RaleighRed13 said:
Can we mathematically still win the regular season conference title or is that out of reach?
DanielWilsonIPS said:RaleighRed13 said:
Can we mathematically still win the regular season conference title or is that out of reach?
Best case scenario will involve help from Carolina
RaleighRed13 said:
Can we mathematically still win the regular season conference title or is that out of reach?
Alex Gee said:Wbtaylor said:BigLefty24 said:Wbtaylor said:BigLefty24 said:
Both coaches know that if this game isnt played, both teams are almost assured of the top 4 bye in the ACC Tournament. There's really no benefit to either team to play this game.
I would think State needs this game to help their hosting chances.
States already hosting unless they manage to lose the series next weekend.
I feel like it's 50/50 at best right now. Whatever evidence is there that we are a lock to host right now with a 2-1 Series win next week?
RPI in the high teens, low 20s. Likely top 2 ACC finish with series wins against teams in a similar host/no host spot. 7 ACC series wins and 1 split including two likely hosts with one being a sweep.
It's damn near a lock. Not considering any additional damage done in Durham.
DJncsu13 said:Alex Gee said:Wbtaylor said:BigLefty24 said:Wbtaylor said:BigLefty24 said:
Both coaches know that if this game isnt played, both teams are almost assured of the top 4 bye in the ACC Tournament. There's really no benefit to either team to play this game.
I would think State needs this game to help their hosting chances.
States already hosting unless they manage to lose the series next weekend.
I feel like it's 50/50 at best right now. Whatever evidence is there that we are a lock to host right now with a 2-1 Series win next week?
RPI in the high teens, low 20s. Likely top 2 ACC finish with series wins against teams in a similar host/no host spot. 7 ACC series wins and 1 split including two likely hosts with one being a sweep.
It's damn near a lock. Not considering any additional damage done in Durham.
I'm encouraged by your confidence. My concern is our current RPI which is around 25. I'm assuming the top 11 RPI teams are locks. UNC is 11. That leaves 5 spots for a group that includes us, Tenn, Oregon, Clemson, GT, Ole Miss, Dallas Baptist, Louisville, WVU and FL. A series win this weekend would've been a really nice feather in the cap. We better not screw around next weekend with Stanford.
matracey said:
Here's your scenarios for ACC regular season title:
Sweep Stanford, FSU 2/3 vs UNC
Or
2/3 vs Stanford, UNC 2/3 at FSU, GT no better than 2/3 at Duke
I think as long as State wins 2/3 vs Stanford we're a host even if we don't win the regular season title
Alex Gee said:matracey said:
Here's your scenarios for ACC regular season title:
Sweep Stanford, FSU 2/3 vs UNC
Or
2/3 vs Stanford, UNC 2/3 at FSU, GT no better than 2/3 at Duke
I think as long as State wins 2/3 vs Stanford we're a host even if we don't win the regular season title
Also looks really good for guaranteeing a top 4. Meaning just playing a weekend series for the title.
The 1 & 4 seeds have biggest advantage from a scheduling perspective, imo, which is something else to keep an eye on.
Yeah exactly it won't be close to that disparity.Kmcpack said:
Stanford's rpi is a lot higher than ecu though. I thinks it's 50's vs 80's. To me a 2 out of 3 keeps our rpi close to the same.
Stanford is 54. Their RPI will not be affected by losing games at State.Mandras said:
ECU RPI was 74 on April 22nd. Stanford is only ~15 spots higher and it's 3 home games, so with each game you win, the punishment for losing 1 will increase.
I think the punishment for losing will be at least -40 rpi points.
West Coast obviously has different rules but Arizona hosted at 32 last year.Mandras said:
All good. I last saw them at 56. The main point I was trying to make in my original -40 or -45 points comment is that 1 loss kills the chances of hosting via the conventional RPI pathway.
No power conference team will host with an rpi near 28-30...
(which is where I differ from most who are saying our rpi will stay around 25 with 2 of 3 this weekend -- certainly possible since everyone else plays games, and hope we don't have to find out).
We'd have to hope the committee values finishing 2nd in the 2nd best league very very highly.
Mandras said:
Ya, definitely unique out there. They also did win the PAC.
I do think we'll host if we win the acc, but we won't if we just win 2 of 3 to get to 7-2-1 acc series record and 18 wins (2nd place).
Mandras said:
Not according to our resident d1 expert, Kendall Rogers
