BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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And so, again, lets hope they do like the Dems did in 2020 with HRC....put her out to pasture, give her a minimal role in the entire process, just enough to no cheese off the loyalists to her....but not enough to allow Trump to tie her around Biden's neck. THe GOP needs to do something similar.

Find a candidate who is independent of Trump, who can reclaim some of the white educated males he lost, maybe use messaging that says "we did better for black people economically than Biden did", and mostly, avoid the generation of huge throngs of "anyone but Trump" turnout.

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This is the part that you don't seem to get (or don't want to). It isn't going to change anything. Whoever wins the nomination becomes the de facto "next Trump".

I've thought about, well if we pick DeSantis instead of Trump "maybe" we'll get more of a fair shake from the MSM and the woke mob? Nope. Will. not. work. that. way. in. real. life.

The MSM and the woke mob is going to have their pitchforks and torches out regardless of whether it's Trump, DeSantis - or even a woman. That's just the way that it is going to be... and until you finally acknowledge that to yourself, your wife, your kids - or whoever... you'll continue to stick to your "it's Trump's fault" logic on everything.

I'm sure that deep, down inside that you probably think that none of the BLM / Antifa riots would have happened if someone other than Trump had been president at the time?

Like I said. It's not going to work that way. The left is certifiably crazy. Any Republican is going to get the exact same treatment going forward that Trump got.

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No to mention, no matter who runs for the Republicans, the media will try and find, or create, any connection to Trump that they can. This way they can try and make him a complete villain.

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Yes, I suspect this will absolutely happen -- its why i say the GOP needs to figure out a way to separate him. If he's the current "kiss the ring" guy, they'll hang him around the neck of candidates.

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I'm not sure it will work, they tried it with Youngkin and it didn't stick

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and believe it all you want; however, you know (if you want to admit it) that Trump and the America First movement pushed Youngkin over the goal line...

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the data from Virginia says otherwise but ok

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When you make statements such as these, and you often do, why is it that you never provide an ounce of proof? How hard is it to post a link to substantiate your claims?

Or... most likely... they are exactly what I just said. YOUR claims...

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Allow me to demonstrate my bonafides, unlike you who sends out links to dummies.com

I am really good friends with a Virginia State Legislator. The data showed.

1. Suburban women were fed up with schools not being open and basically revolted.

2. Younkin outperformed red counties by wider margins than the great Donald J Trump

I will give Trumpsters base credit for voting for a candidate who did not accept Trumps endorsement though, so I guess you're technically correct.

Think about it Buddy, I went to Virginia Tech, I grew up in the South side. It ain't that hard

hokiewolf said:

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What a serious and ethical breach of the Supreme Court. If a clerk leaked this, they should be fired and disbarred. If a justice leaked it, they should be impeached. This is an incredible crisis that Chief Justice Roberts needs to handle with extreme measures.

Leaking an opinion before it's released is on par with trying to stop an election from being certified. I actually think it's worse.

It will be interesting to watch who in the media twists themselves into excuse making and downplaying the event.

The Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito and obtained by POLITICO.

“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” Alito writes. https://t.co/nl3JFLx9xg

— POLITICO (@politico) May 3, 2022

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Hooooooooooooooo boy this could get ugly quickly

This could be bad for the GOP as this will energize the Democratic base like nothing before. I hope I'm wrong

jkpackfan said:

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This could be bad for the GOP as this will energize the Democratic base like nothing before. I hope I'm wrong

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That is open to question. The younger generations has polled more pro-life in recent years. Furthermore, the abortion issue is more philosophical than bread-and-butter and in hard times, practical concerns trump philosophical concerns in an election.

It just goes back to the states, like pre 1973. If someone wants to off their fetus by a provider, they may need to drive or fly to do it.

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It just goes back to the states, like pre 1973. If someone wants to off their fetus by a provider, they may need to drive or fly to do it.

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Correct!

I don't think anybody, in a non-emotional state, wouldn't see the good in this decision, provided it stands. This country has moved more and more of its country's decisions to the federal government. We need more federalism! States are Sovereign, outside of the few delegated powers, given to the Federal government, by "The States"

Remember, we would not have this federal government if the States didn't create it...

hokiewolf said:

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What a serious and ethical breach of the Supreme Court. If a clerk leaked this, they should be fired and disbarred. If a justice leaked it, they should be impeached. This is an incredible crisis that Chief Justice Roberts needs to handle with extreme measures.

Leaking an opinion before it's released is on par with trying to stop an election from being certified. I actually think it's worse.

It will be interesting to watch who in the media twists themselves into excuse making and downplaying the event.

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Such a poor analogy! Tell me if you want an education...

caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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What a serious and ethical breach of the Supreme Court. If a clerk leaked this, they should be fired and disbarred. If a justice leaked it, they should be impeached. This is an incredible crisis that Chief Justice Roberts needs to handle with extreme measures.

Leaking an opinion before it's released is on par with trying to stop an election from being certified. I actually think it's worse.

It will be interesting to watch who in the media twists themselves into excuse making and downplaying the event.

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Such a poor analogy! Tell me if you want an education...

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. It's not with respect to the media. If they aren't up in arms about a serious breach of the Supreme Court then their reaction to Jan 6 is grossly overstated

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Get ready for some peaceful protests...

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If we even get a hint that a Justice changed vote because of said protests, the last shred of trust in the USSC is gone, and maybe with it, the country. I'm not sure where the patience of Texas runs out.

This is how we view things…

https://gettr.com/comment/c107ofofb77

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This could be bad for the GOP as this will energize the Democratic base like nothing before. I hope I'm wrong

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In light of the last 24 hours, I might have to amend my previous comment to say that if it is perceived that a Justice is perceived to have changed their vote due to the mob, or if the outright threats that have been made materialize, it's not just the Dem base that will be energized.

Oldsouljer said:

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jkpackfan said:

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This could be bad for the GOP as this will energize the Democratic base like nothing before. I hope I'm wrong

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In light of the last 24 hours, I might have to amend my previous comment to say that if it is perceived that a Justice is perceived to have changed their vote due to the mob, or if the outright threats that have been made materialize, it's not just the Dem base that will be energized.

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I honestly don't think its going to make much of a difference. Abortion stance is pretty clear cut between the parties. There might be a few in the middle thatll sway in one direction or the other, but I dont think its going to be the massive blue push some think it might be

Oldsouljer said:

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jkpackfan said:

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This could be bad for the GOP as this will energize the Democratic base like nothing before. I hope I'm wrong

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In light of the last 24 hours, I might have to amend my previous comment to say that if it is perceived that a Justice is perceived to have changed their vote due to the mob, or if the outright threats that have been made materialize, it's not just the Dem base that will be energized.

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Never underestimate the lefts' absolutism and their desire for single party rule. They can snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory better than NCSU athletics. They prove it everyday.

What could be a bit of a positive for their MARXIST PARTY and desire for single-party rule in the United States will spiral out of control. They have zero legit messaging, zero discipline with those false flag messages and the ones they trot out to deliver whatever asinine messages they decide on often resemble something out of Ringling Brothers Circus in the late 60's!!

Yeah.... that ****show may work in the uber left NYC and California but on main street America how many people simply shake their heads and say.... "Damn...just damn....?"

Funny how the board lefties have all of a sudden disappeared. I guess they broke out their pink ***** hats, took off to D.C. and are currently screaming at the top of the lungs in front of the Supreme Court!!

Clowns.

Oldsouljer said:

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FlossyDFlynt said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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jkpackfan said:

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This could be bad for the GOP as this will energize the Democratic base like nothing before. I hope I'm wrong

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In light of the last 24 hours, I might have to amend my previous comment to say that if it is perceived that a Justice is perceived to have changed their vote due to the mob, or if the outright threats that have been made materialize, it's not just the Dem base that will be energized.

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I honestly don't think its going to make much of a difference. Abortion stance is pretty clear cut between the parties. There might be a few in the middle thatll sway in one direction or the other, but I dont think its going to be the massive blue push some think it might be

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Abortion in and of itself, morally or legally speaking is one thing, but the violation of established procedure and law by an individual who leaked this in deliberate subversion of established procedure, tradition, and law, IS the bigger issue here, at least to people who see their nation going down some very dark and scary pathways.

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And, it's only going to get worse.

Oldsouljer said:

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FlossyDFlynt said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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jkpackfan said:

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This could be bad for the GOP as this will energize the Democratic base like nothing before. I hope I'm wrong

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In light of the last 24 hours, I might have to amend my previous comment to say that if it is perceived that a Justice is perceived to have changed their vote due to the mob, or if the outright threats that have been made materialize, it's not just the Dem base that will be energized.

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I honestly don't think its going to make much of a difference. Abortion stance is pretty clear cut between the parties. There might be a few in the middle thatll sway in one direction or the other, but I dont think its going to be the massive blue push some think it might be

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Abortion in and of itself, morally or legally speaking is one thing, but the violation of established procedure and law by an individual who leaked this in deliberate subversion of established procedure, tradition, and law, IS the bigger issue here, at least to people who see their nation going down some very dark and scary pathways.

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Not to nick-pick your excellent post; but, here goes... we don't know if the leak is illegal! We do know it's a violation of established procedures within the court.

caryking said:

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This is how we view things…

https://gettr.com/comment/c107ofofb77

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Excellent gettr post. A true Republic should serve as a petri dish of potential government policy. If policy works well then another State may adopt something similar and if a policy works poorly then all states know not to implement it.

We currently have a corrupt and tyrannical federal government drunk with power.

caryking said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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This could be bad for the GOP as this will energize the Democratic base like nothing before. I hope I'm wrong

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In light of the last 24 hours, I might have to amend my previous comment to say that if it is perceived that a Justice is perceived to have changed their vote due to the mob, or if the outright threats that have been made materialize, it's not just the Dem base that will be energized.

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I honestly don't think its going to make much of a difference. Abortion stance is pretty clear cut between the parties. There might be a few in the middle thatll sway in one direction or the other, but I dont think its going to be the massive blue push some think it might be

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Abortion in and of itself, morally or legally speaking is one thing, but the violation of established procedure and law by an individual who leaked this in deliberate subversion of established procedure, tradition, and law, IS the bigger issue here, at least to people who see their nation going down some very dark and scary pathways.

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And, it's only going to get worse.

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Can it really?

Consider this... If you cannot define what a women is, then you can't outline what a "Women Rights" issue is.

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It shouldn't shock anyone that the MARXIST PARTY all of a sudden is clamoring for "women's rights" when three weeks ago they nominated and appointed a Justice to the very same SCOTUS that couldn't define what a woman is....

You lefties are going to get everything you deserve....

Crickets from the board lefties.... wonder why?

pic.twitter.com/c9yJuSQ0Ht

— Bo Snerdley (@BoSnerdley) May 3, 2022

Biden administration has nothing to say about the leak itself. Not surprising,

packofwolves said:

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Biden administration has nothing to say about the leak itself. Not surprising,

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They don't care! Anybody that has studied the Constitution will tell you this ruling, if it goes through, is spot on!

Steve Videtich said:

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This is going to be a continued effort from the left to create PR grenades towards the right, for the next 5-6 months. They have nothing to promote from their governance over the last 18 months. So, the only chance they have is to create a tsunami of bad PR towards the right to try and save their sorry asses. It's only going to get worse.

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What until they start broadcasting the January 6th sham hearings on the MSM 8-10 hours a day during the summer!! All the grandstanding, lies and false narratives they are going to push are going to negate any bump in voters.

Give the left power, like I said before I was banned for calling out the hypocrites on the left, and they will abuse it to the point where they turn off the independent voters.