#Pack9 vs unc-ch May 14-16 (H-S) 7pm, 7pm. 2pm. ACC Network

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Heath was fantastic last night.
I am not sure how we landed where we have with this bullpen.


It's a combination of things. Losing two guys who you were planning on accounting for 45% of your innings pitched each weekend really hurts.

Playing from behind hurts. When you're already thin you can't throw Nance in a game you're losing 6-4.

Manuel, Kitchings, Black, Heintz. All of these guys have showed potential but just haven't been good.

Then this staff relied way too much on Dudan and Mahron in the weak non conference. No reason they should have been throwing 110 pitches against Princeton. Should have taken that time to develop some younger guys.


Even with Dudan and Marohn this pen is a mess. Too many guys who are misses because of lack of command.

Getting to use 2 of Consiglio/Hemric/Andrews as bullpen arms in addition to Nance & Garino is as good top end as many ACC teams.

Plus, you likely get to use Nance 2x a weekend more often vs. one extended outing if he's following Marohn on Fridays first out.

Then you get the emergence of a young guy like Ragusa and you have as good of a weekend rotation and bullpen as you can ask for.

Look at UNC as the shining example - Decaro is good (Marohn is better IMO). We will probably see Lynch tonight and Dudan blows him away. Then they have Boaz next who is no good at all. Behind that they have two guys in Glauber (Nance > slightly IMO) & McDuffie (Better than Garino for sure, but better than Cig?) who throw 2-3 times a weekend and Matthijs who is just solid, but doesn't blow you away and doesn't pitch very often. They've won 21 conference games and are 2nd in the country with 5 guys throwing 84% of their innings.



When fully healthy I think the two pitching staffs are pretty even.

The difference is the offense. Your staff has given you a chance in just about every series even with the injuries.

The GT series is the perfect example. How many teams have the horses to hold them to 9 runs in the first two games at their place. Yet you lose both games 3-1 and 6-4.
UNC wins the first two games against GT because their offense was able to score 5 runs in the first game and 14 in the second.


They are bringing dudes out of the pen that are amongst the highest rated guys in NC coming out of HS. We have 1 dude out of the pen and that wouldn't have changed regardless of injury.
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Nance was 4th in NC
Harris 21st NC
Manuel 16th NC

McDuffie was 17th in NC. Glauber was 4th in SC.

Truitt had a fall 2024 injury so has been slower to get going.
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ICW Wolf said:

PGAWolf said:

Alex Gee said:

ICW Wolf said:

PGAWolf said:

ICW Wolf said:

Heath was fantastic last night.
I am not sure how we landed where we have with this bullpen.


It's a combination of things. Losing two guys who you were planning on accounting for 45% of your innings pitched each weekend really hurts.

Playing from behind hurts. When you're already thin you can't throw Nance in a game you're losing 6-4.

Manuel, Kitchings, Black, Heintz. All of these guys have showed potential but just haven't been good.

Then this staff relied way too much on Dudan and Mahron in the weak non conference. No reason they should have been throwing 110 pitches against Princeton. Should have taken that time to develop some younger guys.


Even with Dudan and Marohn this pen is a mess. Too many guys who are misses because of lack of command.

Getting to use 2 of Consiglio/Hemric/Andrews as bullpen arms in addition to Nance & Garino is as good top end as many ACC teams.

Plus, you likely get to use Nance 2x a weekend more often vs. one extended outing if he's following Marohn on Fridays first out.

Then you get the emergence of a young guy like Ragusa and you have as good of a weekend rotation and bullpen as you can ask for.

Look at UNC as the shining example - Decaro is good (Marohn is better IMO). We will probably see Lynch tonight and Dudan blows him away. Then they have Boaz next who is no good at all. Behind that they have two guys in Glauber (Nance > slightly IMO) & McDuffie (Better than Garino for sure, but better than Cig?) who throw 2-3 times a weekend and Matthijs who is just solid, but doesn't blow you away and doesn't pitch very often. They've won 21 conference games and are 2nd in the country with 5 guys throwing 84% of their innings.



When fully healthy I think the two pitching staffs are pretty even.

The difference is the offense. Your staff has given you a chance in just about every series even with the injuries.

The GT series is the perfect example. How many teams have the horses to hold them to 9 runs in the first two games at their place. Yet you lose both games 3-1 and 6-4.
UNC wins the first two games against GT because their offense was able to score 5 runs in the first game and 14 in the second.


They are bringing dudes out of the pen that are amongst the highest rated guys in NC coming out of HS. We have 1 dude out of the pen and that wouldn't have changed regardless of injury.


I guess I just don't look at yesterday and think the bullpen was the problem. It was the offense and defense.
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Alex Gee said:

McHugh sailing it to the outfield is going to hurt later.

That one did hurt, but him not scooping the the throw from Luke on the double play hurt worse. As a former first baseman he should have had that. His problem was that he stretched before he knew where the ball was going and consequently could not get close enough to scoop it properly. Had he put his left leg to the ball(He had it way left of the throw) and stretched and caught the ball as it short hop(close to the ball) then he would have caught it. In my younger days I make that play easily.
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Each team made 2 mistakes defensively. UNC took advantage of State's mistakes but State didn't take advantage of UNC's.
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Some reading material before game two: https://insidepacksports.com/s/18625/wolfpack-backtrack-patrick-bailey
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Giglio has mentioned multiple times that Avent's contract expires after this season and there has been no news around extending it- has James or anyone else covered this?
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NC State's batting order versus No. 2 North Carolina:

LF Rett Johnson
2B Luke Nixon
DH Chris McHugh
CF Ty Head
3B Sherman Johnson
1B Dalton Bargo
RF Andrew Wiggins
SS Christian Serrano
C Drew Lanphere

LHP Cooper Consiglio (3-3, 5.34 ERA) on the mound for the Wolfpack


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Wish we could put him in bargo's jersey and sneak him into the lineup as dh…
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DanielWilsonIPS
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Well, the 0-0 tie didn't last long...
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First pitch and pack is down 1-0
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Wolfer79 said:

NC State's batting order versus No. 2 North Carolina:

LF Rett Johnson
2B Luke Nixon
DH Chris McHugh
CF Ty Head
3B Sherman Johnson
1B Dalton Bargo
RF Andrew Wiggins
SS Christian Serrano
C Drew Lanphere

LHP Cooper Consiglio (3-3, 5.34 ERA) on the mound for the Wolfpack





Really wish they would get mchugh out of the 3-hole. Maybe shift Ty up a spot, move sherm to cleanup, then I would move Christian all the way up to 5, and have mchugh 6.

Edit to add- pop up sac bunt effort continues our run of losing plays the last few games…
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Would really like to have let Nixon swing.
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ChemE94 said:

Wolfer79 said:

NC State's batting order versus No. 2 North Carolina:

LF Rett Johnson
2B Luke Nixon
DH Chris McHugh
CF Ty Head
3B Sherman Johnson
1B Dalton Bargo
RF Andrew Wiggins
SS Christian Serrano
C Drew Lanphere

LHP Cooper Consiglio (3-3, 5.34 ERA) on the mound for the Wolfpack





Really wish they would get mchugh out of the 3-hole. Maybe shift Ty up a spot, move sherm to cleanup, then I would move Christian all the way up to 5, and have mchugh 6.

Edit to add- pop up sac bunt effort continues our run of losing plays the last few games…

State got one back... and on an impressive diving effort by Lanphere
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ChemE94
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This effing inning should be over. The missed check swing should have been the first out instead of a walk. Hope it doesn't cost us.

Edit- oh well.
SportManagementEngineer
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Backup SS can't make a routine play. Ugh.
Twitter: @JJwith2Jays
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I'm ready for this season to be over. Been brutal due to both bad luck and self inflicted reasons.
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I mean. ****
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All the criticisms people have had about Andrews feel like they could apply to Cooper also.. He hasn't been helped out this inning, but he isn't missing bats either.
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ChemE94
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This team is a damn unexpected wet fart when your expecting a dry one - you're surprised in a bad way and disappointed… smdh
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SportManagementEngineer said:

Backup SS can't make a routine play. Ugh.

I can't watch anymore. Gosh I know we are struggling with pitching injuries, but we have to make routine plays to have a chance and we cannot do that. Yes Serrano should still be in high school, but that was a room service play and he did not make it.

I also did not like Nixon's bunt. That is 3 weekends in a row he has a popped a bunt up. It's not winning baseball.
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He had what should have been a k for the first out and an error on a weak ground ball for what would have been the third out. He hasn't had his best stuff - but was doing enough and certainly shouldn't be down 6 either.
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We are cooked.
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1-1 with the bases loaded no outs would feel a little different. Have to make plays.
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Got em where we want em
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Glauber is tossing for UNC. They know tonight is the game as well
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Alex Gee said:

1-1 with the bases loaded no outs would feel a little different. Have to make plays.


Yep - losing plays in the field and they made us pay with the heart of their lineup. That's been missing most of the season for us from the heart of our lineup.

Edit - popup from mchugh and k from ty.
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Mchugh being 3rd in the lineup for as long as he has is just terrible lineup management. At this point it's not a slump amy more. Dude is just bad at the plate this season.
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What are we doing!!!!
McHugh with a 2-0 count, dude is struggling and he swings at ball 3 for a weak pop up. Why not give him the take there??? So stupid!!!
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If we had a dollar for every runner we've left in scoring position this season, we could buy a really good baseball team.
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This is a losing team. No baseball IQ. Enjoy being at home for the playoffs boys!!
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It's actually unreal how many times McHugh has come up in a big spot and wet the bed.
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PGAWolf said:

It's actually unreal how many times McHugh has come up in a big spot and wet the bed.


I have less issue with him and more issue with him still hitting in that spot.
 
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