2024 Elections

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In reply to GuerrillaPack • 2:18p, 7/8/24
GuerrillaPack said:
hokiewolf said:
Civilized said:
LOL

That MTG post reads like a 3-Year Letterman tweet but sadly for America, it's not.
ranks up there with Hank Johnson who fears Guam will tip over and capsize.
Not even CLOSE to that level, and you know that. MTG made a relatively minor error regarding which Founding Fathers signed a document. Hank Johnson's comment is ten thousand times worse...astronomical levels of stupidity. Pretty close to the common delusion among Leftists that there are now 70 genders and that men can become women, and that we are all "evolved monkeys on a rock flying through space that exploded from a big bang". Now THAT is next level idiocy.


Minor, but she needs to know who signed it, after all she is in Congress. I'm going to assume that an uneducated intern thought that they were being smart.
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 2:33p, 7/8/24
Democrats: "Do as I say, not as I do!" The actions of this party the last six months are coming to the surface for many more people to actually see and realize that the Democratic Party is by far much more of a threat to democracy! I hope their totalitarian acts are now being exposed for open minded people that still think for themselves to recognize this threat!
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In reply to ncsupack1 • 2:52p, 7/8/24
ncsupack1 said:
GuerrillaPack said:
hokiewolf said:
Civilized said:
LOL

That MTG post reads like a 3-Year Letterman tweet but sadly for America, it's not.
ranks up there with Hank Johnson who fears Guam will tip over and capsize.
Not even CLOSE to that level, and you know that. MTG made a relatively minor error regarding which Founding Fathers signed a document. Hank Johnson's comment is ten thousand times worse...astronomical levels of stupidity. Pretty close to the common delusion among Leftists that there are now 70 genders and that men can become women, and that we are all "evolved monkeys on a rock flying through space that exploded from a big bang". Now THAT is next level idiocy.


Minor, but she needs to know who signed it, after all she is in Congress. I'm going to assume that an uneducated intern thought that they were being smart.
At least MTG actually supports the Constitution and Bill of Rights!!

The communist Left and Democrats are sworn enemies of the Bill of Rights and Constitution, wanting to destroy our 2nd Amendment gun rights, working with Big Tech and others to censor conservatives, etc. They piss on those things, calling them "outdated documents written by racist old white men".

Talk about pearl-clutching and focusing on an EXTREMELY MINOR issue. Are Democrats seriously wanting us to believe that they "care so much about the Founding Fathers and Constitution"? This is why they are criticizing MTG?? Lmao. This is a joke.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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In reply to GuerrillaPack • 3:42p, 7/8/24
GuerrillaPack said:
ncsupack1 said:
GuerrillaPack said:
hokiewolf said:
Civilized said:
LOL

That MTG post reads like a 3-Year Letterman tweet but sadly for America, it's not.
ranks up there with Hank Johnson who fears Guam will tip over and capsize.
Not even CLOSE to that level, and you know that. MTG made a relatively minor error regarding which Founding Fathers signed a document. Hank Johnson's comment is ten thousand times worse...astronomical levels of stupidity. Pretty close to the common delusion among Leftists that there are now 70 genders and that men can become women, and that we are all "evolved monkeys on a rock flying through space that exploded from a big bang". Now THAT is next level idiocy.


Minor, but she needs to know who signed it, after all she is in Congress. I'm going to assume that an uneducated intern thought that they were being smart.
At least MTG actually supports the Constitution and Bill of Rights!!

The communist Left and Democrats are sworn enemies of the Bill of Rights and Constitution, wanting to destroy our 2nd Amendment gun rights, working with Big Tech and others to censor conservatives, etc. They piss on those things, calling them "outdated documents written by racist old white men".

Talk about pearl-clutching and focusing on an EXTREMELY MINOR issue. Are Democrats seriously wanting us to believe that they "care so much about the Founding Fathers and Constitution"? This is why they are criticizing MTG?? Lmao. This is a joke.


I said it was minor but that doesn't make her above any criticism. Wow.
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3:44p, 7/8/24
https://instagr.am/p/C9LC0YMRCEh

Quote:
"This bill is a threat to democracy."


The communists have re-defined "democracy" to mean "a system of government by the Marxist-Leftist party of a nation, through rigged elections".

Therefore, anything that "threatens" their rigged system of sham "elections" or even allows the people to influence the government (eg, freedom of speech) is a "threat to democracy".
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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In reply to ncsupack1 • 3:46p, 7/8/24
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I said it was minor but that doesn't make her above any criticism. Wow.
When did I ever say that she was above criticism? Talk about a strawman argument.

I'm simply pointing out that the Left is making a mountain of a molehill, as well as the fact the Left care nothing about the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, or Founding Fathers.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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In reply to GuerrillaPack • 3:49p, 7/8/24
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ncsupack1 said:



I said it was minor but that doesn't make her above any criticism. Wow.
When did I ever say that she was above criticism? Talk about a strawman argument.

I'm simply pointing out that the Left is making a mountain of a molehill, as well as the fact the Left care nothing about the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, or Founding Fathers.
I didn't say you did.
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6:07p, 7/8/24
They've known.

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7:25p, 7/8/24
#Sieve, is this your guy? Thank you in advance for your willingness to answer. Of course, #Nappy is no where to be found, LOL.

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7:29p, 7/8/24
#Sieve, she broke ranks......almost like a whistleblower. Blasphemy almost, don't you think?

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https://instagr.am/p/C9K9F47xCm0
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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In reply to GuerrillaPack • 9:59p, 7/8/24
The left is really turning on Biden.
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10:14p, 7/8/24
Michael Moore: Those pushing Biden to stay in race committing 'elder abuse

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4759830-michael-moore-biden-debate-performance-trump-elder-abuse/

Michael Moore is blasting President Biden's allies, accusing them of "elder abuse" for "pushing" the commander in chief to stay in the race against former President Trump.

"Imagine that was your father up there. … Why isn't anybody doing anything? Why did they do it? Why did they even let him go out on the stage in this condition? Who was looking out for him? Who's looking out for him right now?" Moore exclaimed.

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In reply to wolfbreath • 10:20p, 7/8/24
Haven't most sane people been saying that for a while. Now that they know they are losing to Trump they are going all in on getting him removed. Biden is about to get the trump treatment if he doesn't back down.
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In reply to BigBarryWood • 2:22a, 7/9/24
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Haven't most sane people been saying that for a while. Now that they know they are losing to Trump they are going all in on getting him removed. Biden is about to get the trump treatment if he doesn't back down.

Biden has been losing to Trump for a year.

What changed was after that disastrous debate, many Dems (accurately) think Biden's already-marginal chances of winning took an unrecoverable hit.
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11:24a, 7/9/24

This must be a "deep fake" too!!!!


https://instagr.am/p/C8xchfpPZID

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In reply to Civilized • 8:52p, 7/9/24
Civilized said:
BigBarryWood said:
Haven't most sane people been saying that for a while. Now that they know they are losing to Trump they are going all in on getting him removed. Biden is about to get the trump treatment if he doesn't back down.

Biden has been losing to Trump for a year.

What changed was after that disastrous debate, many Dems (accurately) think Biden's already-marginal chances of winning took an unrecoverable hit.
Which is why he needs to be replaced with somebody else, no way would the nation believe this guy was honestly re-elected.
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In reply to Civilized • 10:43p, 7/9/24
Civilized said:
BigBarryWood said:
Haven't most sane people been saying that for a while. Now that they know they are losing to Trump they are going all in on getting him removed. Biden is about to get the trump treatment if he doesn't back down.

Biden has been losing to Trump for a year.

What changed was after that disastrous debate, many Dems (accurately) think Biden's already-marginal chances of winning took an unrecoverable hit.

To be fair, Dems are a notorious circular firing squad who are always convinced that they're losing if they aren't 10% ahead, and this race is that on steroids. Also worth noting that even after the debate and the New York Times running 10 front page stories a day calling for Biden to be pushed out he's currently only 2% behind Trump (according to 538, a fairly unbiased poll aggregator).

I guess we're about to find out how unrecoverable it was.

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5:20a, 7/10/24
The way this country is divided, it's going to be close no matter what.
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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 6:16a, 7/10/24
SmaptyWolf said:
Civilized said:
BigBarryWood said:
Haven't most sane people been saying that for a while. Now that they know they are losing to Trump they are going all in on getting him removed. Biden is about to get the trump treatment if he doesn't back down.

Biden has been losing to Trump for a year.

What changed was after that disastrous debate, many Dems (accurately) think Biden's already-marginal chances of winning took an unrecoverable hit.

To be fair, Dems are a notorious circular firing squad who are always convinced that they're losing if they aren't 10% ahead, and this race is that on steroids. Also worth noting that even after the debate and the New York Times running 10 front page stories a day calling for Biden to be pushed out he's currently only 2% behind Trump (according to 538, a fairly unbiased poll aggregator).

I guess we're about to find out how unrecoverable it was.


Yeah 538 is great. Poll aggregation is the way to go for obvious reasons, it evens out bias via poll sampling from across the spectrum.

Even still, Trump support is notoriously hard to poll and consistently errs towards underrepresenting his actual ultimate electoral support. He consistently outperforms his polling.

Also, with the conservative electoral college advantage, national polls are fine for looking at trends but don't accurately forecast candidate win probability.

Clinton had a 4-point lead in national polling aggregates heading into Election Day 2016, finished with a 2-point lead, and still lost the election soundly because she got crushed in the swing states.

I'd worry more about swing state polling than national polling, and Trump is currently leading the polls in 5 of the 7 swing states

If 538 projections are currently accurate, with Biden trailing by 2, how would you handicap the horse race given polling lessons learned from 2016 and 2020?

Actual handicappers given Biden around a 20% chance to win currently and I just don't see why there's reason to think that's way off given the aforementioned factors.
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In reply to ncsupack1 • 6:22a, 7/10/24
ncsupack1 said:
The way this country is divided, it's going to be close no matter what.

It will come down to who the true independents want and right now I think they're sitting out the election unless the democrats put up a new candidate.
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In reply to wolf5 • 6:25a, 7/10/24
wolf5 said:
ncsupack1 said:
The way this country is divided, it's going to be close no matter what.

It will come down to who the true independents want and right now I think they're sitting out the election unless the democrats put up a new candidate.

Do you consider yourself in that group?

If so who would you run out there if you were Dems?
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In reply to wolf5 • 6:44a, 7/10/24
wolf5 said:
ncsupack1 said:
The way this country is divided, it's going to be close no matter what.

It will come down to who the true independents want and right now I think they're sitting out the election unless the democrats put up a new candidate.


Could be. It will come down to who is more motivated to show up.
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In reply to wolf5 • 7:07a, 7/10/24
wolf5 said:
ncsupack1 said:
The way this country is divided, it's going to be close no matter what.

It will come down to who the true independents want and right now I think they're sitting out the election unless the democrats put up a new candidate.
So, in other words if a "true independent" is going to vote in a National Election, it can only be for a democrat?

Just trying to follow along here...
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In reply to TheStorm • 7:18a, 7/10/24
TheStorm said:
wolf5 said:
ncsupack1 said:
The way this country is divided, it's going to be close no matter what.

It will come down to who the true independents want and right now I think they're sitting out the election unless the democrats put up a new candidate.
So, in other words if a "true independent" is going to vote in a National Election, it can only be for a democrat?

Just trying to follow along here...


Of course
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In reply to Civilized • 7:56a, 7/10/24
Civilized said:
wolf5 said:
ncsupack1 said:
The way this country is divided, it's going to be close no matter what.

It will come down to who the true independents want and right now I think they're sitting out the election unless the democrats put up a new candidate.

Do you consider yourself in that group?

If so who would you run out there if you were Dems?


No im not an independent. Shapiro would be one my votes to replace Biden. He needs to be replaced. Kamala would be fine with me but she's not likable. And let's be honest this become nothing more than a popularity contest, for the most part.
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In reply to TheStorm • 7:59a, 7/10/24
TheStorm said:
wolf5 said:
ncsupack1 said:
The way this country is divided, it's going to be close no matter what.

It will come down to who the true independents want and right now I think they're sitting out the election unless the democrats put up a new candidate.
So, in other words if a "true independent" is going to vote in a National Election, it can only be for a democrat?

Just trying to follow along here...


Where did I say that? I said independents who vote more on issues than party or candidate loyalty. They are still out there and can still swing the direction of an outcome.
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In reply to TheStorm • 8:22a, 7/10/24
TheStorm said:
wolf5 said:
ncsupack1 said:
The way this country is divided, it's going to be close no matter what.

It will come down to who the true independents want and right now I think they're sitting out the election unless the democrats put up a new candidate.
So, in other words if a "true independent" is going to vote in a National Election, it can only be for a democrat?

Just trying to follow along here...


An "independent" is a democrat too embarrassed to say they're a democrat.
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In reply to wolf5 • 9:19a, 7/10/24
wolf5 said:
TheStorm said:
wolf5 said:
ncsupack1 said:
The way this country is divided, it's going to be close no matter what.

It will come down to who the true independents want and right now I think they're sitting out the election unless the democrats put up a new candidate.
So, in other words if a "true independent" is going to vote in a National Election, it can only be for a democrat?

Just trying to follow along here...


Where did I say that? I said independents who vote more on issues than party or candidate loyalty. They are still out there and can still swing the direction of an outcome.
Where did you say THAT? It appears that TheStorm quoted you directly and there's no mention of why the "true independents" would choose to participate in the election other than the potential replacement of Biden.
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9:21a, 7/10/24
looks like I'll be voting for Trump.

Much has to do with the fact he'll be better for the crypto world than Biden would.

I also feel like he didnt get a fair shot last time due to the pandemic. His spit balling on tv didnt help but it was an odd, unique situation.
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In reply to erniencsu02 • 9:32a, 7/10/24
erniencsu02 said:
looks like I'll be voting for Trump.

Much has to do with the fact he'll be better for the crypto world than Biden would.

I also feel like he didnt get a fair shot last time due to the pandemic. His spit balling on tv didnt help but it was an odd, unique situation.


It's a binary decision that's truly a no brainer for anyone that falls in the range of center left to right politically.

I also think a lot of eyes have been opened recently to the gaslighting from the media and the left in regards to Covid, Trump, and now Biden's health.
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