Let me summarize and save you 10 minutes. We had a great season, don't want this to take away from that. It's unfortunate but there's nothing we could do about it.

As I suspected. Thanks for saving me ten minutes.

We have a much better chance of Dave Portnoy taking action on State's behalf than Boo Corrigan, that much is for sure.

Boo answered that first question like I expected him to, like a tap dancing f'in clown.

This guy sucks and I don't want him representing my alma mater.

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We have a much better chance of Dave Portnoy taking action on State's behalf than Boo Corrigan, that much is for sure.

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No, we don't. Dave Portnoy can say all the mean words and crap we all want to say and hear but ultimately he can do it b/c he isn't held accountable to anyone at NC State unlike Boo and Randy Woodson. In a month Portnoy will find another team to faux rage for and that'll be that. Just like all the politicians will find the next thing to faux rage about as well and NC State will be in their rear view. On to the next potential voter.

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Thanks for saving me the time. I go with this.

Fire Boo Corrigan.

Well, we know what we have folks.

Insane to think Boo just keeps making this worse. He just repeats the same phrases in every interview. "Medical experts", "heartbroken" "had to accept" "don't let this take away from the season"

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Insane to think Boo just keeps making this worse. He just repeats the same phrases in every interview. "Medical experts", "heartbroken" "had to accept" "don't let this take away from the season"

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It just means he did something wrong and is trying to skirt it. Athletic department should have done more to protect and educate these players before, during, and after.

He's successfully turning a lot of positives and momentum into stadium renovation into a complete dud. Every Wolfpack fan has a sour taste in their mouth against the NCAA and our very own administrators. Can't wrap my head around it.

This is not a defense of Corrigan or how he has handled the past few days. I just have a genuine question as to what people think would have changed if he was more public/more angry or whatever people are wanting for a response?

Jeez guys! Give the man a break! The rules are the rules and nothing is going to change the fact that we had four unvaccinated players test positive, triggering a test of the entire team. Once you hit 8 positives, you hit 'outbreak' stage and game over. It really is that simple.

If you want to be mad at something, be mad that we had any unvaccinated players. Chances are, had the entire team been vaccinated, we may have seen infections, but probably never would have triggered the mass testing and never hit outbreak stage.

It really seems unfair to criticize and vilify someone, making loads of assumptions about what he may have said, known or done, when you weren't in the room. These people are professionals and they know what was at stake. Just because he didn't take to social media and pitch a hissy fit doesn't mean they didn't work like hell behind the scenes to get to a different outcome.

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This is not a defense of Corrigan or how he has handled the past few days. I just have a genuine question as to what people think would have changed if he was more public/more angry or whatever people are wanting for a response?

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He could have confirmed directly that Douglas Co Health Dept did not recommend State be removed from the tournament as NCAA incorrectly stated.
He could have publicly told the NCAA to hold off and made sure there were no false positives.
He could have questioned why most of NC State's team was allowed to fly home on an airplane, but not play in a baseball game outside.
He could have questioned why the NCAA allowed 20,000+ unmasked fans to watch a game, but wouldn't let all State players testing negative to play in the game.
He could have requested support from the public, MLB players and Nebraska politicians.

The NCAA is no different than any politician, they will bend based on a narrative.

NC State's "leadership" did none of those things.

In the last fews years, the NCAA gave in on player compensation, relaxed transfer rules (before covid), caved to states hosting events despite transgender policies. That's just recently - the NCAA is a political animal with no more "values" than any run of the mill politician.

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In the last fews years, the NCAA gave in on player compensation, relaxed transfer rules (before covid), caved to states hosting events despite transgender policies. That's just recently - the NCAA is a political animal with no more "values" than any run of the mill politician.

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All of those are examples where the decisions affected all of the member schools equally. Have they reversed a decision like this that was something that affected only 1 school and would benefit only 1 school due to public pressure?

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Didn't they reverse their decision on Braxton Beverly's eligibility the second he lawyered up?

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WilmingtonPackman777 said:

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In the last fews years, the NCAA gave in on player compensation, relaxed transfer rules (before covid), caved to states hosting events despite transgender policies. That's just recently - the NCAA is a political animal with no more "values" than any run of the mill politician.

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All of those are examples where the decisions affected all of the member schools equally. Have they reversed a decision like this that was something that affected only 1 school and would benefit only 1 school due to public pressure?

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They let an OSU football player play in a bowl game despite accepting money if he promised to come back to school to serve his punishment (which he never did). This was a clear change in policy to benefit one school due to public/corporate/political pressure.

I am not sure what everyone is missing here. The rules were the rules the entire tournament. We got covid. We got kicked out. No matter how you feel about the rules.....they were the rules.....this is all so silly at this point.

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WilmingtonPackman777 said:

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jadawson said:

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WilmingtonPackman777 said:

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In the last fews years, the NCAA gave in on player compensation, relaxed transfer rules (before covid), caved to states hosting events despite transgender policies. That's just recently - the NCAA is a political animal with no more "values" than any run of the mill politician.

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All of those are examples where the decisions affected all of the member schools equally. Have they reversed a decision like this that was something that affected only 1 school and would benefit only 1 school due to public pressure?

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They let an OSU football player play in a bowl game despite accepting money if he promised to come back to school to serve his punishment (which he never did). This was a clear change in policy to benefit one school due to public/corporate/political pressure.

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Not arguing with you, because I think your original list has some good suggestions, that though may not have made any real difference, would have at least felt better and demonstrated that we, as an athletics program, knew the NCAA had crapped on us.

but in those examples of changes you're discussing now -- were any of them resolved in like, 12-24 hours? That is ultimately what we would have needed ,right? Absolutely no way were they going to shut down the CWS. Theoretically, they could have delayed our game and planned to use Sunday and not impacted the CWS.

But would 24 hours have given adequate time?

**We all WANT to say "heck yes", but really?

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My point is we will never know because NC State didn't try. And that's a major problem. State admin should have raised hell to get covid negative players on the field to play a baseball game outside.

If any of our players were signing autographs and mingling with fans or going to casinos as has been stated then we made our bed and we lay in it. If over half your team is unvaccinated then you bubble your team and tell them "we have to just be bubbled to keep us safe from the rules"......period. We obviously did not do that. I agree with everyone that the rules suck. They suck big time. But we knew the rules. And we got burnt.

Every single team had players mingling with fans and doing things off site, vaccinated or not. Mississippi State just put out a release Sunday changing their policy of allowing players to mingle with fans in the hotel lobby. We didn't do anything more or less to protect the players than anyone else did.

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WilmingtonPackman777 said:

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jadawson said:

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WilmingtonPackman777 said:

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In the last fews years, the NCAA gave in on player compensation, relaxed transfer rules (before covid), caved to states hosting events despite transgender policies. That's just recently - the NCAA is a political animal with no more "values" than any run of the mill politician.

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All of those are examples where the decisions affected all of the member schools equally. Have they reversed a decision like this that was something that affected only 1 school and would benefit only 1 school due to public pressure?

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They let an OSU football player play in a bowl game despite accepting money if he promised to come back to school to serve his punishment (which he never did). This was a clear change in policy to benefit one school due to public/corporate/political pressure.

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Not arguing with you, because I think your original list has some good suggestions, that though may not have made any real difference, would have at least felt better and demonstrated that we, as an athletics program, knew the NCAA had crapped on us.

but in those examples of changes you're discussing now -- were any of them resolved in like, 12-24 hours? That is ultimately what we would have needed ,right? Absolutely no way were they going to shut down the CWS. Theoretically, they could have delayed our game and planned to use Sunday and not impacted the CWS.

But would 24 hours have given adequate time?

**We all WANT to say "heck yes", but really?

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My point is we will never know because NC State didn't try. And that's a major problem. State admin should have raised hell to get covid negative players on the field to play a baseball game outside.

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As has been stated several times it can take 4-5 days before you register positive. So once we had positive tests we were done due to contact tracing.....It really is not that hard. I deal with the same thing coaching my HS team. Rules are rules. Control what you can control. You cannot control the rules but you can control what your guys do so that you keep them safe from the rules.

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WilmingtonPackman777 said:

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Packchem91 said:

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WilmingtonPackman777 said:

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jadawson said:

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WilmingtonPackman777 said:

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In the last fews years, the NCAA gave in on player compensation, relaxed transfer rules (before covid), caved to states hosting events despite transgender policies. That's just recently - the NCAA is a political animal with no more "values" than any run of the mill politician.

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All of those are examples where the decisions affected all of the member schools equally. Have they reversed a decision like this that was something that affected only 1 school and would benefit only 1 school due to public pressure?

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They let an OSU football player play in a bowl game despite accepting money if he promised to come back to school to serve his punishment (which he never did). This was a clear change in policy to benefit one school due to public/corporate/political pressure.

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Not arguing with you, because I think your original list has some good suggestions, that though may not have made any real difference, would have at least felt better and demonstrated that we, as an athletics program, knew the NCAA had crapped on us.

but in those examples of changes you're discussing now -- were any of them resolved in like, 12-24 hours? That is ultimately what we would have needed ,right? Absolutely no way were they going to shut down the CWS. Theoretically, they could have delayed our game and planned to use Sunday and not impacted the CWS.

But would 24 hours have given adequate time?

**We all WANT to say "heck yes", but really?

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My point is we will never know because NC State didn't try. And that's a major problem. State admin should have raised hell to get covid negative players on the field to play a baseball game outside.

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As has been stated several times it can take 4-5 days before you register positive. So once we had positive tests we were done due to contact tracing.....It really is not that hard. I deal with the same thing coaching my HS team. Rules are rules. Control what you can control. You cannot control the rules but you can control what your guys do so that you keep them safe from the rules.

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Again, what is the risk here?
You are playing outside with athletic 18-22 year olds. Basically everyone who wants a vaccine in the US has one. The stadium has 20k unmasked fans packed in it. If State guys tested negative, they should have been able to play.