hokiewolf said:

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Tariffs are stupid no matter which party imposes them. It just makes stuff more expensive, and it takes away workforce from other industries that are in the US.

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I'm not clear on exactly what is driving a normally China-malleable administration to take this action.

BBW12OG said:

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I've been in the construction industry for over 26 years.

This is not a good thing.

It is nothing but a ploy for political points and both parties do it.

I will break it down as it affects the construction industry. We deal with this crap every second of the day.

The United States can put tariffs on imports that originate and land in the United States.

Example: Canada imports raw steel materials from China. Bar steel, plate steel. Those raw materials are shipped to manufacturers to create a "finished" product. Grader blades, snow plow blades, bull dozer edges, ends etc..... Canadian law does not require the "Made in China", "Product of China" stamps.

The United States does. Country of origin regardless of point of completion is required. Especially with China.

This puts the United States at a huge disadvantage trade wise and globally when every other developed country is beholden to China more than we are.

Cost of construction is ridiculous. Now, we are going to have to compete with Canadian suppliers, manufacturers of steel and aluminum. United States workers in foundries and blade/edge manufacturers are going lose a lot of business and employees.

I'll remind everyone that I said BOTH parties do it. And worst part of this is that they can't be honest with the American people on a broad scale about how much we are dependent upon China.

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Great post BBW. Seriously man. It would be incredible if all discourse on here was exactly like this.

BBW12OG said:

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I've been in the construction industry for over 26 years.

This is not a good thing.

It is nothing but a ploy for political points and both parties do it.

I will break it down as it affects the construction industry. We deal with this crap every second of the day.

The United States can put tariffs on imports that originate and land in the United States.

Example: Canada imports raw steel materials from China. Bar steel, plate steel. Those raw materials are shipped to manufacturers to create a "finished" product. Grader blades, snow plow blades, bull dozer edges, ends etc..... Canadian law does not require the "Made in China", "Product of China" stamps.

The United States does. Country of origin regardless of point of completion is required. Especially with China.

This puts the United States at a huge disadvantage trade wise and globally when every other developed country is beholden to China more than we are.

Cost of construction is ridiculous. Now, we are going to have to compete with Canadian suppliers, manufacturers of steel and aluminum. United States workers in foundries and blade/edge manufacturers are going lose a lot of business and employees.

I'll remind everyone that I said BOTH parties do it. And worst part of this is that they can't be honest with the American people on a broad scale about how much we are dependent upon China.

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So, how do we fix the problem?

caryking said:

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BBW12OG said:

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I've been in the construction industry for over 26 years.

This is not a good thing.

It is nothing but a ploy for political points and both parties do it.

I will break it down as it affects the construction industry. We deal with this crap every second of the day.

The United States can put tariffs on imports that originate and land in the United States.

Example: Canada imports raw steel materials from China. Bar steel, plate steel. Those raw materials are shipped to manufacturers to create a "finished" product. Grader blades, snow plow blades, bull dozer edges, ends etc..... Canadian law does not require the "Made in China", "Product of China" stamps.

The United States does. Country of origin regardless of point of completion is required. Especially with China.

This puts the United States at a huge disadvantage trade wise and globally when every other developed country is beholden to China more than we are.

Cost of construction is ridiculous. Now, we are going to have to compete with Canadian suppliers, manufacturers of steel and aluminum. United States workers in foundries and blade/edge manufacturers are going lose a lot of business and employees.

I'll remind everyone that I said BOTH parties do it. And worst part of this is that they can't be honest with the American people on a broad scale about how much we are dependent upon China.

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So, how do we fix the problem?

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Exactly.

That is the question. The answer is there is NO WAY to fix the problem.

China has been building for this for over 100 years. They have the world in the palm of their hands.

Imagine them cutting off ALL exports out of their country unless the world bowed to them. Not saying they would, but if they did..... don't think the results would be good.

The situation is only going to get worse. If the move toward mining rare earth metals continues and the entire world other than China has environmental policies in place they are only going to get more powerful.

It is not a "conspiracy theory" it is a fact.

I live it every single day. My company purchases virgin tungsten carbide from China. No additives, recycled or mixes. Pure tungsten carbide. I've seen pictures of the extraction plant. Looks like a bad science fiction D movie from the 80's but its not. It is the real conditions.

That is what the world has come to. Paying people for stuff as long as it doesn't hurt ourselves. Again.. we are beholden to China and will always be.

Seth RIch was murdered by the so-called Deep State.

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— Karla (@bidenisguilty) January 12, 2024

Bidenomics, why so many young people and families are hurting.

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Tariffs DO WORK!!! For unions and when Bush W -Obama and Trump raised tariffs unions follow within less than a month with price increases! CarryKing did you know that Bush put a 30% tariff on steel and in less than two weeks the steel union prices went up 25%!!! So tariffs don't work because of unions and their GREED but that they do support the DEMOCRATS!!

PackProwl63 said:

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Tariffs DO WORK!!! For unions and when Bush W -Obama and Trump raised tariffs unions follow within less than a month with price increases! CarryKing did you know that Bush put a 30% tariff on steel and in less than two weeks the steel union prices went up 25%!!! So tariffs don't work because of unions and their GREED but that they do support the DEMOCRATS!!

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You can only fix one thing at a time…. End of the day, the manufacturing was in the States, which I like.

Just an FYI.. it's caryking, with one "r"…

wolfbreath said:

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Did they take this down? I can't find it on her X feed.

Helping #DaSieve and #Nappy out with this one..

Dude doesn’t even blink…
Dude doesn’t even sound like him..
Dudes eyes are totally off

Honestly… is it even him Anymore? pic.twitter.com/f4fnXEBHAc

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oops, my finger slipped....meant to poat on "other news"....ee Morgan Freeman.

The real Biden is no longer with us.

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wolfbreath said:

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Biden suggests he was vice president during COVID-19 pandemic: 'Barack said to me, go to Detroit'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-suggests-vice-president-during-152513135.html

President Biden appeared to claim he was vice president during the coronavirus pandemic and that former President Barack Obama had dispatched him to Detroit to help with the response.
In comments first reported by the New York Post, Biden addressed an NAACP campaign event in Michigan Sunday night, where he repeatedly railed against his presumptive Republican opponent, former President Trump, while offering an aside about the contagion which began in 2019 while the latter was in office.
"When I was vice president, things were kind of bad during the pandemic," Biden said near the beginning of his remarks.
"And, what happened was Barack said to me: 'Go to Detroit help fix it.'"

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But he's just old, no dementia at all!!!

Man DROPS Truth Bombs🔥🔥🔥pic.twitter.com/i9vGpiMs9H

— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) May 20, 2024

Hey! That would explain why Trump tried to get Mike Pence hung by a mob!

wolfbreath said:

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Biden suggests he was vice president during COVID-19 pandemic: 'Barack said to me, go to Detroit'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-suggests-vice-president-during-152513135.html

President Biden appeared to claim he was vice president during the coronavirus pandemic and that former President Barack Obama had dispatched him to Detroit to help with the response.
In comments first reported by the New York Post, Biden addressed an NAACP campaign event in Michigan Sunday night, where he repeatedly railed against his presumptive Republican opponent, former President Trump, while offering an aside about the contagion which began in 2019 while the latter was in office.
"When I was vice president, things were kind of bad during the pandemic," Biden said near the beginning of his remarks.
"And, what happened was Barack said to me: 'Go to Detroit help fix it.'"

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I think you don't understand the dynamics at play. Of course Obama is President. This is his 3rd term. He just has to have Biden running point and why Kamala has nothing to do since you can't have 2 VPs.

hokiewolf said:

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Hey! That would explain why Trump tried to get Mike Pence hung by a mob!

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I say Hang the *******. In fact, Hang others right next to him...