Perseverance Landing Thursday

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Civilized
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Sorry man, I knew I shouldn't have. It's just that the questions abound.
GuerrillaPack
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AlleyPack said:

Can we please not glut up this thread -- and simply start a new one instead if you guys want to "debate" round vs. flat?
Thanks



I got no problem with that. I could talk all day just about how fake this "Mars landing" is. For starters, I'd like to know how in the hell the alleged descent parachute would have worked when they tell us that Mars has virtually no atmosphere. Or how you can allegedly fly a helicopter in that? Or how in the hell they have a signal powerful enough to allegedly remote control the rover and the helicopter from freaking 130 million miles away or however far away they claim it is.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
packwest
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GuerrillaPack said:

AlleyPack said:

Can we please not glut up this thread -- and simply start a new one instead if you guys want to "debate" round vs. flat?
Thanks



I got no problem with that. I could talk all day just about how fake this "Mars landing" is. For starters, I'd like to know how in the hell the alleged descent parachute would have worked when they tell us that Mars has virtually no atmosphere. Or how you can allegedly fly a helicopter in that? Or how in the hell they have a signal powerful enough to allegedly remote control the rover and the helicopter from freaking 130 million miles away or however far away they claim it is.


Science.
dogplasma
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You're actually right - parachutes *don't* work well on Mars. That's precisely why they have to use a sky crane with thrusters to slow the descent of the lander. Shortly before the heat shield separated, the lander was traveling at over 200 mph with the parachute completely unfurled. Earlier landers used an airbag system to cushion their landings. There just isn't enough atmosphere for a parachute to work as well as it does on earth.

Once down, the rover is largely autonomous in its movements, maybe similar to a self-driving car in some ways, but it does communicate and receive instructions from earth via the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, which orbits Mars and relays signals between the rover and earth. The rover can't contact earth directly.

The fact that the drone will fly in an atmosphere 1% as dense as sea level on earth *is* amazing. It may not even work, but they tested it in a specially built vacuum chamber on earth and it worked in there, so hopefully it translates. It's pretty light (~ 5 lbs) and has large rotor blades for its size that I'm sure spin very fast. If you want a more detailed explanation you'll need a physics major or an aerospace engineer to weigh in!
dogplasma
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Perseverance captures image of crashed sky crane


https://www.space.com/mars-perseverance-rover-photo-sky-crane-crash
910wolf
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Damnit Civ, why you gotta take the bait so easy? You're like the fish that gets hooked on a hot dog LOL
Civilized
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910wolf said:

Damnit Civ, why you gotta take the bait so easy? You're like the fish that gets hooked on a hot dog LOL


LOLOL It was like a drug brother I was laughing while typing, knowing I shouldn't take the bait but I couldn't stop myself!
dogplasma
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.webp

Not sure if the picture will paste or just a link, but this is like the Curiosity photo above that shows how the Perseverance parts ended up on the surface.
dogplasma
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Rover on the move: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56297996



In the upper left of the bottom photo, it sort of looks like the rover hit a squirrel.
Glasswolf
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Payton Wilson on what he thought of Carter Finley: Drunk Crazy Crowded

dogplasma
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Listen to Perseverance fire lasers at Mars


https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56354383
dogplasma
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Mars helicopter looking to fly in early April!

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56505031

Helicopter protective cover is dropped:


dogplasma
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Mars helicopter is sitting on the surface and undergoing assessment of battery charging capabilities. Then at some point before flight they'll do a full speed rotor spin without taking off. First flight is currently targeted for April 11. The last pic below is to show some scale so you can gauge the size of the machine.



dogplasma
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BTTT for space geeks. The Mars helicopter (Ingenuity) is planned to perform its first flight at 3:30 AM EST tomorrow (Monday) morning. If it happens, NASA will stream coverage starting at 6:15 AM on the NASA channel.

FYI, Ingenuity is said to have cost $85 million. That's more than some military attack helicopters.
Wolfer79
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dogplasma
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So cool! Proof of first flight on another planet! Ten feet up and ten feet down.

I guess technically the sky crane was the first thing to fly on another planet, but who wants to kill the buzz.
dogplasma
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This is a much better video of the flight. It looks like an actual video. Click and scroll down.


https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasas-ingenuity-mars-helicopter-succeeds-in-historic-first-flight?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nasajpl&utm_content=daily20210419-2
dogplasma
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It's turning into an intergalactic used car lot on Mars as Red China lands a rover on the Red Planet

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-57122914


dogplasma
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First Perseverance sample attempt comes up short. Some engineers have some root cause troubleshooting to do:

https://www.space.com/perseverance-rover-mars-sample-attempt-fails

In other cool space news, SpaceX stacks their Starship rocket on a Heavy4 booster in prep for an orbital flight later this year:


Anyone know why Starship is black? Answer (after searching): It's the thermal protective shielding tiles, similar to the space shuttle.
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