"Nobody is coming for your guns"

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GuerrillaPack
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Do you think any conservative has ever been tricked by this? Not at all. It's blatantly obvious that the Democrats are the party of gun bans and gun confiscation.

Beto: "Hell yes, we are going to take your AR-15."



Just as the Democrats are now uncloaking as socialists/communists, they are now admitting their totalitarian agendas as opponents of gun rights and freedom of speech.
PackDaddy
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They can have some bullets while they're at it.
GuerrillaPack
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PackDaddy said:

They can have some bullets while they're at it.


But, but...it's "for the children". It's because Beto and the communist Democrats "love the children so much". That's why they so passionately and fanatically support the mass murder of almost one million unborn children each year -- abortion. Nothing demonstrates your "love for the children" like cheerleading the "right" of a woman to have a butcher chop up her 8 and a half month old baby inside her womb, and then vacuum out the body parts.

So just turn in your guns. It's not because the Democrats are totalitarian communists, and it supports their Marxist agenda to enslave the masses to an all-powerful State. No. It's because they "care for the children".
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GuerrillaPack said:

Do you think any conservative has ever been tricked by this? Not at all. It's blatantly obvious that the Democrats are the party of gun bans and gun confiscation.

Beto: "Hell yes, we are going to take your AR-15."



Just as the Democrats are now uncloaking as socialists/communists, they are now admitting their totalitarian agendas as opponents of gun rights and freedom of speech.
I hope he gets the ar's and the ak's. At least the high capacity magazines. Improved background checks
GuerrillaPack
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AR-15s and AK-47s were exactly the type of guns that the Second Amendment was intended to protect our right to own and carry. The text of the Second Amendment EXPLICITLY states that the entire purpose of the right of the people to own and carry firearms is so that they form a "civilian army" that can protect the security/freedom of the nation -- meaning that they have the right to "military-grade" weapons.

Don't believe it? Read the Second Amendment.

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


So, let's break down what it is saying. First, a "militia" is a military or army, made up of the citizens of the nation. Next, it is saying that this civilian army is necessary to the security of the nation -- ie, a civilian army protects the freedom and security of the nation from all enemies, foreign or domestic. Therefore, for this reason, the right of the people to own ("keep") and carry ("bear") firearms shall not be infringed.

Now, the phrase "well regulated" in the text does not mean what modern-day leftists would have us believe -- ie, that it supposedly means this militia "restricted" the people's access to the firearms, or that it limits the right to keep and bear arms to militias only. No. The phrase "well regulated", in the parlance of the late 18th century, essentially means "well equipped and well trained" or "kept in proper working order".

So, to put in modern vernacular, what the text of the Second Amendment is saying is the following: "A well equipped and properly functioning civilian army is necessary for the security of a free nation. Therefore, the right of the people to own and carry firearms shall not be infringed."
ncsupack1
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We all know what the Dems end plan is, but imo they messed up showing their hand....could end up costing them...jmo
GuerrillaPack
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And what is this blathering moron Beto's so-called "logic" for saying that we should ban AR-15s and AK-47s? The fact that they were designed to kill people? Well guess what idiot...almost EVERY gun was designed to kill people. If that is the criteria for being able to ban guns, then I guess we need to fully repeal the Second Amendment, and ban all guns. Of course, that IS the plan of the communist Democrats.

The Second Amendment is not about hunting deer and ducks. As I pointed out in my previous post, the purpose of the Second Amendment is so that the people can act as a "citizen's army" -- that protect the nation against all enemies, foreign or domestic...including a potentially tyrannical government.

The real agenda of the communist Left (all over the world) is to ban guns in order to disarm the masses, and make them fully subjugated and defenseless against an all-powerful State/Government. This is what leftist political movements have done all through history over the last hundred years or so. Socialist/Leftist governments in almost all European nations and Australia have near fully banned guns -- generally only allowing single-shot rifles and shotguns for hunting, which even then are heavily regulated and require special licensing, making the guns very difficult to obtain.

Some of the first acts of the Communist/leftist governments in the Soviet Union and China were to ban private firearm ownership, and disarm their populations. And then they were able to perpetrate the genocide of tens of millions of "dissidents", who were defenseless. And the people (at the highest levels of leadership) who run Leftist movements in the United States share these same goals. They are Marxists, who have malevolent intent for the masses.

And, again...if you doubt the communist Left in America could harbor malevolent intent for the masses, and even perpetrate the genocide of millions of people...you need look no further than the issue of ABORTION. They are already doing it.

PackBacker07
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Beto stirring up the conspiracy machine, hilarious. I hope he keeps it up. Hell, we even got an abortion mention here in a guns thread. Keep throwing the bait out Beto!
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GuerrillaPack
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PackBacker07 said:

Beto stirring up the conspiracy machine, hilarious. I hope he keeps it up. Hell, we even got an abortion mention here in a guns thread. Keep throwing the bait out Beto!


Marxism/Communism is a very REAL conspiracy. Not a "theory". There is a clear conspiracy by the Democrats/Left to attack the Second Amenment and erode/destroy gun rights.
Glasswolf
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You nut job conspiracy theorist have been saying this for 30+ years. No one is going to take you guns! Just like no one is going to overturn roe v wade.

I'm a Democrat and I don't want your guns. I don't want you to have a magazine that holds 50-100 rounds.

You break into my house one shot from my glock or one from my 12 gauge you will be just as dead and there will be less damage to my house.
GuerrillaPack
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Glasswolf said:

You nut job conspiracy theorist have been saying this for 30+ years. No one is going to take you guns! Just like no one is going to overturn roe v wade.

I'm a Democrat and I don't want your guns. I don't want you to have a magazine that holds 50-100 rounds.

You break into my house one shot from my glock or one from my 12 gauge you will be just as dead and there will be less damage to my house.

So..."no one is going to take my guns"....while powerful Democrats like Beto openly say that they DO want to take my guns?

The Democrats are ALREADY taking peoples' guns, and have been for the last 30+ years.

In virtually every communist DemonRat-controlled major city in America, they ban handguns. In many communist DemonRat-run states, they have recently banned "assault" rifles. A major part of the Democrat platform is banning whole classes of firearms, and taking peoples guns.

I'm a "nut job" because I can see that there IS a REAL conspiracy to attempt to take my guns? I'm "crazy" because I recognize self-evident facts and realities?

Or...am I called a "nut job" because I just so happen to disagree with certain "Establishment" or Left-wing views?

I think I'm starting to get it...we are called "crazy conspiracy theorists" because we speak the TRUTH and point out FACTS, and speak out against REAL conspiracies, or hold "verboten" views that the Leftist Establishment does not like and wishes to suppress and silence.
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GuerrillaPack said:

Glasswolf said:

You nut job conspiracy theorist have been saying this for 30+ years. No one is going to take you guns! Just like no one is going to overturn roe v wade.

I'm a Democrat and I don't want your guns. I don't want you to have a magazine that holds 50-100 rounds.

You break into my house one shot from my glock or one from my 12 gauge you will be just as dead and there will be less damage to my house.

So..."no one is going to take my guns"....while powerful Democrats like Beto openly say that they DO want to take my guns?

In virtually every communist DemonRat-controlled major city in America, they ban handguns. In many communist DemonRat-run states, they have recently banned "assault" rifles. A major part of the Democrat platform is banning whole classes of firearms, and taking peoples guns.

I'm a "nut job" because I can see that there IS a REAL conspiracy to attempt to take my guns? I'm "crazy" because I recognize self-evident facts and realities?

Or...am I called a "nut job" because I just so happen to disagree with certain "Establishment" or Left-wing views?

I think I'm starting to get it...we are called "crazy conspiracy theorists" because we speak the TRUTH and point out FACTS, and speak out against REAL conspiracies, or hold "verboten" views that the Leftist Establishment does not like and wishes to suppress and silence.


This. The Dems aren't even trying to hind it anymore.
Civilized
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GuerrillaPack said:

Glasswolf said:

You nut job conspiracy theorist have been saying this for 30+ years. No one is going to take you guns! Just like no one is going to overturn roe v wade.

I'm a Democrat and I don't want your guns. I don't want you to have a magazine that holds 50-100 rounds.

You break into my house one shot from my glock or one from my 12 gauge you will be just as dead and there will be less damage to my house.

So..."no one is going to take my guns"....while powerful Democrats like Beto openly say that they DO want to take my guns?

The Democrats are ALREADY taking peoples' guns, and have been for the last 30+ years.

In virtually every communist DemonRat-controlled major city in America, they ban handguns. In many communist DemonRat-run states, they have recently banned "assault" rifles. A major part of the Democrat platform is banning whole classes of firearms, and taking peoples guns.

I'm a "nut job" because I can see that there IS a REAL conspiracy to attempt to take my guns? I'm "crazy" because I recognize self-evident facts and realities?

Or...am I called a "nut job" because I just so happen to disagree with certain "Establishment" or Left-wing views?

I think I'm starting to get it...we are called "crazy conspiracy theorists" because we speak the TRUTH and point out FACTS, and speak out against REAL conspiracies, or hold "verboten" views that the Leftist Establishment does not like and wishes to suppress and silence.

Question:

Do you think America has too many guns, just about the right number of guns, or too few guns in the hands of private citizens?
GuerrillaPack
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Cory Booker also openly admits he wants "mandatory" confiscation of "assault" weapons:

PackFansXL
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PackBacker07 said:

Beto stirring up the conspiracy machine, hilarious. I hope he keeps it up. Hell, we even got an abortion mention here in a guns thread. Keep throwing the bait out Beto!
You have a strange sense of humor.
PackBacker07
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PackFansXL said:

PackBacker07 said:

Beto stirring up the conspiracy machine, hilarious. I hope he keeps it up. Hell, we even got an abortion mention here in a guns thread. Keep throwing the bait out Beto!
You have a strange sense of humor.


I do find it funny that usual suspects rush to the board to post something from a fringe candidate, yes. And it morphs into all the uber-conservative talking points. I'm surprised we didn't get an open borders in here as well for the trifecta. "Powerful Dems like Beto" lol, give me a break. Leftish Establishment! TRUTH! QAnon! 4Chan!
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Those kids lying on the ground dead at schools around the country would be just as dead after getting shot with a shotgun and 9mm with extended clips. 100 people die every day from "gun violence," most of which are handguns. Yet the only time we hear about any of it is when a school is involved 5x/year or when a white guy kills a black guy. A life is a life. I agree that we need significant changes to the background screens and procedures in acquiring guns, but if you think taking away AR-15s is the answer I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed.
GuerrillaPack
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TopsailWolf said:

Those kids lying on the ground dead at schools around the country would be just as dead after getting shot with a shotgun and 9mm with extended clips. 100 people die every day from "gun violence," most of which are handguns. Yet the only time we hear about any of it is when a school is involved 5x/year or when a white guy kills a black guy. A life is a life. I agree that we need significant changes to the background screens and procedures in acquiring guns, but if you think taking away AR-15s is the answer I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed.
Of the ~30,000 deaths using guns each year, around 20,000 of those are suicides. Only around 10,000 are homicides.

But yes, handguns are used in homicides involving firearms at approximately 18 times the rate of all types of rifles.

Here are the stats from the FBI: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

Every year in the United States, there are about 14,000 total homicides, and approximately 6,500 people are murdered using a handgun, while only around 315 are killed with ANY type of rifle. AR-15s and AK-47s are a relatively small subset of types of rifles, so they may be only used in around 50-100 homicides per year.

Compare that (in those same stats) to around 1,600 people murdered every year with knives or other cutting instruments! Even if you had 100 people murdered every year from an AR-15 or AK-47, you still have 15 times more people murdered with knives than an AR-15 or AK-47!

So you have 10,000 people murdered each year from all types of guns. Compare this to other causes of death in the United States. There are currently 70,000 people dying each year from drug overdoses. Also according to the CDC, you have 40,000 people dying each year in car accidents, 36,000 in unintentional falls, and 65,000 in unintentional poisonings.

A big one that almost nobody talks about is that medical errors kill 250,000 people every year!

Averaging these other causes of death, you are about 700-800 times more likely to be killed by a doctor in a medical error, in a car accident, accidental fall, accidental poisoning, or drug overdose...than you are to be killed using an AR-15 or AK-47.

Oh, and there are 650,000 abortions every year in the U.S.

Since the Democrats "love the children so much" and "care about human life so much" (when they aren't cheerleading abortions), why aren't they launching nationwide campaigns to reduce medical error deaths, car accident deaths, or stop drug overdose deaths? Why aren't there calls to ban cars or more heavily regulate doctors?

But in the bizarro fantasy-land clown world created by hype from the Leftist Lamestram media, the world is coming to an end because 50 to 100 people are killed with AR-15s in a year? Because the Leftist Lamestream media endlessly hypes and covers the very rare occasions when an AR-15 is used in a homicide.

Meanwhile, they largely ignore the REAL crises and causes of premature death -- including 70,000 drug overdoses per year and 200,000+ deaths from medical error. Speaking from personal experience, my own father has almost been killed twice by doctor error. And I know many people personally who have been killed in car accidents. I don't personally know anyone who has been murdered using a firearm.
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TopsailWolf said:

Those kids lying on the ground dead at schools around the country would be just as dead after getting shot with a shotgun and 9mm with extended clips. 100 people die every day from "gun violence," most of which are handguns. Yet the only time we hear about any of it is when a school is involved 5x/year or when a white guy kills a black guy. A life is a life. I agree that we need significant changes to the background screens and procedures in acquiring guns, but if you think taking away AR-15s is the answer I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed.
Agree - kids will be dead no matter how they get shot. Inaction on background screens and stringent rules for getting a gun are driving the more hyperbolic claims of taking away AR-15s.
Denverpacker
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Glasswolf said:

You nut job conspiracy theorist have been saying this for 30+ years. No one is going to take you guns! Just like no one is going to overturn roe v wade.

I'm a Democrat and I don't want your guns. I don't want you to have a magazine that holds 50-100 rounds.

You break into my house one shot from my glock or one from my 12 gauge you will be just as dead and there will be less damage to my house.

Not sure what less damage to my house has to do with anything

I would be willing to bet that if by some miracle they passed a buyback for the AR's, that would just be a way to open the door for the next round.
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