hokiewolf said:
SmaptyWolf said:
hokiewolf said:
SmaptyWolf said:
hokiewolf said:
SmaptyWolf said:
hokiewolf said:
Here's a real problem
Funny, large industrial consumers have been lobbying Biden hard for this LNG freeze. They're concerned about the pricing of their domestic feedstock, and want the freeze to assess.
Combine that with people who are actually concerned about climate change and Biden calls this a win/win.
I guess the "America First" crowd is selective in their isolationism if Biden's the one doing it. Or maybe they just care about multinational oil company profits more than American manufacturing profits?
How is using LNG a climate change thing?
Because it turns out that LNG infrastructure leaks a lot of methane. So even though it's better than coal, ultimately we probably need a lot less LNG, too, unless you're excited about your kids enjoying 110 degree days at your lake house and inhaling wildfire smoke for 6 months out of every year.
I would agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that the US actually produces a very low amount of climate changing energy usage stuff.
Solar panels and windmills also have an effect on climate change and until the NIMBYS realize that technology has greatly improved the nuclear industry, we're stuck with LNG as the cleanest energy solution.
You going to the highest order of catastrophe to try and prove your point actually does the opposite
I definitely don't have the energy for a climate change debate, but what I mentioned wasn't even the highest order of catastrophe. Recently updated models have accelerated the "worst case scenarios", but regardless we're pretty much guaranteed a significantly warmer and more volatile future now no matter what we do... the only question now is how much.
Ah well, here's hoping we get carbon capture figured out.
the problem with your statement is that the US could shut off every power plant and stop running all cars, trains, trucks, airplanes and it wouldn't make a dent. The US isnt the issue, never has been.
Yes, it's called "global warming", not "U.S. warming". Currently we produce about 14% of global emissions, China produces around 30%. So no, no one ever suggested that we can fix the problem by ourselves.
There's only ever been one solution to the problem, American
leadership. Innovating better energy options for the planet and leaning on them to do the right thing. Instead global warming, like the pandemic and other seemingly non-controversial problems, was turned into another culture war issue for conservatives to rally around.
Honestly, as long as our economy has enough energy to function, does it really matter where it's coming from? Why are some people so emotionally invested in us not transitioning to energy alternatives that help us cook the planet less?
