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A STUDENT'S PERSPECTIVE: Don't Push The Panic Button Just Yet

September 5, 2017
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NC State’s season opening loss to South Carolina brought about familiar feelings of heartbreak and disappointment for NC State fans: missed opportunities, turnovers, special teams woes, and questionable calls plagued the Wolfpack, especially late in the game.  

Given the Pack’s shortcomings over the past few years, it’s tempting to take a negative attitude when projecting the rest of State’s season. State plays in one of the toughest divisions in the country, and they haven’t shown the ability during Dave Doeren’s tenure to win close games.  However, State’s opening loss doesn’t doom the rest of their season, and nobody should write off the Pack’s 2017 campaign as a lost cause just yet.


One of the main reasons that this loss was particularly frustrating for Pack fans was the fact that NC State beat South Carolina in nearly every statistical category:

29

First Downs

12

9-20


Third Down Conversions

5-12

2-4

Fourth Down Conversions

0-0

99

Total Offensive Plays

50

89

Rushing Yards

31

415

Passing Yards

215

36:54

Time of Possession

23:06

2

Turnovers

1

8-65

Penalties

6-45


Obviously, statistics don’t win games.   They don’t particularly do a good job of providing comfort after a disheartening loss either, but it’s obvious when examining the statline that State largely outplayed South Carolina. 

The offense was more than effective, as the Pack was able to generate over 500 total yards.   Nyheim Hines averaged over five yards a carry (81 yards on 15 carries) and Ryan Finley set an NC State record for the most completions in a single game. A more balanced offensive attack will probably be needed going forward, but it was encouraging to see Finley pick apart South Carolina’s defense with relative ease while the Pack’s young corp of wide receivers flashed their incredible potential. Sophomore Kelvin Harmon had ten catches for 114 yards, continuing his stellar play from the 2016 campaign. 

The offense accomplished all this while missing two experienced veterans up front, for the most part, in Terrone Prescod and Will Richardson.  Prescod was in and out of the lineup with a shoulder injury and Richardson was suspended for two games due to a violation of team rules.  Freshmen Joe Sculthorpe and Justin Witt were thrust into the rotation and had their struggles. 

Returning Prescod and Richardson to the starting lineup will only improve an offense that had an incredible start to the season.
   
The defense struggled at times to provide adequate pressure up front, but they were a few missed tackles away from recording three or four more sacks and eliminating several big plays. 

They held South Carolina to only 31 yards on the ground, forcing the Gamecocks to rely for the most part on Jake Bentley’s arm.  Bentley, a young quarterback with star potential, could only amass 215 yards through the air, and State did so without the services of senior corner Mike Stevens, who is slated to return in the next few weeks.  

Starting in his place, cornerback Jonathan Alston matched up against one of the best wide receivers State will play all season in Deebo Samuel and battled all game.  He had an interception and a pick and will continue to see snaps even when Stevens returns.

As well as they played offensively and defensively, State clearly lost the special teams battle.  The Pack gave up the opening kickoff for a touchdown that provided South Carolina with a huge boost in momentum while spotting USC seven points.  Kicker Carson Wise missed a chip shot late in the second quarter, and it could remain to be seen whether or not State’s place kicking woes from last year have followed them into the beginning of the 2017 season. 

Despite all of this, State was just ten yards away from scoring a last second touchdown and forcing overtime. 

I am not imploring anybody to ignore this loss or the pain that comes with it, but the bottom line is this: the Wolfpack still have a wealth of talent on both sides of the ball at each position.

NC State did not play Saturday at full strength, and they have yet to play a conference game.  If the Pack can make the necessary adjustments and return their full complement of starting players, they still have the potential to make some noise in the ACC this year.

There’s no need to press the panic button just yet.

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A STUDENT'S PERSPECTIVE: Don't Push The Panic Button Just Yet

10,340 Views | 16 Replies | Last: 7 yr ago by Wolfp@ck88
1985 NCSU Grad
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I did not push it...I am in reality.

The panic button was pushed after the 1st season and my fears were correct. We NEED a coaching change. Different players, same problems....
Wolfp@ck88
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Yep, over the last 3 years or so I have held off of pushing that button. Not now. Sometimes you have to call things what they are--and cut bait.
Redwolf
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Over 500 yards of offense a chance to go into overtime.
Turnovers and a clear missed holding call on the first kick off killed us and I just don't see how that's DDs fault.
Coming out flat to start the third, is where the coaches can do a better job getting the kids focused.
i don't thing that's enough to call for his head. Four years ago we were in shambles. You can't expect change without adversity.
We have two games to tune up... I like our chances. We need to stay health..
If we don't, would that be the coaches fault too I wonder..
PackCPA
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That button was pushed a long time ago, friend. Dude's in over his head and the only ones still hanging on are either those hellbent on being right about Doeren succeeding or those who just go along with everything.
Redwolf
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PackCPA said:

That button was pushed a long time ago, friend. Dude's in over his head and the only ones still hanging on are either those hellbent on being right about Doeren succeeding or those who just go along with everything.
So we are either fanatics or marshmallows ...be careful what you pigeon hole friend.
Wolfp@ck88
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Over 500 yards of offense a chance to go into overtime. (True- but where is the W?) How many CHANCES have we had. Keep relying on chances that aren't capitalized on and that is what we continue to see. Chances.

Turnovers and a clear missed holding call on the first kick off killed us and I just don't see how that's DDs fault. (HIS team, many winning coaches overcome this)
Coming out flat to start the third, is where the coaches can do a better job getting the kids focused.(How about the whole first half? Or historically coming out flat almost every game?)
i don't thing that's enough to call for his head. Four years ago we were in shambles. You can't expect change without adversity. (He is leading us to where we were 4 years ago---it's quite obvious)

We have two games to tune up... I like our chances. We need to stay health.. (then what is the excuse if we lose?) We aren't healthy? How about next year....Oh wait: We are a young team? Then it will be back to, we don't have depth.... (Do you see a trend here?)

If we don't, would that be the coaches fault too I wonder..(Correct. Doeren's team, his responsibility) Man has great character, but great game day coach, he is not.
Denverpacker
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No disrespect to the author, but I am pretty sure I do not need or want a student to tell me how to manage my feelings with regards to Pack sports.
Colonel Armstrong
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I don't care anymore about stats or moral victories. DD needs to get wins period end of story. This is a make it or break it year, and after one game he hasn't stepped up yet.

I am optimistic we will still have a good season though.
metrocard1006
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Denverpacker said:

No disrespect to the author, but I am pretty sure I do not need or want a student to tell me how to manage my feelings with regards to Pack sports.
AMEN!!!!
Engineer97
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Redwolf said:

PackCPA said:

That button was pushed a long time ago, friend. Dude's in over his head and the only ones still hanging on are either those hellbent on being right about Doeren succeeding or those who just go along with everything.
So we are either fanatics or marshmallows ...be careful what you pigeon hole friend.
The whole walking and quacking duck thing.
Denverpacker
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Wow. Take of your red blinders for just a sec. Change without adversity. Two games to tune up. This is year 5 with a senior laden team. A team that still looks woefully unprepared to face a P5 team. A team that cannot execute some basics. Hell, we missed yet another 29 yard chip shot that could have been the game winner.

I applauds you carrying Doerens water, but at some point reality has to check in.

Now I hope he goes 9-3 and I come back to eat my crow. I am not buying the Scotts sauce just yet.
Denverpacker
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Denverpacker said:

Wow. Take of your red blinders for just a sec. Change without adversity. Two games to tune up. This is year 5 with a senior laden team. A team that still looks woefully unprepared to face a P5 team. A team that cannot execute some basics. Hell, we missed yet another 29 yard chip shot that could have been the game winner.

I applauds you carrying Doerens water, but at some point reality has to check in.

Now I hope he goes 9-3 and I come back to eat my crow. I am not buying the Scotts sauce just yet.
BlackHole91
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There are just as many that are set on looking for him to fail and want to be right about that. I think there are people who are seriously wanting the Pack to do poorly just so they can get rid of someone that they made up their minds they do not like. I hope he's here for several more years, which would mean that we actually won some games. Winning some games is what everyone wants here... right?
PackCPA
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Redwolf said:

PackCPA said:

That button was pushed a long time ago, friend. Dude's in over his head and the only ones still hanging on are either those hellbent on being right about Doeren succeeding or those who just go along with everything.
So we are either fanatics or marshmallows ...be careful what you pigeon hole friend.
I'm not trying to pigeon hole anyone. I'm calling it like I see it; the only ones not sounding the alarm are those who don't want to admit they were wrong about Doeren or are casual, take-it-as-it-comes fans. There's nothing wrong with being one of those two groups. I'm just not buying the fact that someone who takes State football seriously and who isn't tied down to a prediction/bias is comfortable with the state of the program this far into Doeren's tenure.
RolandStone
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My panic button is broken due to hitting it so many times the last 40 years.
Wolfp@ck88
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State FANS want wins. Do you think it's all fine and dandy to get a few wins a year...?because that is what you are going to get with Doeren. It's business. It's not about having good morals. If you want that, then you need to go follow the Cub Scouts (which are great!).

Point is, people are tired of the same stuff. Some people know understand that the body of work they have seen has run it's course---and are ready to at least try for another coach. What is the worst that can happen....? I can assure you a new coach would at least get like results. The dude has almost the same amount of losses as wins!!!!!!!!!!!! Does that help you? Few signature wins.....cut bait now! Why delay the inevitable. Paul Finebaum was right...and NCSU is just paving the way for his case.....(Same ole show year in and year out---!) News flash, everyone else in the US has no clue who we are...and those who do think we stink.
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