER birth)

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GuerrillaPack
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As you may know, the communist party, aka Democrat party, in the state of NY recently passed a law allowing abortion right up until the moment of birth.

Now...here is the Democrat governor of Virginia discussing a bill currently moving forward in the state of Virginia, where he says that a baby can be delivered/born alive, then "resuscitated" if necessary and "kept comfortable" while the mother and doctor can discuss if they want to kill the child. This is what he literally says in this radio interview....



CNN article on the backlash against the Governor's comments here.

There is no debate on the issue of abortion. It is MURDER. Period. The unborn child is unquestionably: 1) a living organism, and 2) a "human being" (with the child becoming a human, per genetics/DNA, at the moment of conception). If you deny that an unborn child is a living human being, then you are a liar. This is basic biology. Same with the fact that there are, biologically, only two genders. Leftists are the ones who truly "deny science".

And here is the real reason that the communist Left defends abortion so passionately. Abortion is the shedding of innocent blood...which according to the law of God, puts a CURSE on our nation. The high-level elite which rule our society are Satanists. They need abortion to continue in order to perpetuate this curse upon our nation, and to remove the protection of God from our nation, allowing their Satanic agenda to further conquer the nation.
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GP, I think the shock and awe of the facts alone might induce more meaningful discussion if you dropped the color commentary additions you're so wont to make.
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Abortion is one of those "bellwether" issues, as it relates to either a person or a society at large. We have become so desensitized to wickedness. But just imagine being a doctor and delivering a baby right up to the moment of birth....but then inserting a knife into the womb and cutting off the limbs of the baby, and then inserting a vacuum tube and sucking out the body parts.

Or imagine implementing these new post-birth abortions being pushed by the Democrats. Imagine that you are a doctor and you deliver a new-born baby, then put the baby in a crib for 15-30 minutes...and then go have a conversation with the mother and decide to come back and kill the baby. And how is this being proposed to be done? Do you strangle the baby? Do you inject it with poison?

Ho hum right?

No. This is about as immensely evil as it gets. This is about as low as a society can go.

And now we have homosexual "marriage", transgender madness sweeping the country, and the normalization of pedophilia with 10-year old "drag queens" dancing in gay clubs and posing with naked men in gay magazines.

If you will tolerate, champion, and vote for people who support the ABOMINATION of the mass murder of millions of unborn children, then you will tolerate ANY form of wickedness. Either you are a sort of quasi-sentient being who is "sleep-walking" through life not really thinking about what is really going on here....or you are given over to wickedness and you knowingly support and love evil. Sadly, that is how I think many people are in this society. They consciously hate and reject God. They have become nihilists who hate themselves, and want to hurt others. They want to destroy society. And so they openly champion and support the literal destruction of morality, destruction of the nation (ie, having no border and a total invasion of foreigners), and the destruction of our fundamental rights (eg, 1st and 2nd Amendments).
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I haven't read your post yet, but I will say you're preaching to the choir on the abortion issue.
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GuerrillaPack said:

As you may know, the communist party, aka Democrat party, in the state of NY recently passed a law allowing abortion right up until the moment of birth.

Now...here is the Democrat governor of Virginia discussing a bill currently moving forward in the state of Virginia, where he says that a baby can be delivered/born alive, then "resuscitated" if necessary and "kept comfortable" while the mother and doctor can discuss if they want to kill the child. This is what he literally says in this radio interview....



CNN article on the backlash against the Governor's comments here.

There is no debate on the issue of abortion. It is MURDER. Period. The unborn child is unquestionably: 1) a living organism, and 2) a "human being" (with the child becoming a human, per genetics/DNA, at the moment of conception). If you deny that an unborn child is a living human being, then you are a liar. This is basic biology. Same with the fact that there are, biologically, only two genders. Leftists are the ones who truly "deny science".

And here is the real reason that the communist Left defends abortion so passionately. Abortion is the shedding of innocent blood...which according to the law of God, puts a CURSE on our nation. The high-level elite which rule our society are Satanists. They need abortion to continue in order to perpetuate this curse upon our nation, and to remove the protection of God from our nation, allowing their Satanic agenda to further conquer the nation.

Dude, I'm a democrat, a Christian of over 40 years and I'm not a communist. I'm pro life but I'm also pro choice. Abortion should be allowed in the most severe circumstances. Adoption should be the 1st thing discussed.

ETA: And nice try reporting me to James Henderson. Sucks for you that James contacted all the other moderators and they backed me up and said basically you were a nut case.




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PackFansXL said:

I haven't read your post yet, but I will say you're preaching to the choir on the abortion issue.
But yet it seems all most people can get mad about is some Leftist Lamestream media fantasy-land accusations about Trump being a "secret Russian agent". Or that Trump is "sexist" because one time he engaged in meaningless locker-room talk about the fact that women who are obsessed with rich and famous men will throw themselves at the men. Or that Trump is "racist" because he says we should actually have a nation by having real borders.

Orange man is bad because the communist propagandists on TV and in Hollywood told me so. But mass murdering millions of unborn babies? Wow, that's a "sacred right of women". What if Trump had personally murdered one million unborn babies? Would Leftists oppose it then?

And the people who support mass murdering around one million unborn children every year....the communist Lamestream media hacks and the Democrat Party...these are the "good guys" and our "moral authority" on all matters.

Most people are unthinking sheep, who just fall in line with whatever a perceived "authority" tells them to believe. And so they are brainwashed by Leftist media about how "evil" it is to oppose their Satanic baby-murdering, transgender, homosexual, globalist, open borders, communist agenda..
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PackFansXL
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GP, you post in a style that elicits an otherwise rational person such as Glass to post the nonsense he just did. As long as the debate is about Team D versus Team R nothing useful is accomplished. We would all be better served to eschew mainstream media and do our own research on issues. Civil discussion is our best avenue.
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PackFansXL said:

GP, you post in a style that elicits an otherwise rational person such as Glass to post the nonsense he just did. As long as the debate is about Team D versus Team R nothing useful is accomplished. We would all be better served to eschew mainstream media and do our own research on issues. Civil discussion is our best avenue.
I hate most Republicans, because most are not real conservatives and they betray their base on many issues. I'm one of those "conspiracy theorists" in the mold of Alex Jones who recognizes that the two-party system is a fraud, and that the Rs and Ds are both controlled by powerful elites -- with both parties working to implement a socialist, globalist, war-mongering, open borders agenda...ie, the "New World Order" conspiracy.

And I'm very disappointed in Trump because he is betraying his base by not delivering on many of his campaign promises...especially on illegal immigration, and not ending the wars in Syria and Afghanistan.

Most of what Trump is saying is good. He's just not delivering when it comes to the actions he is taking.

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Glasswolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

As you may know, the communist party, aka Democrat party, in the state of NY recently passed a law allowing abortion right up until the moment of birth.

Now...here is the Democrat governor of Virginia discussing a bill currently moving forward in the state of Virginia, where he says that a baby can be delivered/born alive, then "resuscitated" if necessary and "kept comfortable" while the mother and doctor can discuss if they want to kill the child. This is what he literally says in this radio interview....



CNN article on the backlash against the Governor's comments here.

There is no debate on the issue of abortion. It is MURDER. Period. The unborn child is unquestionably: 1) a living organism, and 2) a "human being" (with the child becoming a human, per genetics/DNA, at the moment of conception). If you deny that an unborn child is a living human being, then you are a liar. This is basic biology. Same with the fact that there are, biologically, only two genders. Leftists are the ones who truly "deny science".

And here is the real reason that the communist Left defends abortion so passionately. Abortion is the shedding of innocent blood...which according to the law of God, puts a CURSE on our nation. The high-level elite which rule our society are Satanists. They need abortion to continue in order to perpetuate this curse upon our nation, and to remove the protection of God from our nation, allowing their Satanic agenda to further conquer the nation.

Dude, I'm a democrat, a Christian of over 40 years and I'm not a communist. I'm pro life but I'm also pro choice. Abortion should be allowed in the most severe circumstances. Adoption should be the 1st thing discussed.

ETA: And nice try reporting me to James Henderson. Sucks for you that James contacted all the other moderators and they backed me up and said basically you were a nut case.







I didn't get contacted but whatever.
GuerrillaPack
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Glasswolf said:

TA: And nice try reporting me to James Henderson. Sucks for you that James contacted all the other moderators and they backed me up and said basically you were a nut case.


I didn't get contacted but whatever.


I simply asked James why glasswolf locks a bunch of my threads, when I am not breaking any rules whatsoever.

I think that communists/Leftists are "nut cases". But I certainly don't advocate that Leftists be censored. To the contrary, I want them to shoot their mouths off, like this Virginia governor, exposing themselves as the morally bankrupt scum that they are.

Is it glasswolf's position that he gets to censor conservatives and others simply because he strongly disagrees with their political or social views?
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GuerrillaPack said:


I'm one of those "conspiracy theorists" in the mold of Alex Jones who recognizes that the two-party system is a fraud, and that the Rs and Ds are both controlled by powerful elites -- with both parties working to implement a socialist, globalist, war-mongering, open borders agenda...ie, the "New World Order" conspiracy.
Great mold: "He's playing a character," Wilhite said of Jones. "He is a performance artist."

LINK

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GuerrillaPack said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Glasswolf said:

TA: And nice try reporting me to James Henderson. Sucks for you that James contacted all the other moderators and they backed me up and said basically you were a nut case.


I didn't get contacted but whatever.


I simply asked James why glasswolf locks a bunch of my threads, when I am not breaking any rules whatsoever.

I think that communists/Leftists are "nut cases". But I certainly don't advocate that Leftists be censored. To the contrary, I want them to shoot their mouths off, like this Virginia governor, exposing themselves as the morally bankrupt scum that they are.

Is it glasswolf's position that he gets to censor conservatives and others simply because he strongly disagrees with their political or social views?


Just so you know I've locked exactly one of your topics and the only thing I lock or delete on any sports boards are duplicates or post that are attacking poster of have offensive language. You need to find another moderator to blame
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I find it hard to believe that. You and Guerrilla are like fire and ice.
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We are in the age of incrementalism. First no abortions, then first trimester, then second, then third, then x time after birth. 5 min, 10 min, 1hr, day, month, year, 3 yrs, 5 yrs, 10, teenagers (hmm), 20 yr olds, 30, etc.

Very slippery slope.
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Bill. You are absolutely correct my friend. It is like the analogy of how do you cook a frog. If you throw him into a pot of boiling water, he will jump right out. But if you throw him into a pot of warm water, he will like it and stay in and you gradually turn up the heat until the water is boiling.

That is what happens in politics. They sell a warm pot of water then they gradually turn it up until it is too late to reverse.

Really sad. I personally think we need to make politicians comfortable until we do away with them.
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I personally hate our two party system. Those that think that Being a republican is a sign that you are a Christian is just as foolish as saying that being a democrat makes you non Christian. It is pure ignorance. One of the finest Christian gentleman that I have ever met anywhere is Jimmy Carter. What a great Christian gentleman.

I hate our two party system because it is making us on purpose be more and more polar in order to gain power. To me it is that simple. A person cannot believe is separate issues.

I believe in Gov Health care. I do not believe that proper medical attention should be a matter of how much money you have.

I believe in reasonable gun control. People should not be able to own military weapons. We do not need a Militia any longer. Wouldnt win a war against our government anyway.

I believe in legalized pot. No reason not to. If you want to make what is killing others illegal, then make alcohol and tobacco illegal.

I believe that we should have a strong border and proper immigration laws. Now if we want to get into a discussion of immigration law reforms to come up with fair laws, then I am all for that. But as long as the laws are the laws, they need to matter and those entering the country illigally are breaking the law.

But I also believe in free markets. Socialism does not work and never has. Takes away personal motivation.

I do not believe in Abortion. Unless t he fetus is not living.

I do not believe in spending our tax dollars for society funds. People are having trouble supporting their families for us to continue to support operations that have no life benefit other than societal ones. Personal contributions should pay for these.

I do not believe we should be the worlds police. Cannot afford it.

Now, that I have bored you with those things. I can tell you that neither party has a place for someone like me that wants to discuss each issue. Either you believe in their entire platform or you dont. A person with my beliefs has NO chance of serving in office. Even someone that disagreed with every position that i believe in has no chance of serving in office cause neither party would support someone that wants to deal with each issue on its own merit. This is sad to me.

Sorry that this is so long but this really bothers me. Scares me for my children that it is today impossible to elect an official with his own mind and conscience no matter what party they belong to . So sad we will never have a great president in this country or a great senator or house member.
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We do not have access to military weapons. I'm tired of hearing that we do.
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PackDaddy said:

We do not have access to military weapons. I'm tired of hearing that we do.


Correct, we don't. But we should.

The 2nd Amendment guarantees the right of every citizen to own and carry military-grade weapons. This is clear from the language of the 2nd Amendment. The problem is that most people misunderstand or have not been taught what it means.

The main problem is the phrase "well regulated". In 18th century parlance, the phrase "well regulated" essentially means "well-equipped" or "well-functioning". The phrase "well-regulated" is still used with this meaning today. The modern dictionary definition of "regulate" includes "to control something so that it operates or functions properly."

So...when it states that "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", this can be "translated" into modern vernacular as: "A well-equipped military, being necessary to the security and freedom of a nation, the right of the people to own and carry firearms shall not be infringed."

The phrase "well-regulated" does not mean that restrictions or limitations are placed upon the right of the people to own firearms, as people on the Left falsely assert. How could restricting firearm ownership serve the purpose of making the militia/army better protect the nation? That interpretation makes no sense whatsoever.

What the 2nd Amendment is essentially saying is that the citizens of the nation must be armed in order to serve as a collective "citizens' militia" or civilian army, which protects the nation from all enemies, whether from a foreign or domestic threat. And in order to protect ourselves against foreign armies, for example, we must have military grade weapons. And this is exactly what the Founding Fathers did. They were armed with military grade muskets and cannons, and overthrew the existing British government and army.
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Ok. So this doofus Beto O'Rourke has now officially endorsed killing babies who survive an abortion, in the video here:

https://www.lifenews.com/2019/03/20/watch-beto-orourke-refuses-to-support-law-to-stop-infanticide-care-for-babies-born-alive-after-abortions/

The reason he gives for allowing infanticide is "trust women to make their own decisions about their own bodies."

Excuse me you communist demon....a child that has been delivered and born is outside of the woman's body. And it is a separate human being whether it's inside or outside of the woman's body.

Wow, this is the first time I've heard this guy talk. Serious question. Is he "mentally challenged"? Or does he talk like that because he is trying to imitate Obama's speaking style?

By the way, his real name is Robert. He started using the nickname "Beto" in order to pander to hispanic voters. Another fun fact....he was arrested for burglary and DWI in the 1990s.



What more is there to say at this point. The communist/Democrat party now officially endorses murdering children after they are born. What abomination and evil will these people NOT endorse? Now you see why they are fanatically pushing the homosexual, transgender, open borders, censorship, and gun-grabbing agendas....and now openly coming out as communists. These people are given over to wickedness. They hate God. They hate humanity. They are nihilists who want to hurt people, and see the world burn.
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And think about the absurdity of the mass censorship of conservatives going on right now.

Leftists are frothing at the mouth to censor conservatives off of all social media sites. And why? Because they engage in "hate speech" by saying there are only two genders? Or they oppose school children being forced to listen to drag queens at school? Or they are "conspiracy theorists" like Alex Jones who dare to question whether the government or Establishment media is lying about important events.

Yet communist Leftists can go on the radio and television and openly argue for MURDERING CHILDREN AFTER THEY ARE BORN!

Hello??!

Conservatives are being censored by leftist demons (who run the Big Tech companies) because they dare to speak the truth and resist this evil agenda.

And the only way the Leftists can "win" an argument is to censor and silence their opposition.
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GuerrillaPack said:

And think about the absurdity of the mass censorship of conservatives going on right now.

Leftists are frothing at the mouth to censor conservatives off of all social media sites. And why? Because they engage in "hate speech" by saying there are only two genders? Or they oppose school children being forced to listen to drag queens at school? Or they are "conspiracy theorists" like Alex Jones who dare to question whether the government or Establishment media is lying about important events.

Yet communist Leftists can go on the radio and television and openly argue for MURDERING CHILDREN AFTER THEY ARE BORN!

Hello??!

Conservatives are being censored by leftist demons (who run the Big Tech companies) because they dare to speak the truth and resist this evil agenda.

And the only way the Leftists can "win" an argument is to censor and silence their opposition.


Do you lay awake at night fantasizing about Hannity and Rush while you listen to reruns of their shows?

You think the far right doesn't do the same thing in relation to censorship? You come on here every single post and bash bash bash the far left when the reality is, the far right and far left are the same. I may would be able to take you more seriously if you weren't so obviously biased but with your track record, I basically just skim over what you write because it is always the same mess just phrased in a different way.
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Do you lay awake at night fantasizing about Hannity and Rush while you listen to reruns of their shows?

You think the far right doesn't do the same thing in relation to censorship? You come on here every single post and bash bash bash the far left when the reality is, the far right and far left are the same. I may would be able to take you more seriously if you weren't so obviously biased but with your track record, I basically just skim over what you write because it is always the same mess just phrased in a different way.
I listen to Alex Jones. Not Hannity And Rush. But I certainly don't even agree with Alex on everything. And as I've said on this forum many times, I am opposed to the Repubican Establishment, because they are fake conservatives and controlled opposition.

And I actually believe in freedom of speech. I have nothing to fear from leftists/communists being allowed to say whatever they want. In fact, I want them to shoot their mouths off as much as possible. Because when they do, they expose themselves as the morally bankrupt scum that they are...such as O'Rourke and others now defending killing children after they are born.

Leftists are the ones pushing for censorship everywhere. Why? Because if conservatives, right-wingers, and "conspiracy theorists" are allowed to speak, then conservatives will win the argument. Why? Because conservatives have the truth/facts on their side, and the true moral high ground.

Every person on the earth has biases. Every one must choose a side. Yes, I'm biased in favor of God. I'm biased in favor of the truth. I'm against murdering children.

Was the Messiah biased? Yes, he was extremely biased, in favor of God/truth/justice. Is God biased? Is God extremely passionate about issues similar to murder of children?

No person on this earth is "unbiased", having no opinion on anything. That's impossible.
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GuerrillaPack said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:




Do you lay awake at night fantasizing about Hannity and Rush while you listen to reruns of their shows?

You think the far right doesn't do the same thing in relation to censorship? You come on here every single post and bash bash bash the far left when the reality is, the far right and far left are the same. I may would be able to take you more seriously if you weren't so obviously biased but with your track record, I basically just skim over what you write because it is always the same mess just phrased in a different way.
I listen to Alex Jones. Not Hannity And Rush. But I certainly don't even agree with Alex on everything.

And I actually believe in freedom of speech. I have nothing to fear from leftists/communists being allowed to say whatever they want. In fact, I want them to shoot their mouths off as much as possible. Because when they do, they expose themselves as the morally bankrupt scum that they are...such as O'Rourke and others now defending killing children after they are born.

Leftists are the ones pushing for censorship everywhere. Why? Because if conservatives, right-wingers, and "conspiracy theorists" are allowed to speak, then conservatives will win the argument. Why? Because conservatives have the truth/facts on their side, and the true moral high ground.

Every person on the earth has biases. Every one must choose a side. Yes, I'm biased in favor of God. I'm biased in favor of the truth. I'm against murdering children.

Was the Messiah biased? Yes, he was extremely biased, in favor of God/truth/justice. Is God biased?

No person on this earth is "unbiased", having no opinion on anything. That's impossible.


Ain't nobody said anything about a bias. The issue with you is you think your bias, opinion, whatever you wanna call it, is fact. It is not. You're just as much the problem as the "far left, etc. etc." that you ***** and loan about non stop on these boards. If the Lord does actually see it fit to open your eyes to how biased you are, maybe you will post something of note. Until then, you will continue to spout off about how terrible one side is because dammit, they just won't adhere to what you think is right. You are just as much the problem as the far left. It's you and the far right along with the far left that is exactly what is wrong with this country. What's so sad about it, is neither one of you give a damn enough to actually see it, admit it and do something to fix it. You both stay on your far left and right sides, preaching to everyone else about how damn perfect your ideas are and how terrible the other side's ideas are. In reality, both your ideas suck and would be better off kept quiet. Things would be a lot better without either of the lunatic Fringe sides.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:




Ain't nobody said anything about a bias. The issue with you is you think your bias, opinion, whatever you wanna call it, is fact. It is not. You're just as much the problem as the "far left, etc. etc." that you ***** and loan about non stop on these boards. If the Lord does actually see it fit to open your eyes to how biased you are, maybe you will post something of note. Until then, you will continue to spout off about how terrible one side is because dammit, they just won't adhere to what you think is right. You are just as much the problem as the far left. It's you and the far right along with the far left that is exactly what is wrong with this country. What's so sad about it, is neither one of you give a damn enough to actually see it, admit it and do something to fix it. You both stay on your far left and right sides, preaching to everyone else about how damn perfect your ideas are and how terrible the other side's ideas are. In reality, both your ideas suck and would be better off kept quiet. Things would be a lot better without either of the lunatic Fringe sides.
I'm not a blind supporter of Republicans. So you can't lump me with them.

I'm passionately "biased" in favor of God, truth, and justice. That is not some "vice" or a "problem". It's the SOLUTION to all the problems in the world.

EVERYONE has biases. The problem with the world is that many people are biased against God, truth, and justice -- eg, those on the communist Left.

So what exactly are you saying that I am "wrong" about? I'm not saying I'm perfect. But give me a concrete example of an issue. And I'll certainly consider your argument.

Let's talk about specifics, and not vague generalities. For example...killing unborn children, and killing children after they are born is 100% wrong. That is a black and white issue. There is no "gray" area, or "compromise" that is the correct position. One side is right and the other is wrong.



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GuerrillaPack said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:




Ain't nobody said anything about a bias. The issue with you is you think your bias, opinion, whatever you wanna call it, is fact. It is not. You're just as much the problem as the "far left, etc. etc." that you ***** and loan about non stop on these boards. If the Lord does actually see it fit to open your eyes to how biased you are, maybe you will post something of note. Until then, you will continue to spout off about how terrible one side is because dammit, they just won't adhere to what you think is right. You are just as much the problem as the far left. It's you and the far right along with the far left that is exactly what is wrong with this country. What's so sad about it, is neither one of you give a damn enough to actually see it, admit it and do something to fix it. You both stay on your far left and right sides, preaching to everyone else about how damn perfect your ideas are and how terrible the other side's ideas are. In reality, both your ideas suck and would be better off kept quiet. Things would be a lot better without either of the lunatic Fringe sides.
I'm not a blind supporter of Republicans. So you can't lump me with them.

I'm passionately "biased" in favor of God, truth, and justice. That is not some "vice" or a "problem". It's the SOLUTION to all the problems in the world.

EVERYONE has biases. The problem with the world is that many people are biased against God, truth, and justice -- eg, those on the communist Left.

So what exactly are you saying that I am "wrong" about? I'm not saying I'm perfect. But give me a concrete example of an issue. And I'll certainly consider your argument.

Let's talk about specifics, and not vague generalities. For example...killing unborn children, and killing children after they are born is 100% wrong. That is a black and white issue. There is no "gray" area, or "compromise" that is the correct position. One side is right and the other is wrong.






It is not a black and white issue and it is not 100% wrong. You say that because that's your opinion and in your weird world, everyone either has to agree with you and see it your way or they are a leftiest, whatever. I'm done entertaining you. It is pointless to even try because you are so one sided and ignorant about others having an opinion that my IQ level drops 40 points just having a conversation with you. My god man. Get over your self righteous opinions and realize that stereotyping people that don't agree with you is ignorant. As I stated before people like you are the problem because you think your high and mighty and everyone else is less of a person because they don't conform to your way of thinking. Go back to posting to yourself. You're truth not worth anymore of my time.
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Forget political parties and their nonsensical viewpoints. Rww26, what are your viewpoints on late-term abortions? We're talking about someone who is viable when the mother decides she doesn't want to be a parent to that child. Does it make sense to you that people choose to defend those kids and ask for laws to protect their rights?
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PackFansXL said:

Forget political parties and their nonsensical viewpoints. Rww26, what are your viewpoints on late-term abortions? We're talking about someone who is viable when the mother decides she doesn't want to be a parent to that child. Does it make sense to you that people choose to defend those kids and ask for laws to protect their rights?


I personally disagree with late term abortions but have always said and always will say, it is not my decision to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body. I would prefer having the child and finding a great adoption center over abortion but I will always feel it is not the government's place to tell anyone what they can and can't do with their own body. Just like it is the the government's place to force me to buy healthcare or have solar energy panels for my house.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

GuerrillaPack said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:




Ain't nobody said anything about a bias. The issue with you is you think your bias, opinion, whatever you wanna call it, is fact. It is not. You're just as much the problem as the "far left, etc. etc." that you ***** and loan about non stop on these boards. If the Lord does actually see it fit to open your eyes to how biased you are, maybe you will post something of note. Until then, you will continue to spout off about how terrible one side is because dammit, they just won't adhere to what you think is right. You are just as much the problem as the far left. It's you and the far right along with the far left that is exactly what is wrong with this country. What's so sad about it, is neither one of you give a damn enough to actually see it, admit it and do something to fix it. You both stay on your far left and right sides, preaching to everyone else about how damn perfect your ideas are and how terrible the other side's ideas are. In reality, both your ideas suck and would be better off kept quiet. Things would be a lot better without either of the lunatic Fringe sides.
I'm not a blind supporter of Republicans. So you can't lump me with them.

I'm passionately "biased" in favor of God, truth, and justice. That is not some "vice" or a "problem". It's the SOLUTION to all the problems in the world.

EVERYONE has biases. The problem with the world is that many people are biased against God, truth, and justice -- eg, those on the communist Left.

So what exactly are you saying that I am "wrong" about? I'm not saying I'm perfect. But give me a concrete example of an issue. And I'll certainly consider your argument.

Let's talk about specifics, and not vague generalities. For example...killing unborn children, and killing children after they are born is 100% wrong. That is a black and white issue. There is no "gray" area, or "compromise" that is the correct position. One side is right and the other is wrong.






It is not a black and white issue and it is not 100% wrong. You say that because that's your opinion and in your weird world, everyone either has to agree with you and see it your way or they are a leftiest, whatever. I'm done entertaining you. It is pointless to even try because you are so one sided and ignorant about others having an opinion that my IQ level drops 40 points just having a conversation with you. My god man. Get over your self righteous opinions and realize that stereotyping people that don't agree with you is ignorant. As I stated before people like you are the problem because you think your high and mighty and everyone else is less of a person because they don't conform to your way of thinking. Go back to posting to yourself. You're truth not worth anymore of my time.
You are "guilty" of what you are claiming I am doing. You have this self-righteous attitude and are strongly condemning me as being "wrong" here.

We are all allowed to have strong opinions, and to believe that we are right and others are wrong. Everyone is guilty of that.

I certainly don't believe I'm perfect, or that I'm right about everything. To the contrary, I have been wrong about many things in the past, and have changed my mind on many important issues.

I'd be interested to know when you think it is "right" to kill a child that has been born alive. You seem to indicate you believe in God. When does God allow us to kill a child a few minutes/hours after it has been born? How could that ever be a "good" thing?

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RunsWithWolves26 said:

PackFansXL said:

Forget political parties and their nonsensical viewpoints. Rww26, what are your viewpoints on late-term abortions? We're talking about someone who is viable when the mother decides she doesn't want to be a parent to that child. Does it make sense to you that people choose to defend those kids and ask for laws to protect their rights?


I personally disagree with late term abortions but have always said and always will say, it is not my decision to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body. I would prefer having the child and finding a great adoption center over abortion but I will always feel it is not the government's place to tell anyone what they can and can't do with their own body. Just like it is the the government's place to force me to buy healthcare or have solar energy panels for my house.
The unborn child is not a "part" of the woman's body, even though it is inside her body until birth. The unborn child is a completely separate human being -- as confirmed by DNA/genetics. It has a completely separate DNA/genetics from the mother. And it is alive. It is a living human being. To deliberately kill that living human being is murder. Period. End of story.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

PackFansXL said:

Forget political parties and their nonsensical viewpoints. Rww26, what are your viewpoints on late-term abortions? We're talking about someone who is viable when the mother decides she doesn't want to be a parent to that child. Does it make sense to you that people choose to defend those kids and ask for laws to protect their rights?


I personally disagree with late term abortions but have always said and always will say, it is not my decision to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body. I would prefer having the child and finding a great adoption center over abortion but I will always feel it is not the government's place to tell anyone what they can and can't do with their own body. Just like it is the the government's place to force me to buy healthcare or have solar energy panels for my house.
If not the government, then who protects the rights of the child? If we rely on the personal situation of the mother, who likely has financial or social pressures to kill the child, are we left to buy the passive stand and allow someone to kill the child because it is inconvenient? We rely on the government to force companies to do things not in their best interest for the greater good of our nation. Do you think the government might have a reasonable right to force people to momentarily reduce their personal comfort and allow others the right to live? When we say we are against abortion but do nothing to protect the people who can't fight back on their own, we are passively allowing others to invoke their selfish interests.
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PackFansXL said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

PackFansXL said:

Forget political parties and their nonsensical viewpoints. Rww26, what are your viewpoints on late-term abortions? We're talking about someone who is viable when the mother decides she doesn't want to be a parent to that child. Does it make sense to you that people choose to defend those kids and ask for laws to protect their rights?


I personally disagree with late term abortions but have always said and always will say, it is not my decision to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body. I would prefer having the child and finding a great adoption center over abortion but I will always feel it is not the government's place to tell anyone what they can and can't do with their own body. Just like it is the the government's place to force me to buy healthcare or have solar energy panels for my house.
If not the government, then who protects the rights of the child? If we rely on the personal situation of the mother, who likely has financial or social pressures to kill the child, are we left to buy the passive stand and allow someone to kill the child because it is inconvenient? We rely on the government to force companies to do things not in their best interest for the greater good of our nation. Do you think the government might have a reasonable right to force people to momentarily reduce their personal comfort and allow others the right to live? When we say we are against abortion but do nothing to protect the people who can't fight back on their own, we are passively allowing others to invoke their selfish interests.


I have no interest in this. As I stated. I feel the government should **** off period. The same people who want the government to enforce this or that because they support it are the same ones who yell from the mountain tops when they try to take control of something they don't agree with. It's a back and forth. I'm not saying people can't have their opinions but the constant you agree with me or you're a lunitic fringe, hardcore leftiest is just ignorant. It's why the issues are what they are now because of the hard right and hard left. To each their own.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

PackFansXL said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

PackFansXL said:

Forget political parties and their nonsensical viewpoints. Rww26, what are your viewpoints on late-term abortions? We're talking about someone who is viable when the mother decides she doesn't want to be a parent to that child. Does it make sense to you that people choose to defend those kids and ask for laws to protect their rights?


I personally disagree with late term abortions but have always said and always will say, it is not my decision to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body. I would prefer having the child and finding a great adoption center over abortion but I will always feel it is not the government's place to tell anyone what they can and can't do with their own body. Just like it is the the government's place to force me to buy healthcare or have solar energy panels for my house.
If not the government, then who protects the rights of the child? If we rely on the personal situation of the mother, who likely has financial or social pressures to kill the child, are we left to buy the passive stand and allow someone to kill the child because it is inconvenient? We rely on the government to force companies to do things not in their best interest for the greater good of our nation. Do you think the government might have a reasonable right to force people to momentarily reduce their personal comfort and allow others the right to live? When we say we are against abortion but do nothing to protect the people who can't fight back on their own, we are passively allowing others to invoke their selfish interests.


I have no interest in this. As I stated. I feel the government should **** off period. The same people who want the government to enforce this or that because they support it are the same ones who yell from the mountain tops when they try to take control of something they don't agree with. It's a back and forth. I'm not saying people can't have their opinions but the constant you agree with me or you're a lunitic fringe, hardcore leftiest is just ignorant. It's why the issues are what they are now because of the hard right and hard left. To each their own.


To support the murder of unborn children, and now children after they are born...IS lunacy. It is pure evil.

What is making our society/country such a toxic environment is that wickedness (such as abortion and the homosexual and transgender agendas) has taken such prominence in society. Not because conservatives are arguing the issues and fighting back. It is the communist-Leftist policies and agenda that are destroying America.

These are black and white issues. There is no virtue in the middle ground and compromise. Allowing a "moderate" amount of abortion, transgender madness, and infringement of constitutional rights is not the right way to go about it.
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GuerrillaPack said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

PackFansXL said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

PackFansXL said:

Forget political parties and their nonsensical viewpoints. Rww26, what are your viewpoints on late-term abortions? We're talking about someone who is viable when the mother decides she doesn't want to be a parent to that child. Does it make sense to you that people choose to defend those kids and ask for laws to protect their rights?


I personally disagree with late term abortions but have always said and always will say, it is not my decision to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body. I would prefer having the child and finding a great adoption center over abortion but I will always feel it is not the government's place to tell anyone what they can and can't do with their own body. Just like it is the the government's place to force me to buy healthcare or have solar energy panels for my house.
If not the government, then who protects the rights of the child? If we rely on the personal situation of the mother, who likely has financial or social pressures to kill the child, are we left to buy the passive stand and allow someone to kill the child because it is inconvenient? We rely on the government to force companies to do things not in their best interest for the greater good of our nation. Do you think the government might have a reasonable right to force people to momentarily reduce their personal comfort and allow others the right to live? When we say we are against abortion but do nothing to protect the people who can't fight back on their own, we are passively allowing others to invoke their selfish interests.


I have no interest in this. As I stated. I feel the government should **** off period. The same people who want the government to enforce this or that because they support it are the same ones who yell from the mountain tops when they try to take control of something they don't agree with. It's a back and forth. I'm not saying people can't have their opinions but the constant you agree with me or you're a lunitic fringe, hardcore leftiest is just ignorant. It's why the issues are what they are now because of the hard right and hard left. To each their own.


To support the murder of unborn children, and now children after they are born...IS lunacy. It is pure evil.

What is making our society/country such a toxic environment is that wickedness (such as abortion and the homosexual and transgender agendas) has taken such prominence in society. Not because conservatives are arguing the issues and fighting back. It is the communist-Leftist policies and agenda that are destroying America.

These are black and white issues. There is no virtue in the middle ground and compromise. Allowing a "moderate" amount of abortion, transgender madness, and infringement of constitutional rights is not the right way to go about it.


And if someone is homosexual or wants to have an abortion or a sex change it is there right as well. Maybe you're not crazy. Maybe you're just a judgmental, bigot, who thinks he is high and mighty over anyone else. Being a homosexual, having an abortion or having a sex change don't infringe on anyone's constitutional rights.

And speaking of rights. Should homosexuals not have the right to marry? Love who they wish to? Seeing as Republicans try to block that, am I allowed to call them the lunatic, radical right for taking away someone's right to marry who they want to?
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