The Biden Administration..V3

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wolfman18
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Idk...I'm team let's not provoke another cold war, but I might be crazy. Biden might get it done though
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hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.
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Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
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packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.
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hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.
Orange Man and Kid Sniffer were both wrong. The sanctions were wrong, and now bombing the pipeline is far far worse (causing environmental damage, etc).

Russia is not our enemy. This is all an Establishment war-mongering agenda.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
packofwolves
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hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.


No, the sanctions would not stop the building of the pipeline. Some thoughts were the sanctions may have been able to slow down the process (debatable).

Regarding Trump, your statement was "I told you so" is not foreign policy, but he did try something and at least sent a clear message in doing so. And yes, Trump was right.
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packofwolves said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.


No, the sanctions would not stop the building of the pipeline. Some thoughts were the sanctions may have been able to slow down the process (debatable).

Regarding Trump, your statement was "I told you so" is not foreign policy, but he did try something and at least sent a clear message in doing so. And yes, Trump was right.
what's the point of Trump being right after the fact when his policy failed?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2019/12/21/trump-imposes-sanctions-to-stop-nord-stream-2--but-its-too-late/amp/

"Donald Trump last night signed into law sanctions from the U.S. Congress against companies involved in constructing a new gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. But analysts say the Trump administration dithered too long for these sanctions to stop the project's completion."
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hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.


No, the sanctions would not stop the building of the pipeline. Some thoughts were the sanctions may have been able to slow down the process (debatable).

Regarding Trump, your statement was "I told you so" is not foreign policy, but he did try something and at least sent a clear message in doing so. And yes, Trump was right.
what's the point of Trump being right after the fact when his policy failed?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2019/12/21/trump-imposes-sanctions-to-stop-nord-stream-2--but-its-too-late/amp/

"Donald Trump last night signed into law sanctions from the U.S. Congress against companies involved in constructing a new gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. But analysts say the Trump administration dithered too long for these sanctions to stop the project's completion."
Name the analysts….
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Redwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.


No, the sanctions would not stop the building of the pipeline. Some thoughts were the sanctions may have been able to slow down the process (debatable).

Regarding Trump, your statement was "I told you so" is not foreign policy, but he did try something and at least sent a clear message in doing so. And yes, Trump was right.
what's the point of Trump being right after the fact when his policy failed?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2019/12/21/trump-imposes-sanctions-to-stop-nord-stream-2--but-its-too-late/amp/

"Donald Trump last night signed into law sanctions from the U.S. Congress against companies involved in constructing a new gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. But analysts say the Trump administration dithered too long for these sanctions to stop the project's completion."
Name the analysts….
Go email Dave Keating, he wrote the article, not me
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Civilized
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GuerrillaPack said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.
Orange Man and Kid Sniffer were both wrong. The sanctions were wrong, and now bombing the pipeline is far far worse (causing environmental damage, etc).

Russia is not our enemy. This is all an Establishment war-mongering agenda.

Putin is an anti-Democratic likely war criminal that imprisons his political opponents; is consistently adversarial with the West; and just chose to invade a sovereign democratic nation.

You say they're not our enemy. OK. But we can't ally ourselves with a nation whose leader behaves the way that he does either.

So what would you call them?
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packofwolves
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hokiewolf said:

Redwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.


No, the sanctions would not stop the building of the pipeline. Some thoughts were the sanctions may have been able to slow down the process (debatable).

Regarding Trump, your statement was "I told you so" is not foreign policy, but he did try something and at least sent a clear message in doing so. And yes, Trump was right.
what's the point of Trump being right after the fact when his policy failed?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2019/12/21/trump-imposes-sanctions-to-stop-nord-stream-2--but-its-too-late/amp/

"Donald Trump last night signed into law sanctions from the U.S. Congress against companies involved in constructing a new gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. But analysts say the Trump administration dithered too long for these sanctions to stop the project's completion."
Name the analysts….
Go email Dave Keating, he wrote the article, not me


So we should take the word of some unknown "analysts". Excuse some of us from being skeptical based on other Trump related bs.

What we do know is the sanctions were initiated in Dec 2019 and Allseas stopped construction on the pipeline due to the sanctions. Then Russia resumed the construction in Dec 2020 and completed the pipeline in Sept 2021. Biden removed the sanctions in May 2021.

Sanctions did cause a stop for 1 year. There was no preventing Russia from continuing.
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Civilized said:

GuerrillaPack said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.
Orange Man and Kid Sniffer were both wrong. The sanctions were wrong, and now bombing the pipeline is far far worse (causing environmental damage, etc).

Russia is not our enemy. This is all an Establishment war-mongering agenda.

Putin is an anti-Democratic likely war criminal that imprisons his political opponents; is consistently adversarial with the West; and just chose to invade a sovereign democratic nation.

You say they're not our enemy. OK. But we can't ally ourselves with a nation whose leader behaves the way that he does either.

So what would you call them?



Putin sounds like a democrat. How long have y'all been trying to jail Trump?
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Off topic a bit but there are renewed rumblings of a reveal of truth related to HRC's Benghazi sale of stinger weapons and subsequent use to bring down the Seal Team 6 chopper. Also, in that web of treason is the Bin Laden, CIA and Iran connection and the trophy kill of Bin Laden or his double set up on Pakistan just prior to Obama's re- election in 2012. Actually, this is a new video......same guy. Old video appeared to be from somewhere in the Middle East.

VIdeo clip that circulated a few years ago

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packofwolves said:

hokiewolf said:

Redwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.


No, the sanctions would not stop the building of the pipeline. Some thoughts were the sanctions may have been able to slow down the process (debatable).

Regarding Trump, your statement was "I told you so" is not foreign policy, but he did try something and at least sent a clear message in doing so. And yes, Trump was right.
what's the point of Trump being right after the fact when his policy failed?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2019/12/21/trump-imposes-sanctions-to-stop-nord-stream-2--but-its-too-late/amp/

"Donald Trump last night signed into law sanctions from the U.S. Congress against companies involved in constructing a new gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. But analysts say the Trump administration dithered too long for these sanctions to stop the project's completion."
Name the analysts….
Go email Dave Keating, he wrote the article, not me


So we should take the word of some unknown "analysts". Excuse some of us from being skeptical based on other Trump related bs.

What we do know is the sanctions were initiated in Dec 2019 and Allseas stopped construction on the pipeline due to the sanctions. Then Russia resumed the construction in Dec 2020 and completed the pipeline in Sept 2021. Biden removed the sanctions in May 2021.

Sanctions did cause a stop for 1 year. There was no preventing Russia from continuing.
Again, a policy failure because the sanctions were put on too late and they were not heavy enough.

I posted an article from Forbes, a pretty reliable source. I'm not sure why you guys choose to pick out things that don't matter just to make noise.
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hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

hokiewolf said:

Redwolf said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.


No, the sanctions would not stop the building of the pipeline. Some thoughts were the sanctions may have been able to slow down the process (debatable).

Regarding Trump, your statement was "I told you so" is not foreign policy, but he did try something and at least sent a clear message in doing so. And yes, Trump was right.
what's the point of Trump being right after the fact when his policy failed?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2019/12/21/trump-imposes-sanctions-to-stop-nord-stream-2--but-its-too-late/amp/

"Donald Trump last night signed into law sanctions from the U.S. Congress against companies involved in constructing a new gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. But analysts say the Trump administration dithered too long for these sanctions to stop the project's completion."
Name the analysts….
Go email Dave Keating, he wrote the article, not me


So we should take the word of some unknown "analysts". Excuse some of us from being skeptical based on other Trump related bs.

What we do know is the sanctions were initiated in Dec 2019 and Allseas stopped construction on the pipeline due to the sanctions. Then Russia resumed the construction in Dec 2020 and completed the pipeline in Sept 2021. Biden removed the sanctions in May 2021.

Sanctions did cause a stop for 1 year. There was no preventing Russia from continuing.
Again, a policy failure because the sanctions were put on too late and they were not heavy enough.

I posted an article from Forbes, a pretty reliable source. I'm not sure why you guys choose to pick out things that don't matter just to make noise.


What would have happened if Biden didn't remove the sanctions?

Personally, I don't think the US could permanently stop the pipeline, but could buy time for a change in strategy (if Germany/others were willing). Its taken the Russian invasion of Ukraine for Germany/others to rethink their energy dependence on Russia. And of course now, the pipelines have been sabotaged.
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packofwolves said:

hokiewolf said:

packofwolves said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

This administration is doing a bang-up job…



not sure I'm going to pin a missed target on the Biden Administration
How about this?


Well we don't know for sure if the US set bombs on the Nordstream pipeline. We will probably never know the real truth there and honestly that was a good move by Biden if we did do it.
I'm curious why this would be a good thing? And I'm not being a smart a$$ I promise


Europe relying almost solely on Russian gas would give Russia a lot of money and bargaining power over those countries.

It also got Germany back in line with US policy


I'm so old I remember we had a past President over telling Germany the same thing a few years ago. He was right…again.
Did he do anything about it though? Sanctions didn't deter from the 2nd pipeline getting built.


What should he have done, invade Germany and make them buy energy from us? Point being sir, he was right. Germany balked, the left cried and called him a bully and here we are today.
I just think "I told you so" isn't a clear foreign policy.


Come on man….just say Trump was right.


And let's not forget it was Biden who removed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, giving the green light.
The sanctions didn't do anything. They kept building the pipeline through the sanctions.


No, the sanctions would not stop the building of the pipeline. Some thoughts were the sanctions may have been able to slow down the process (debatable).

Regarding Trump, your statement was "I told you so" is not foreign policy, but he did try something and at least sent a clear message in doing so. And yes, Trump was right.


Yessiree
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We are effed. Thank you "independents".
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Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:




We are effed. Thank you "independents".
We are and continue to build our army - the people's army. We will win.
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Klaus Schwab predicting 'black swann events'.....

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Hey Kim, Hoke & Sieve.............I'm drinking this news up with a straw............ :-)
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This is what I've been talking about on here for years. One of the key tactics and main modus operandi of the communist Left and Democrats is censorship of their ideological opposition.

All their talk about the Republicans and right-wing being "fascists" is pure projection and hypocrisy. They know that they (the Left/Democrats) are the true fascists and totalitarians.

They do not believe in freedom of speech. They want to silence those on the right in any way they can -- preventing conservatives from speaking on college campuses, lobbying and using Big Tech to ban and silence them, and eventually passing "hate speech" laws (as done in Europe, etc) to criminalize right-wing views/speech.

https://instagr.am/p/Co2f2tKOq4K
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/russian-diplomats-ordered-netherlands-97310798
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Yeah,thank you independents!!Need you again in 2024 might be criminal on the loose trying to get back in the oval office!! Protect that house!!
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Yep!!And ConMan was the perfect gentleman!! Making perfect calls! Lol, get real!!
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Boy,how soon we forget! Wasn't ConMan Don on a platform with his boy Vladimir defending him while he was the criminal in chief? Refresh my memory, i am not as smart as most on here!
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I agree on your last sentence. U r a trip. That's my one and last exchange with ya friend.
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I bet some of you MAGA maniac thought about suicide when ConMan Don got fired huh? If not you sure do act like it! Never seen a man have such a hold on people like he does and he CARES about no one! Peace! Oh yeah, english teachers proof read and give me my grade tomorrow, thank you! LOL!!
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Marco said:

I bet some of you MAGA maniac thought about suicide when ConMan Don got fired huh? If not you sure do act like it! Never seen a man have such a hold on people like he does and he CARES about no one! Peace! Oh yeah, english teachers proof read and give me my grade tomorrow, thank you! LOL!!
B+ much improved lol
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Marco said:

i am not as smart as most on here!


No *****
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Boy, I am an idiot!!!!
That, we agree with you!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

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