The Biden Administration..V3

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In reply to hokiewolf • 3:37p, 2/23/23
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Lol " Tens of thousands of pounds of goods, food, water being delivered to the people of East Palestine, Ohio" = Trump branded water.

Trump wouldn't have done anything if he didn't think it would be politically expedient to him. It's all a show.

Bettigieg showing up a day later and accusing Republicans of being at fault is also part of the show. Just go solve the problem, stop taking credit or assigning blame while there's still cleanup work to do. So damn frustrating


Respectfully, what have you done for the good people of Ohio?
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 3:55p, 2/23/23
This whataboutism argument is tired.

The original post said Trump did something that wasn't about him. I'm simply pointing out that that's not the case. The man said his water is better than all other water. What does that mean? Is it more wet?

He took an opportunity to take an industrial accident and instead of putting the focus on the residents of East Palestine he turned it into a political rally complete with Trump branded water hats and tshirts.
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 4:00p, 2/23/23
I find it fascinating that a bunch of small federal government proponents are all of a sudden all upset that the Federal Government didn't do anything.

What's the policy difference that Trump has that Biden doesn't that would've changed the response to this accident?

Is all political theater and I'm tired of it.
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In reply to BBW12OG • 4:02p, 2/23/23
I flagged your three posts. I hope you go away for a while.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 4:06p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
This whataboutism argument is tired.

The original post said Trump did something that wasn't about him. I'm simply pointing out that that's not the case. The man said his water is better than all other water. What does that mean? Is it more wet?

He took an opportunity to take an industrial accident and instead of putting the focus on the residents of East Palestine he turned it into a political rally complete with Trump branded water hats and tshirts.
But Trump... water.

He really triggers you. Hilarious that you think his visit did not put the focus on the residents of East Palestine. You have no objectivity. It literally caused the current administration to quit ignoring the tragedy and visit. Biden visited the Ukraine. East Palestine is beneath him.

The whataboutism argument is tired? Yeah, so is the TDS argument.

He visited, brought water, brought food, brought attention. Good for him.
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In reply to packgrad • 4:12p, 2/23/23
What policy difference did big government Trump say in his stump speech that would've of changed the federal response?
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In reply to hokiewolf • 4:21p, 2/23/23
I didn't watch his speech. What did Biden say about it?
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In reply to hokiewolf • 4:22p, 2/23/23
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I flagged your three posts. I hope you go away for a while.
Glad you finally admit it.

You are who you are. A liar and a flaming MARXIST.

If it makes you feel better I'll flag them too.

I'll keep on being who I am. You keep on pretending to be something you aren't.

Karma is an undefeated beeyatch. You'll soon find that out.
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4:24p, 2/23/23
In keeping with being honest.. I can't "flag" my own posts.

Please someone flag them for me. Absolutely flag them.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 4:36p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
This whataboutism argument is tired.

The original post said Trump did something that wasn't about him. I'm simply pointing out that that's not the case. The man said his water is better than all other water. What does that mean? Is it more wet?

He took an opportunity to take an industrial accident and instead of putting the focus on the residents of East Palestine he turned it into a political rally complete with Trump branded water hats and tshirts.


I think what you're trying to say is "I've done nothing but something-something-something Trump"!
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In reply to packgrad • 4:46p, 2/23/23
He had nothing policy wise. Other than he "cares" more.
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4:49p, 2/23/23
BTW my opinion is this is a State and not a Federal problem and should be handled by Ohio. I guess that small Federal Govt mindset makes me a Marxist.
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 4:50p, 2/23/23
Again, what should have the federal government done differently in their response?
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In reply to hokiewolf • 4:50p, 2/23/23
I don't care. Doesn't take much effort to care more than the Biden administration though.

Good on Trump for showing up.
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In reply to BBW12OG • 4:51p, 2/23/23
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hokiewolf said:
I flagged your three posts. I hope you go away for a while.
Glad you finally admit it.

You are who you are. A liar and a flaming MARXIST.

If it makes you feel better I'll flag them too.

I'll keep on being who I am. You keep on pretending to be something you aren't.

Karma is an undefeated beeyatch. You'll soon find that out.
how exactly am I going to "find that out"?
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In reply to hokiewolf • 4:57p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
Again, what should have the federal government done differently in their response?


My point is you've done nothing but still bad mouth someone who did. Do you not understand how ridiculous you sound?
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In reply to hokiewolf • 5:01p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
This whataboutism argument is tired.

The original post said Trump did something that wasn't about him. I'm simply pointing out that that's not the case. The man said his water is better than all other water. What does that mean? Is it more wet?

He took an opportunity to take an industrial accident and instead of putting the focus on the residents of East Palestine he turned it into a political rally complete with Trump branded water hats and tshirts.


You know I hate Trump with about as much passion as anyone (especially as someone who voted for him twice).

While I agree with you it was grandstanding, I don't really have an issue with it. Even if it only gave the locals there some easy access to drinking water for a day, that's ok. We pride ourselves on being a country that stand up for those most impacted, so while contributors often have ulterior motives, it's better than nothing

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In reply to hokiewolf • 5:04p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
BBW12OG said:
hokiewolf said:
I flagged your three posts. I hope you go away for a while.
Glad you finally admit it.

You are who you are. A liar and a flaming MARXIST.

If it makes you feel better I'll flag them too.

I'll keep on being who I am. You keep on pretending to be something you aren't.

Karma is an undefeated beeyatch. You'll soon find that out.
how exactly am I going to "find that out"?
Ha Ha!! You already are... you are being called out by one of your own. That is exactly what I meant by that comment.

You are a clown. Have another beer. Enjoy!!!
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 5:05p, 2/23/23
What's ridiculous is using an industrial accident as a way to blame republicans for it or coming to the town under the guise of "I care" and having a political rally.

I know you all don't understand it because you are defending the populist Republican opinion. That's fine. But it's disingenuous to be dismissive of the disagreement without any consideration
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In reply to hokiewolf • 5:06p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
Again, what should have the federal government done differently in their response?


What specifically do you support about the federal government response to the air and water disaster in Ohio?
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In reply to hokiewolf • 5:07p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
What's ridiculous is using an industrial accident as a way to blame republicans for it or coming to the town under the guise of "I care" and having a political rally.

I know you all don't understand it because you are defending the populist Republican opinion. That's fine. But it's disingenuous to be dismissive of the disagreement without any consideration


It's disingenuous to pretend you're coming at this from a position of objectivity, and not tds.
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In reply to Packchem91 • 5:08p, 2/23/23
No one here can answer a simple question of what should the Federal Government have done differently that would have impacted this incident?

Instead, it's being called names and being dismissed and generally acting out here. No one wants to answer a simple damn question.
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In reply to packgrad • 5:09p, 2/23/23
packgrad said:
hokiewolf said:
Again, what should have the federal government done differently in their response?


What specifically do you support about the federal government response to the air and water disaster in Ohio?
it's a State of Ohio issue. There shouldn't be a federal response
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In reply to hokiewolf • 5:12p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
packgrad said:
hokiewolf said:
Again, what should have the federal government done differently in their response?


What specifically do you support about the federal government response to the air and water disaster in Ohio?
it's a State of Ohio issue. There shouldn't be a federal response
So every incident that occurs in blue states that gets immediate attention is OK?

You are grasping at straws. You are proving exactly who you are. Keep talking Pinocchio...keep talking....
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In reply to hokiewolf • 5:15p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
No one here can answer a simple question of what should the Federal Government have done differently that would have impacted this incident?

Instead, it's being called names and being dismissed and generally acting out here. No one wants to answer a simple damn question.
I agree with your small govt position, however, we've not had such a dinosaur in more than 100 years. That fact that Biden is a no-show handing out billions of dollars in Ukraine and stoking WW3......and Buttplug is taking personal leave is offensive to most here. A photo-op is better than zilch. You're quiet on this issue, yet you complain about Trump and Trump bottled water.

If I had my own bottled water I'd be giving it out too........I sure as he$$ would not be out paying retail for it. I guess you would.

I don't know about the liar claim but I have observed your waffling for about two years now. You just need your "safe space" and all is well............while the globe burns. You see "NUZING"



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In reply to hokiewolf • 5:16p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
packgrad said:
hokiewolf said:
Again, what should have the federal government done differently in their response?


What specifically do you support about the federal government response to the air and water disaster in Ohio?
it's a State of Ohio issue. There shouldn't be a federal response


So you're opposed to the EPA taking over clean up this week?
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In reply to hokiewolf • 5:17p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
This whataboutism argument is tired.

The original post said Trump did something that wasn't about him. I'm simply pointing out that that's not the case. The man said his water is better than all other water. What does that mean? Is it more wet?

He took an opportunity to take an industrial accident and instead of putting the focus on the residents of East Palestine he turned it into a political rally complete with Trump branded water hats and tshirts.
The neglect and visible lack of concern from BidenButt kind of created a wide open political opp for the likes of Trump. Had they done their damned jobs and taken hold of the situation, they'd not have been embarrassed by Trump and Trump wouldn't have had the political impact that he did.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 5:20p, 2/23/23
hokiewolf said:
No one here can answer a simple question of what should the Federal Government have done differently that would have impacted this incident?

Instead, it's being called names and being dismissed and generally acting out here. No one wants to answer a simple damn question.



Oh, to be clear, if shoes were reversed and a Dem candidate did this while the Trump admin was doing it's normal due diligence with Fed agencies, some of the posters here lauding Trump would be screaming about how it was done for show

Like pretty much every single political party debate goes.
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In reply to packgrad • 5:21p, 2/23/23
packgrad said:
hokiewolf said:
packgrad said:
hokiewolf said:
Again, what should have the federal government done differently in their response?


What specifically do you support about the federal government response to the air and water disaster in Ohio?
it's a State of Ohio issue. There shouldn't be a federal response


So you're opposed to the EPA taking over clean up this week?
hell yes I am. The State of Ohio employees competent professionals at the state level that wouldn't do anything different the. What the EPA would do. They use the same monitoring equipment, they use the same testing equipment and labs.

All you are getting with a Federal response is a Federal bureaucracy.

Norfolk Southern had to pick the lesser of two evils, drain the tanks and burn the contents, or let them explode under pressure in the tanks and level the town.

Pretty tough decision to make. I think it's premature to call this and "air and water disaster" at this time.
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In reply to Oldsouljer • 5:23p, 2/23/23
Oldsouljer said:
hokiewolf said:
This whataboutism argument is tired.

The original post said Trump did something that wasn't about him. I'm simply pointing out that that's not the case. The man said his water is better than all other water. What does that mean? Is it more wet?

He took an opportunity to take an industrial accident and instead of putting the focus on the residents of East Palestine he turned it into a political rally complete with Trump branded water hats and tshirts.
The neglect and visible lack of concern from BidenButt kind of created a wide open political opp for the likes of Trump. Had they done their damned jobs and taken hold of the situation, they'd not have been embarrassed by Trump and Trump wouldn't have had the political impact that he did.
Why do you think the Federal Government needs to handle the situation? Again, I am for smaller Federal Govt, letting the State of Ohio manage an industrial accident within the State of Ohio is and was the right thing to do. What federal regulation was broken here That requires a federal response?
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In reply to BBW12OG • 5:27p, 2/23/23
BBW12OG said:
hokiewolf said:
packgrad said:
hokiewolf said:
Again, what should have the federal government done differently in their response?


What specifically do you support about the federal government response to the air and water disaster in Ohio?
it's a State of Ohio issue. There shouldn't be a federal response
So every incident that occurs in blue states that gets immediate attention is OK?
(I'm going to try and respond to you in hopes there is dialogue) I'm not sure what you mean, I don't care if the State government is democratic or republican, if this same accident happened tomorrow in California, it's not a federal disaster. It's a state issue to handle.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 5:27p, 2/23/23
Sometimes just being on the spot, makes people think you're doing everything in your power to remediate makes a difference. Neither the Prez nor the TransSec have been out there much. Or, to better answer your question, they could be doing what Trump has been doing, lol.
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In reply to Oldsouljer • 5:28p, 2/23/23
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Sometimes just being on the spot, makes people think you're doing everything in your power to remediate makes a difference. Neither the Prez nor the TransSec have been out there much. Or, to better answer your question, they could be doing what Trump has been doing, lol.
At least show up...........like you give a damn! PRETEND to care..

Oh, yeah, he's doing that in Kiev
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In reply to Werewolf • 5:29p, 2/23/23
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hokiewolf said:
No one here can answer a simple question of what should the Federal Government have done differently that would have impacted this incident?

Instead, it's being called names and being dismissed and generally acting out here. No one wants to answer a simple damn question.
I agree with your small govt position, however, we've not had such a dinosaur in more than 100 years. That fact that Biden is a no-show handing out billions of dollars in Ukraine and stoking WW3......and Buttplug is taking personal leave is offensive to most here. A photo-op is better than zilch. You're quiet on this issue, yet you complain about Trump and Trump bottled water.

If I had my own bottled water I'd be giving it out too........I sure as he$$ would not be out paying retail for it. I guess you would.

I don't know about the liar claim but I have observed your waffling for about two years now. You just need your "safe space" and all is well............while the globe burns. You see "NUZING"



I'm the one being accused of derangement syndrome but it's ok to have your feelings hurt or be mad because Buttigeig didn't parachute into a situation he is ill-equipped to handle?
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5:31p, 2/23/23
hokie can't answer what the federal government has done that he supports. Unless his answer is ignore it. Is that what you support, hokie? An air and water disaster should be ignored by the sitting administration. Or is 3 weeks not enough for you to determine if it's a disaster yet?

Maybe hokie doesn't want the federal government acknowledging or helping facilitate disaster clean up. Maybe he's fine with residents not having drinking water or clean air because he pretends he thinks it's the states responsibility and the federal government should have no involvement.

Maybe it's all a bull**** charade because Trump did something and now hokie has to pretend he "cares" about the theater.

One thing I think is very clear though. hokie wants attention.
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