Not a liberal - unaffiliated - but my response is that he's done good work in brokering the UAE - Israel discussions and recently it seems like some positive news coming from Serbia - Kosovo talks as well82TxPackFan said:
Can't wait to see response from liberals on this.
lumberpack5 said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Tybring-Gjedde
Nominated by a Norwegian Nazi. Impressive.
lol....there you go quoting Joe Biden again!packgrad said:lumberpack5 said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Tybring-Gjedde
Nominated by a Norwegian Nazi. Impressive.
At least this nomination has merit. It wasn't because he's half black and speaks well.
lumberpack5 said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Tybring-Gjedde
Nominated by a Norwegian Nazi. Impressive.
GoPack2008 said:
^you read that Wikipedia entry and concluded that he's center-right?
Huh?
His quite explicitly and openly an ethno-nationalist. I don't know if that makes him a Nazi or not, but that's definitely not a center-right position.
griff17matt said:GoPack2008 said:
^you read that Wikipedia entry and concluded that he's center-right?
Huh?
His quite explicitly and openly an ethno-nationalist. I don't know if that makes him a Nazi or not, but that's definitely not a center-right position.
It says he's center-right, his party is center-right, and the only thing you could vaguely pin "nazi" on is his immigration policy. Bigoted? Maybe. Ethnically cleanse them from the earth? Hardly. Really makes the term Nazi mean nothing when the left makes it a habit to call any right-wing policy stance equivalent to a regime that attempted to exterminate an entire race of people. It's absurd just like it would be to call every left-wing policy Stalinist or Maoist.
GoPack2008 said:griff17matt said:GoPack2008 said:
^you read that Wikipedia entry and concluded that he's center-right?
Huh?
His quite explicitly and openly an ethno-nationalist. I don't know if that makes him a Nazi or not, but that's definitely not a center-right position.
It says he's center-right, his party is center-right, and the only thing you could vaguely pin "nazi" on is his immigration policy. Bigoted? Maybe. Ethnically cleanse them from the earth? Hardly. Really makes the term Nazi mean nothing when the left makes it a habit to call any right-wing policy stance equivalent to a regime that attempted to exterminate an entire race of people. It's absurd just like it would be to call every left-wing policy Stalinist or Maoist.
It says he's widely considered to be far right. His party was part of a center right COALITION, but they are very much considered right wing.
I get your point about the term Nazi but this dude ain't center-right.
Its unfortunately been this way for the last few years. Since Trump was elected we have gone down the hole of everyone i don't like is a nazi. Unfortunately calling someone a nazi doesn't carry the same meaning for me as it used to because now if you disagree with the far left at all your a nazi. Just like calling someone racist or sexist. It just doesn't carry the weight that it used to because the terms are thrown around constantlygriff17matt said:GoPack2008 said:griff17matt said:GoPack2008 said:
^you read that Wikipedia entry and concluded that he's center-right?
Huh?
His quite explicitly and openly an ethno-nationalist. I don't know if that makes him a Nazi or not, but that's definitely not a center-right position.
It says he's center-right, his party is center-right, and the only thing you could vaguely pin "nazi" on is his immigration policy. Bigoted? Maybe. Ethnically cleanse them from the earth? Hardly. Really makes the term Nazi mean nothing when the left makes it a habit to call any right-wing policy stance equivalent to a regime that attempted to exterminate an entire race of people. It's absurd just like it would be to call every left-wing policy Stalinist or Maoist.
It says he's widely considered to be far right. His party was part of a center right COALITION, but they are very much considered right wing.
I get your point about the term Nazi but this dude ain't center-right.
Right wing = Nazi now? There is a considerable difference in liberals and Stalinists. If the left can't make the same distinction between conservatives and Nazis then consider the nation turmoil the new normal because that is a line in the sand moment you can't walk back.
Yep, the second you say something contrary, "YOU RACIST"packgrad said:
Agreed, but I think it goes back to Obama. If you disagreed with anything he suggested, RACIST!!
Pacfanweb said:Yep, the second you say something contrary, "YOU RACIST"packgrad said:
Agreed, but I think it goes back to Obama. If you disagreed with anything he suggested, RACIST!!
Even the numbers are racist, evidently. Point out how blacks commit a far higher percentage of crime than their percentage of the population and how *maybe* that just MIGHT be part of the problem? That's a racist label.
packgrad said: