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Elliott Avent: 'A gutty performance by a gutty team'

June 25, 2021
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Despite having just 13 players available due to COVID issues, NC State baseball fought to the final pitch against Vanderbilt in a 3-1 loss Friday. 

Elliott Avent spoke to the media following the loss, here’s a full breakdown of everything he had to say: 


Opening statement

Hard-fought game. Hard-fought game against one of the great pitchers in college baseball. And I think he's one of the finalists for the Golden Spike Award, a great honor, well-deserved on his part.

And I thought our guys fought it with everything they had. We just -- when you're going against a guy like Kumar Rocker you can't leave 12 men on base. I know it's hard to get that hit because of his stuff and how good and competitive he is, followed up by some pretty good arms behind him. But wish we could have found a way to scratch a hit there and maybe we got a different outcome.

Can you just walk me through your day today when you found out that your roster, or your lineup was going to be different. And of course no moral victories, but what did you think of the way that your team played with the limited number of guys you had?

Well, I'll talk about the way we played which was my opening statement. Just a great gutty performance by a gutty team. That's who we've been all year. Some guys stepped up today and played in roles they haven't been asked to play in. Just really proud of that.

I don't want to discuss anything that happened today because quite frankly I have no understanding of what happened today. I'd rather not discuss any of that.

Could you give us your thoughts and impressions there on Garrett Payne getting the start today? Obviously he came here not thinking he was going to pitch today. And what did you think of his performance?

Yeah, he gets told probably at about 1:00 or maybe later, maybe it's like 1:30 that he's got the ball at 2:07 to throw against the defending national champs. You couldn't be more proud of him and his effort. But he's done that a few times this year. This is not the first time he's done that. The first time he's done that on this stage. First time we've been at this stage this year.

But if we've done things the right way and you can lock into the game itself, which obviously he was able to do -- and Feeney as well, then this stage doesn't seem too different than the past places we've been on our ascent to get here.And I’m just proud of what he did. I knew he was very tired at the end, but he actually gave us one more inning that we asked him to give there to make this thing work.

What was your message to the team when you learned that you were only going to have 13 guys available before this game?

Well, one, there's a lot of confusion. They didn't know what was going on. I didn't know what was going on so I couldn't really tell them. But when I found out we had the option to play with 13 guys or forfeit, then obviously when you have guys that are committed to your program, as our guys are, all year, I don't think you do things from the top. I think it's always a decision made by the people that have done the work. It's always the people on the ground that get the work done. And sometimes at the top you have to make a decision. But this wasn't one of those circumstances.

And I just told the team what we were dealing with. Two options are forfeit or play with 13 guys. And my vote was to play. Let me know what you want to do. Took about probably six seconds. That's who they are. We found a way to make it work.

Like I said, if you get a knock here or there, we might be talking about playing for the national championship starting on Monday. Now we've got to come back tomorrow and beat a really good Vanderbilt team. And we've got to go back and regroup here and see what's going to happen.

You said that you couldn't talk about the events of today. But coming into today, did you require your guys or encourage your guys to get vaccinated? Did you have a policy on that?

I didn't say I couldn't talk about it. I said I wouldn't talk about it. But, yeah, we talk about a lot of things, you know what I'm saying? But I've been coaching for a long time. And I think I'm the -- you can call it caretaker, baby-sitter or the guy that the parents drop their young men off and leave them in my care. And they've raised them to be the quality people that we recruit.

And my job is to teach them baseball, make sure they get an education and keep them on the right track forward. But I don't try to indoctrinate my kids with my values or my opinions. Obviously we talk about a lot of things. But these are young men that can make their own decisions and that's what they did.

Do you know which players certainly won't play tomorrow? Like J.T. Jarrett, we heard he was sent home. Do you know he's not going to play?

I have no idea what's going on, zero. You know as much as I know. It just hasn't been communicated. I know this is an odd situation, and I know people have to deal with things, but we spent all day yesterday -- Rob Murphy, Scott Ensell and myself -- spent all day yesterday dealing with a lot of things.

And then today we got up and dealt with some other things. Anyway, I'm sure I'll get the information at some point. And when I get the information that the NCAA deems appropriate, then we'll go from there.

You had said that you didn't want to indoctrinate your players into your philosophy. Did you get vaccinated yourself?

I'll tell you what, I'm not going to talk about that. If you want to talk baseball, we can talk baseball. If you want to talk politics or stuff like that, you can go talk to my head of sports medicine, Rob Murphy.

You only used two guys today; you only had four. Do you have any idea who might be available to pitch tomorrow? 

Once again, it's about who is going to be on the roster, who is allowed to play. That I haven't been told yet. Hopefully I'll get that information soon and we'll go from there. Hopefully we'll have a lot of guys to pitch. Hopefully we'll have Reid Johnston Sam Highfill, and a lot of guys to pitch. So we'll see.

You said it was unclear about what was going on, the build-up to this game. Is there any clarity into what things could happen to make your players eligible tomorrow? Have they given you any insight into what needs to be done?

I had some kind of conversation with my athletic director, who talked to maybe the head of championships or something, and we discussed some things. And since the game has been over, Rob Murphy has told me something that he thinks is going to happen. But I'm still not really sure. I went and spoke to my team and I came straight in here.

Could you kind of walk us through what this morning was like, leading up to the game and how you found out about the test or whatever -- how you found out about the COVID protocol?

Kept getting not much said. It was just like they delayed -- first they kept us out of our locker room. And some of the players had to go into a holding room. And then they delayed infield/outfield. And nobody knew what was really going on.

Then finally I got told these were our options. That's what we chose to do. That's when we played the game.

Were you told you had a positive? Were you told why you were being delayed?

Once again, you're talking about stuff that's personal information. And probably protected by whatever, HIPAA. That's something I don't want to discuss. If you want to discuss that, you can discuss that with my administration.

We all know Highfill came in as a two-way guy. How much work has he gotten as a hitter this year? And what can you say about a guy coming in and getting three hits in his first three at-bats of the year?

First of all, he's gotten zero work as a hitter. We went to him and we found out we were going to play and see if he wanted to go up to the cage and take a couple swings. He was excited.

He's just a baseball player. Baseball players do things in baseball games. And Sam Highfill is a baseball player. And if we would have taken the lead there he was going to close the game. If this game would have got extended going to extras, then he would have been at third base. He's just a baseball player. And he's smart.

I think his dad -- his granddad was one of the Phillies' top prospects; I learned that from the great legendary coach, Wayne Graham a few days ago, who played with Sam's grandfather. And you'll hear from Sam in a few minutes. And I appreciate the question.

The freshman, you mentioned Payne, your thoughts on DeAngelo Giles and all those guys that played?

You're talking about -- this is, when you get here, even though we have nine guys that have played for three months, this is a tremendous stage and a tremendous city that -- Omaha is to college baseball what Augusta is to the Masters.

And this city, much like Augusta, just wraps their arms around all the teams that come in. And it brings in great money to the city. It brings in great exposure. The city has fun with it. Everybody we've met is awesome.

This is a grand, grand stage. For our guys to come here and play on this stage is a challenge. But these guys who haven't played all year and find out 30, 40 minutes prior to game time, hey, D, you're going to third today. And, Sam, you're going to first.

But anyway it's what you love about this game. It's one of the many things we love about this team. And it was just a lot of fun for me today watching these guys compete.

Elliott Avent: 'A gutty performance by a gutty team'

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Bell Tower Grey
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Andrew doesn't seem to understand the "I can't talk about" or "I won't talk about" answer.

Avent isn't going to say what many of us feel. When it's all over, I hope Avent comes out blasting any and all those that need their day of reckoning, potential fines be damned.
AlleyPack
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Proud of coach and the effort from the players.
Raw deal today.
82TxPackFan
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That had to be a tough press conference for coach. Maybe he should have worn a sign saying I will not talk about COVID in this conference & just pointed to it every time the question was repeated.
DrummerboyWolf
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Elliott did a good job shutting down a few stupid reporters. One idiot asked if he(Elliott) were vaccinated after he had already been shot down about the players. Elliott told him to pound sand as it should be. It's nobody's business if you have or have not been vaccinated.
Being an N. C. State fan builds great character!
Wolfpacklife
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We keep talking about the heart of the players today (rightfully so) but man... you have to give coach a lot of credit. He could have easily gotten mad at a lot of what happened today but he kept himself together for the team. Proud of every single one of them
Packamylase
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I'm just surprised to hear that he has no idea whats going on... Crazy.
Wolfpacklife
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Packamylase said:

I'm just surprised to hear that he has no idea whats going on... Crazy.


Same. Unreal to think.
Ellesdad
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I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.
sf59
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Its water under the bridge and Avent does not want to talk about it, but I really hope everything that happened today is detailed in some sort of timeline. Because it smells like gamesmanship and exploitation of rules.
“Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes.”
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wilmwolf
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Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



I agree, I was vaccinated at the first opportunity, but I disagree with the sentiment. I'm disappointed in Andrew for publishing that tweet. The guys that sat out today don't have covid, haven't tested positive, and only couldn't play because the test results weren't available in time.
Just a guy on the sunshine squad.
WPNfamily
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wilmwolf80 said:

Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



I agree, I was vaccinated at the first opportunity, but I disagree with the sentiment. I'm disappointed in Andrew for publishing that tweet. The guys that sat out today don't have covid, haven't tested positive, and only couldn't play because the test results weren't available in time.


Agreed here. Andrew really is on the wrong hill here. That's disappointing.
Wolfpacklife
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Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



100% agree.
packgrad
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Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



Andrew is woke. Terrible tweet.
Bell Tower Grey
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WPNfamily said:

wilmwolf80 said:

Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



I agree, I was vaccinated at the first opportunity, but I disagree with the sentiment. I'm disappointed in Andrew for publishing that tweet. The guys that sat out today don't have covid, haven't tested positive, and only couldn't play because the test results weren't available in time.


Agreed here. Andrew really is on the wrong hill here. That's disappointing.
I'm not vaccinated. Nor is my wife. Personal choices, as is those choosing to take the shot. However, for Andrew to publicly place the blame on the loss today on the players choosing not to take the shot is completely out of line.

The fact that he writes for a publication that covers State baseball is, as noted already, utterly disappointing. He should seriously consider resigning from that job once he gets back home. He doesn't deserve to be there.
WPNfamily
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Bell Tower Grey said:

WPNfamily said:

wilmwolf80 said:

Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



I agree, I was vaccinated at the first opportunity, but I disagree with the sentiment. I'm disappointed in Andrew for publishing that tweet. The guys that sat out today don't have covid, haven't tested positive, and only couldn't play because the test results weren't available in time.


Agreed here. Andrew really is on the wrong hill here. That's disappointing.
I'm not vaccinated. Nor is my wife. Personal choices, as is those choosing to take the shot. However, for Andrew to publicly place the blame on the loss today on the players choosing not to take the shot is completely out of line.

The fact that he writes for a publication that covers State baseball is, as noted already, utterly disappointing. He should seriously consider resigning from that job once he gets back home. He doesn't deserve to be there.


Can't get on bored with resigning for one crappy tweet. I disagree with him but we shouldn't be canceling him over it.
Andrew4343
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There should be no more discussion on this site or any other about Avent being fired ever again. Dude is at the biggest stage in a fantastic career and he has a mic drop press conference after a heart wrenching game and before preparing to lead us to a national championship. We should/might get some players back and will continue our dominance.
The vax questions are stupid. I am vaxxed, felt like an easy decision but that's only for myself and my family. Let go pack! We are on the cusp of a national championship. If you can't get on board then shut the **** up and watch quietly, let's go!
wilmwolf
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WPNfamily said:

Bell Tower Grey said:

WPNfamily said:

wilmwolf80 said:

Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



I agree, I was vaccinated at the first opportunity, but I disagree with the sentiment. I'm disappointed in Andrew for publishing that tweet. The guys that sat out today don't have covid, haven't tested positive, and only couldn't play because the test results weren't available in time.


Agreed here. Andrew really is on the wrong hill here. That's disappointing.
I'm not vaccinated. Nor is my wife. Personal choices, as is those choosing to take the shot. However, for Andrew to publicly place the blame on the loss today on the players choosing not to take the shot is completely out of line.

The fact that he writes for a publication that covers State baseball is, as noted already, utterly disappointing. He should seriously consider resigning from that job once he gets back home. He doesn't deserve to be there.


Can't get on bored with resigning for one crappy tweet. I disagree with him but we shouldn't be canceling him over it.


Agree. Andrew does good work, I don't want him gone. The flaw in his tweet is that it assumes every other player in Omaha has been vaccinated, which we simply do not know. The real blame here falls on protocols that keep players from playing despite negative tests.
Just a guy on the sunshine squad.
packgrad
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WPNfamily said:

Bell Tower Grey said:

WPNfamily said:

wilmwolf80 said:

Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



I agree, I was vaccinated at the first opportunity, but I disagree with the sentiment. I'm disappointed in Andrew for publishing that tweet. The guys that sat out today don't have covid, haven't tested positive, and only couldn't play because the test results weren't available in time.


Agreed here. Andrew really is on the wrong hill here. That's disappointing.
I'm not vaccinated. Nor is my wife. Personal choices, as is those choosing to take the shot. However, for Andrew to publicly place the blame on the loss today on the players choosing not to take the shot is completely out of line.

The fact that he writes for a publication that covers State baseball is, as noted already, utterly disappointing. He should seriously consider resigning from that job once he gets back home. He doesn't deserve to be there.


Can't get on bored with resigning for one crappy tweet. I disagree with him but we shouldn't be canceling him over it.


Why not? He wants the players to take responsibility for their actions? Why not expect the same from him?
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wilmwolf80 said:

WPNfamily said:

Bell Tower Grey said:

WPNfamily said:

wilmwolf80 said:

Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



I agree, I was vaccinated at the first opportunity, but I disagree with the sentiment. I'm disappointed in Andrew for publishing that tweet. The guys that sat out today don't have covid, haven't tested positive, and only couldn't play because the test results weren't available in time.


Agreed here. Andrew really is on the wrong hill here. That's disappointing.
I'm not vaccinated. Nor is my wife. Personal choices, as is those choosing to take the shot. However, for Andrew to publicly place the blame on the loss today on the players choosing not to take the shot is completely out of line.

The fact that he writes for a publication that covers State baseball is, as noted already, utterly disappointing. He should seriously consider resigning from that job once he gets back home. He doesn't deserve to be there.


Can't get on bored with resigning for one crappy tweet. I disagree with him but we shouldn't be canceling him over it.


Agree. Andrew does good work, I don't want him gone. The flaw in his tweet is that it assumes every other player in Omaha has been vaccinated, which we simply do not know. The real blame here falls on protocols that keep players from playing despite negative tests.
With all due respect, the flaw is that it's none of Andrew's business whether or not anybody has been vaccinated. The rest of what you said is spot on though.
Being an N. C. State fan builds great character!
Daviewolf83
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I will just say I am not a fan of Andrew's tweet. I understand the sentiment, but some things do not need to be said. I am very disappointed in what he said and how he said it.

On a positive note, I could not be prouder of the guys who played today. They battled and did the best they could under very trying conditions. On the biggest stage in college baseball, they played their hearts out and they played for their teammates and their coaches. I will chose to focus on the positive message they sent and ignore people like Andrew and others who want to be negative. People like him are not worth my time and attention.
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packgrad said:

WPNfamily said:

Bell Tower Grey said:

WPNfamily said:

wilmwolf80 said:

Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



I agree, I was vaccinated at the first opportunity, but I disagree with the sentiment. I'm disappointed in Andrew for publishing that tweet. The guys that sat out today don't have covid, haven't tested positive, and only couldn't play because the test results weren't available in time.


Agreed here. Andrew really is on the wrong hill here. That's disappointing.
I'm not vaccinated. Nor is my wife. Personal choices, as is those choosing to take the shot. However, for Andrew to publicly place the blame on the loss today on the players choosing not to take the shot is completely out of line.

The fact that he writes for a publication that covers State baseball is, as noted already, utterly disappointing. He should seriously consider resigning from that job once he gets back home. He doesn't deserve to be there.


Can't get on bored with resigning for one crappy tweet. I disagree with him but we shouldn't be canceling him over it.


Why not? He wants the players to take responsibility for their actions? Why not expect the same from him?


Sorry, I will give him the grace to have his own opinion even when I disagree. More people should try it.
packgrad
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WPNfamily said:

packgrad said:

WPNfamily said:

Bell Tower Grey said:

WPNfamily said:

wilmwolf80 said:

Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



I agree, I was vaccinated at the first opportunity, but I disagree with the sentiment. I'm disappointed in Andrew for publishing that tweet. The guys that sat out today don't have covid, haven't tested positive, and only couldn't play because the test results weren't available in time.


Agreed here. Andrew really is on the wrong hill here. That's disappointing.
I'm not vaccinated. Nor is my wife. Personal choices, as is those choosing to take the shot. However, for Andrew to publicly place the blame on the loss today on the players choosing not to take the shot is completely out of line.

The fact that he writes for a publication that covers State baseball is, as noted already, utterly disappointing. He should seriously consider resigning from that job once he gets back home. He doesn't deserve to be there.


Can't get on bored with resigning for one crappy tweet. I disagree with him but we shouldn't be canceling him over it.


Why not? He wants the players to take responsibility for their actions? Why not expect the same from him?


Sorry, I will give him the grace to have his own opinion even when I disagree. More people should try it.


I'm not saying he should be. Just wonder why he should be given grace when he has none to give in that tweet.
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WPNfamily said:

wilmwolf80 said:

Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



I agree, I was vaccinated at the first opportunity, but I disagree with the sentiment. I'm disappointed in Andrew for publishing that tweet. The guys that sat out today don't have covid, haven't tested positive, and only couldn't play because the test results weren't available in time.


Agreed here. Andrew really is on the wrong hill here. That's disappointing.


100%. I'm vaccinated but this is a horrible take. Horrible. Not only horrible to the players but a terrible look for NC State. By one of our own no less.

People that want it have it. People that don't, don't. What are we doing here?
WPNfamily
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packgrad said:

WPNfamily said:

packgrad said:

WPNfamily said:

Bell Tower Grey said:

WPNfamily said:

wilmwolf80 said:

Ellesdad said:



I'm vaccinated, but I do not understand this line of thinking.



I agree, I was vaccinated at the first opportunity, but I disagree with the sentiment. I'm disappointed in Andrew for publishing that tweet. The guys that sat out today don't have covid, haven't tested positive, and only couldn't play because the test results weren't available in time.


Agreed here. Andrew really is on the wrong hill here. That's disappointing.
I'm not vaccinated. Nor is my wife. Personal choices, as is those choosing to take the shot. However, for Andrew to publicly place the blame on the loss today on the players choosing not to take the shot is completely out of line.

The fact that he writes for a publication that covers State baseball is, as noted already, utterly disappointing. He should seriously consider resigning from that job once he gets back home. He doesn't deserve to be there.


Can't get on bored with resigning for one crappy tweet. I disagree with him but we shouldn't be canceling him over it.


Why not? He wants the players to take responsibility for their actions? Why not expect the same from him?


Sorry, I will give him the grace to have his own opinion even when I disagree. More people should try it.


I'm not saying he should be. Just wonder why he should be given grace when he has none to give in that tweet.


Point taken and I follow your thought. I just don't fall into the gotta receive grace to give grace camp over an opinion stated in a tweet.

I wholeheartedly think it was a terrible take and one at some point he may even wish he could walk back.
Kmcpack
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Forcing a 20 year old to take a vaccine that is still under an emergency use authorization is crazy. Blaming them for not getting a vaccine is crazy. Being 70 or 60 or 50 or even 30 or 40 is much different than 20 risk wise. There is already evidence of health impacts from taking this vaccine that although they may be small could very well be a greater risk to 20 year olds than covid itself. That is "science" not anti vax or whatever woke nonsense you might have read. Many doctors and the WHO itself have recommended not vaccinating kids under 18 so for a 19-22 year old to decide not to take the vaccine isn't outlandish and there shouldn't be any blamed sent their way. Especially if some of them have already had covid and have antibodies. This is coming from someone who got vaccinated as soon as I could. But I'm in my 40's not 20 and I'm at a much higher risk of a more serious covid case (although still small compared to 65+)
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