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In reply to hokiewolf • 5:57a, 9/22/22
hokiewolf said:
Going to disagree a bit here.

Politically motivated investigation? Yes because the investigation was started to find something rather than someone made a complaint and an investigation is started to specifically investigate that complaint. To my knowledge, no one or business has accused Trump of wrong doing.

Fraud? I think unethical is a better word. Fraud would mean getting property under false pretense. Here, Trump got favorable loan terms on loans he paid back in full. For it to be fraud there has to be an aggrieved party and there appears to not be one. Those banks either didn't do their due diligence on the assets Trump was using to back the loans or they did do it and ignored it for whatever reason.

If there was something criminal I'm 100% certain the NYAG would've charged, she didn't so that leads me to believe a criminal case would be weak or non existent.

Whether you believe or choose not to believe that what Trump did was unethical, and would disqualify him from earning your vote in a potential Presidential run, is up to us as voters.
Hokie, that is a very reasonable response!

Civ, Michael Cohen and Lititia James both have axes to grind with Trump, for whatever reason. Bank loans are done, all day long, with valued information…. If a bank makes a loan, based on a companies financials, then they have to trust the financial information provide, or have an auditor come in. If a loan is based on an asset, well… they will do there own evaluation, right?

As Hokie eluded, where are the banks that were defrauded? Are they involved in this?
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

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In reply to Steve Videtich • 6:07a, 9/22/22
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.
The End.

Nah two years later with the country worse than ever, we know what our dem brothers and sisters are focused on. Papers they dont know anything about! Trumps real estate! You know, things that MATTER to them. Not surface stuff like can we afford to eat and are we protecting our border.
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In reply to LetEmKnowPack • 6:18a, 9/22/22
High Travoltage said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.
The End.

Nah two years later with the country worse than ever, we know what our dem brothers and sisters are focused on. Papers they dont know anything about! Trumps real estate! You know, things that MATTER to them. Not surface stuff like can we afford to eat and are we protecting our border.
Bingo!!!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

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6:30a, 9/22/22
The allegations independent civ's AG made are the same ones the Manhattan DA made and he did not bring charges. It's a political stunt so fake independents and radical leftists can feign outrage about the "hundreds" of times he pled the fifth.

So much TDS.
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In reply to packgrad • 8:12a, 9/22/22
packgrad said:
The allegations independent civ's AG made are the same ones the Manhattan DA made and he did not bring charges. It's a political stunt so fake independents and radical leftists can feign outrage about the "hundreds" of times he pled the fifth.

So much TDS.
But...but.... TRRRRUUUUUUMMMMMMPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You nailed it. Notice how ol' Hit'n'Run Civ did it again......

Guess his libby blood gets to boiling and he has to let loose with his nonsense from time to time...

Bless his heart....
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9:11a, 9/22/22
Tell Conman he go be okay!All he has to do is hold some more rallies!!One finger salute!!That will help pay for some of tha 250mill,if not more,he's being sued for!!And when you had the chance to talk,you pleaded the 5th!!But yet you gon Hannity and rumble!!The Art of the steal!!
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9:14a, 9/22/22
LOL-what a moron.
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In reply to Marco • 9:38a, 9/22/22
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In reply to Steve Videtich • 9:50a, 9/22/22
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?
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In reply to Civilized • 10:04a, 9/22/22
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?
Wow....

You rip on Trump but when it's time for you to own up to the **** show you helped elect you decide to "skip it."

You are a blue shirt away from being nothing but a unc homer. Hell, you may as well be the way you post. FACT.
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In reply to Civilized • 11:02a, 9/22/22
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
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In reply to Steve Videtich • 11:03a, 9/22/22
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.


Democrats can't say anything about their guy or the job he's doing. All they have "but Trump". It's pathetic really.
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11:40a, 9/22/22
Lol!All y all upset cause your cult leader in deep s...!!Speaking of vocabulary,if you can comprehend what Conman say you should not have a problem with no one else unless you disagree with what they say!Live with it,he is a FRAUD!!
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11:47a, 9/22/22
You got your special master,Donald!!How is that turning out for you?Give me back those documents,criminal!!Even your own appointed judges,2 of them laughing @ you,all but loose Cannon!!Got your kids involved too,Lol!Inflating property to make you rich!! !!
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11:51a, 9/22/22
I need 11,780 votes,which 1 more than what have!!!Georgia on my mind!!!!THEY ALWAYS SAY,WHAT IS DONE IN THE DARK COMES TO LIGHT!!1 Finger salute!!
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11:51a, 9/22/22
Rent free
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In reply to Steve Videtich • 12:08p, 9/22/22
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
The clear difference is that lots of people on this board still excuse Trump's ridiculousness. They don't say he's a boy Scout but still have these mealy-mouthed kinda-sorta excuses they make to maybe vote for him again if it comes down to it.

It's not hard.

Biden and Trump both suck. It's obvious. Trump is a loon and Biden is senile. They are both profoundly unfit to be President. It's weird that that's not a near-universal view on here or in this country.

Let's elect someone that's not either one of them to be President. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle the new President is on. It would be profoundly bad for this country if either Trump or Biden sniff the White House again.
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In reply to Civilized • 12:13p, 9/22/22
Lol. Like you won't vote for Biden again, and talk about TTTTTTRRRUUUMMMPP for 4 more years.
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In reply to packgrad • 12:19p, 9/22/22
packgrad said:
Lol. Like you won't vote for Biden again, and talk about TTTTTTRRRUUUMMMPP for 4 more years.
He's going to vote for whoever has a (D) next to his name next time around... he certainly isn't fooling anyone around here.
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In reply to Civilized • 12:27p, 9/22/22
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
The clear difference is that lots of people on this board still excuse Trump's ridiculousness. They don't say he's a boy Scout but still have these mealy-mouthed kinda-sorta excuses they make to maybe vote for him again if it comes down to it.

It's not hard.

Biden and Trump both suck. It's obvious. Trump is a loon and Biden is senile. They are both profoundly unfit to be President. It's weird that that's not a near-universal view on here or in this country.

Let's elect someone that's not either one of them to be President. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle the new President is on. It would be profoundly bad for this country if either Trump or Biden sniff the White House again.


Respectfully Civ, how was the country doing under Trump vs. Biden? As a well educated person, see the difference…right?
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 12:36p, 9/22/22
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
The clear difference is that lots of people on this board still excuse Trump's ridiculousness. They don't say he's a boy Scout but still have these mealy-mouthed kinda-sorta excuses they make to maybe vote for him again if it comes down to it.

It's not hard.

Biden and Trump both suck. It's obvious. Trump is a loon and Biden is senile. They are both profoundly unfit to be President. It's weird that that's not a near-universal view on here or in this country.

Let's elect someone that's not either one of them to be President. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle the new President is on. It would be profoundly bad for this country if either Trump or Biden sniff the White House again.


Respectfully Civ, how was the country doing under Trump vs. Biden? As a well educated person, see the difference…right?

Under Trump pre- or post-COVID?
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In reply to packgrad • 12:37p, 9/22/22
packgrad said:
Lol. Like you won't vote for Biden again, and talk about TTTTTTRRRUUUMMMPP for 4 more years.

Wrong.
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In reply to Civilized • 12:45p, 9/22/22
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
The clear difference is that lots of people on this board still excuse Trump's ridiculousness. They don't say he's a boy Scout but still have these mealy-mouthed kinda-sorta excuses they make to maybe vote for him again if it comes down to it.

It's not hard.

Biden and Trump both suck. It's obvious. Trump is a loon and Biden is senile. They are both profoundly unfit to be President. It's weird that that's not a near-universal view on here or in this country.

Let's elect someone that's not either one of them to be President. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle the new President is on. It would be profoundly bad for this country if either Trump or Biden sniff the White House again.


Respectfully Civ, how was the country doing under Trump vs. Biden? As a well educated person, see the difference…right?

Under Trump pre- or post-COVID?


Covid under Biden was just as bad if not worse. We just didn't get the hourly death count from the msm with Biden. Made it seem better.

Trump was an outsider. An abrasive yankee (aren't all yankees) that rubbed people the wrong way. Joe has been in Washington his entire life and done absolutely nothing but get rich.

I like the direction of the country under Trump vs. Biden. You?
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In reply to Civilized • 12:59p, 9/22/22
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
The clear difference is that lots of people on this board still excuse Trump's ridiculousness. They don't say he's a boy Scout but still have these mealy-mouthed kinda-sorta excuses they make to maybe vote for him again if it comes down to it.

It's not hard.

Biden and Trump both suck. It's obvious. Trump is a loon and Biden is senile. They are both profoundly unfit to be President. It's weird that that's not a near-universal view on here or in this country.

Let's elect someone that's not either one of them to be President. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle the new President is on. It would be profoundly bad for this country if either Trump or Biden sniff the White House again.


Just like you have defended Biden and other Democrats for similar behavior? It's not hard.

You virtue signal that Biden is bad but provide no substance to back it up. Virtue signaling.

Do you not think people would vote for better candidates if they presented themselves? You and I both know that is near impossible. Pure people aren't running for president and the powers that be aren't going to let it Hakeem if they did.

The blatant TDS is plain as the nose on your face.
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In reply to Civilized • 1:03p, 9/22/22
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
The clear difference is that lots of people on this board still excuse Trump's ridiculousness. They don't say he's a boy Scout but still have these mealy-mouthed kinda-sorta excuses they make to maybe vote for him again if it comes down to it.

It's not hard.

Biden and Trump both suck. It's obvious. Trump is a loon and Biden is senile. They are both profoundly unfit to be President. It's weird that that's not a near-universal view on here or in this country.

Let's elect someone that's not either one of them to be President. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle the new President is on. It would be profoundly bad for this country if either Trump or Biden sniff the White House again.


I haven't seen people on here hyping Trump hard for 2024 like you seem to believe. I've seen the board Republicans mostly saying they want DeSantis to be the nominee (myself included).
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In reply to Civilized • 1:35p, 9/22/22
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
The clear difference is that lots of people on this board still excuse Trump's ridiculousness. They don't say he's a boy Scout but still have these mealy-mouthed kinda-sorta excuses they make to maybe vote for him again if it comes down to it.

It's not hard.

Biden and Trump both suck. It's obvious. Trump is a loon and Biden is senile. They are both profoundly unfit to be President. It's weird that that's not a near-universal view on here or in this country.

Let's elect someone that's not either one of them to be President. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle the new President is on. It would be profoundly bad for this country if either Trump or Biden sniff the White House again.
Why did you never answer the bullet points that myself and a few other posted on President Trump's accomplishments? Why do you still ignore them?

You know full well why you didn't and you won't. You can't stand the fact that the country was a hell of a lot better off under President Trump than it is now.

The only damn thing you have to say is that President Trump is a big orange meanie that got you all up in your feelings.

I have never said President Trump was the second coming. He wasn't in my top five choices. But, it beats the holy living hell out of anyone you and your MARXIST PARTY will ever trot out. FACT.

When you decide to own up to the fact that President Trump had this country headed in the right direction and your party wants nothing but to destroy it and turn it into a MARXIST single party rule state you will have finally wised up. I have little to no expectations of you ever achieving that.
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2:05p, 9/22/22
I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP!!!!

I also think Trump has an ego bigger than commercialized Christmas. I'm pretty confident he's a hard nosed business man that has used influence to get things done. And.... I would rather have a person that's gotten **** done, in the private sector, than a politician that's gotten rich in the public sector.

Get over your TDS!!!!

One last thing, perfection happened once! Jesus!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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3:23p, 9/22/22
That's what make this America!Your freedom to vote for who you want too!!Can't knock that!!
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4:06p, 9/22/22
Thank you goes out too 11th circuit court of appeals!2 judges appointed by tha Conman and 1 by Curious George!Appeal granted ,move foward!They took there blinders off unlike Loose Cannon!!Lol!Some of you need to look an learn!!SmBIGh!!
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4:17p, 9/22/22
Trump:IF. YOU'RE PRESIDENT YOU CAN JUST SAY DOCUMENTS ARE DECLASSIFIED AND THAT MAKES THEM DECLASSIFIED!!Wrong,again!!
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 4:22p, 9/22/22
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
The clear difference is that lots of people on this board still excuse Trump's ridiculousness. They don't say he's a boy Scout but still have these mealy-mouthed kinda-sorta excuses they make to maybe vote for him again if it comes down to it.

It's not hard.

Biden and Trump both suck. It's obvious. Trump is a loon and Biden is senile. They are both profoundly unfit to be President. It's weird that that's not a near-universal view on here or in this country.

Let's elect someone that's not either one of them to be President. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle the new President is on. It would be profoundly bad for this country if either Trump or Biden sniff the White House again.


Respectfully Civ, how was the country doing under Trump vs. Biden? As a well educated person, see the difference…right?

Under Trump pre- or post-COVID?


Covid under Biden was just as bad if not worse. We just didn't get the hourly death count from the msm with Biden. Made it seem better.

Trump was an outsider. An abrasive yankee (aren't all yankees) that rubbed people the wrong way. Joe has been in Washington his entire life and done absolutely nothing but get rich.

I like the direction of the country under Trump vs. Biden. You?

I'm talking about the post-COVID economy under Trump.

That's what you mean when you say you liked the direction the country was headed right? You liked how the economy was doing?
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In reply to 910wolf • 4:27p, 9/22/22
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Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
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Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
The clear difference is that lots of people on this board still excuse Trump's ridiculousness. They don't say he's a boy Scout but still have these mealy-mouthed kinda-sorta excuses they make to maybe vote for him again if it comes down to it.

It's not hard.

Biden and Trump both suck. It's obvious. Trump is a loon and Biden is senile. They are both profoundly unfit to be President. It's weird that that's not a near-universal view on here or in this country.

Let's elect someone that's not either one of them to be President. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle the new President is on. It would be profoundly bad for this country if either Trump or Biden sniff the White House again.


I haven't seen people on here hyping Trump hard for 2024 like you seem to believe. I've seen the board Republicans mostly saying they want DeSantis to be the nominee (myself included).

Word. I hope that happens.

I haven't seen so much hype, just a bunch of excuses about how Trump's a political victim of the Justice Department/NY AG/lamestream media.

I dunno, maybe him being investigated for tax, insurance, and bank fraud is just because he's a fraud.
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In reply to Steve Videtich • 4:30p, 9/22/22
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
The clear difference is that lots of people on this board still excuse Trump's ridiculousness. They don't say he's a boy Scout but still have these mealy-mouthed kinda-sorta excuses they make to maybe vote for him again if it comes down to it.

It's not hard.

Biden and Trump both suck. It's obvious. Trump is a loon and Biden is senile. They are both profoundly unfit to be President. It's weird that that's not a near-universal view on here or in this country.

Let's elect someone that's not either one of them to be President. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle the new President is on. It would be profoundly bad for this country if either Trump or Biden sniff the White House again.


Just like you have defended Biden and other Democrats for similar behavior? It's not hard.

You virtue signal that Biden is bad but provide no substance to back it up. Virtue signaling.

Do you not think people would vote for better candidates if they presented themselves? You and I both know that is near impossible. Pure people aren't running for president and the powers that be aren't going to let it Hakeem if they did.

The blatant TDS is plain as the nose on your face.

What kind of substance are you looking for?

You don't think DeSantis is a better candidate than Trump?
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In reply to Civilized • 4:33p, 9/22/22
Nm. Waste of time.
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In reply to Civilized • 5:46p, 9/22/22
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Civilized said:
Steve Videtich said:
Neat! Now do one for Biden and his son Hunter.

Let's just skip to the good part and say both Biden and Trump suck, both are obviously unfit to be President, and then let's do better next time.

Or are we for some crazy reason going to keep defending one or both of them because we think the media or AG's or whoever are biased, and really one or both of them are actually fit to be President?


Civ, that sounds good when you say it. But, your actions don't back it up. None of the people on this board have ever accused Trump of being a boy scout sent straight from heaven.

You go on long rants with details on the evil that Trump is. But, when asked about the other, it's simply, "let's just agree their bad people too." At times you've even defended them.
The clear difference is that lots of people on this board still excuse Trump's ridiculousness. They don't say he's a boy Scout but still have these mealy-mouthed kinda-sorta excuses they make to maybe vote for him again if it comes down to it.

It's not hard.

Biden and Trump both suck. It's obvious. Trump is a loon and Biden is senile. They are both profoundly unfit to be President. It's weird that that's not a near-universal view on here or in this country.

Let's elect someone that's not either one of them to be President. It doesn't matter which side of the aisle the new President is on. It would be profoundly bad for this country if either Trump or Biden sniff the White House again.


Just like you have defended Biden and other Democrats for similar behavior? It's not hard.

You virtue signal that Biden is bad but provide no substance to back it up. Virtue signaling.

Do you not think people would vote for better candidates if they presented themselves? You and I both know that is near impossible. Pure people aren't running for president and the powers that be aren't going to let it Hakeem if they did.

The blatant TDS is plain as the nose on your face.

What kind of substance are you looking for?

You don't think DeSantis is a better candidate than Trump?


Civ, I'm not going to lie. There's a small part of me that would love for Trump to win again just to see the heads explode all over the left.

But, yes I've said before I think DeSantis would have a better chance of winning in 2024, just my opinion. He would eliminate the "Trump hate" vote. But, even you have complained about DeSantis. Plus, the media and left will do everything they can to smear him and relate him to Trump in any way they can.
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